--===============0136652426027816286==
boundary="----=_Part_3727486_1448600916.1689273564113"
------=_Part_3727486_1448600916.1689273564113
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Dave Nock=E2=80=99s upgrades sound much like mine: alloy (Wizard) radiator =
with two large tubes, proper thermostat, pusher fan, high volume water pump=
, plus alloy head (the original 100/4 heads are often shot by now). Never o=
verheats even in 90 deg weather. And the aux pusher fan is a godsend in tra=
ffic.=C2=A0
Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS
On Thursday, July 13, 2023, 12:35 PM, David Nock BCS via Healeys <healeys@a=
utox.team.net> wrote:
#yiv4617816978 P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;}We have been dealing with t=
he British=C2=A0 Car industry for only about 70 years, from an independent =
shop in the 50s and 60s, then a BL dealer in the 70s and 80s. Then back to =
an independent repair shop dealing strictly British Cars the entire time.=
=C2=A0 =C2=A0WE have dealt with running hot and overheating the entire time=
. Up until about 10 years ago we had been installing a special high efficen=
cy radiator core in all our radiators. We would not paint the cores, change=
the necks to a short neck allowing a higher pressure cap, correct thermost=
ats, installed air ducts correctly. All of these things helped. =C2=A0I am =
personnally hesitant to make changes until I have installed in my own perso=
nal car and actually seen a difference. On my BN4 I have a highly upgraded =
motor, a 3000 motor that is bored .060 over, perfomance MSD ignition and mu=
ch more. I was continually having hot running problems here in the central =
valley of California with the summer temps always in the high 90s and upto =
110. =C2=A0I removed one of my upgraded radiators and installed an allumini=
um radiator, with 2 rows of=C2=A0 1=E2=80=9D tubes. The original Healey rad=
iator is a 2 row core with 1/2 tubes, the upgraded core we have been instal=
ling is a 3 row core with 3/8 tubes with a new style fin. This esentially g=
ave us more tube to fin area as well as more fin to air surface.=C2=A0Now w=
ith the newer alloy radiator we gained more tube size, more tube to fin and=
more fin to air contact, This making better cooling.=C2=A0Now for the test=
, I installed the alloy radiator in my car, and immediately the running tem=
perature dropped by about 10 to 20 degrees depending on the day. However I =
still had an issue with slow traffic speeds. It was much better=C2=A0 but I=
wanted to make it better. So I installed a pusher fan on a thermostat set =
at 180 degrees, and now all the heating issues are gone.=C2=A0So maybe if y=
ou compare equal sized radiators with equal fins and tubes, the copper bras=
s radiators are better. But my own personal test in my car proved to me tha=
t the alloy radiator was the cure.=C2=A0
=C2=A0David Nock
British Car Specialists
209-948-8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com=C2=A0From: Leonard Berkowitz via Healeys Sent=
: Thursday, July 13, 2023 6:43 AMTo: healeys@autox.team.net Subject: Re: [H=
ealeys] Heater query=C2=A0I do not have any experience with aluminum radiat=
ors but I have tried oil coolers, "Texas fans", and electric fans. I finall=
y had my original recored with a core that has extra rows. The upper tank i=
s original but the lower is thicker, which made installation a little chall=
enging. The radiator has been in for at least 15-20 years.=C2=A0 I have dri=
ven under almost every condition- very hot ambient temps, high speed (80-90=
MPH) traffic etc. and the engine temps stay where they should be.=C2=A0 Str=
ongly recommend this option, especially since it almost impossible to disti=
nguish my radiator from the stock original and it has worked to perfection.=
=C2=A0 Len BFrom: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of war=
thodson--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 9:49 AM
To: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>; BJ8Healeys <sbyers@ec.=
rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heater query =C2=A0My 100 radiator is in need of som=
e rehabilitation. It either needs to be boiled out, which would not replace=
some of the damaged fins, or re-cored. I am leaning toward re-coring but t=
hat would be more expensive, which leads to the aluminum option.=C2=A0 Besi=
des price what are the pros vs. cons of these options? Does anyone know if =
re-cored 100 radiator is more efficient than an aluminum radiator?Gary H=C2=
=A0On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 09:02:21 PM CDT, BJ8Healeys via Healeys <hea=
leys@autox.team.net> wrote: =C2=A0=C2=A0
I live in the sunny South (90=C2=B0 F and 90% relative humidity today) and =
I used to refer to my BJ8=E2=80=99s heater as the =E2=80=9Cauxiliary engine=
cooler=E2=80=9D; but I no longer have to use=C2=A0 it that way since I had=
a modern core installed in the radiator and added a 190=C2=B0 sleeved ther=
mostat that I bought from Kees.
=C2=A0
Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC=C2=A0 USA
=C2=A0
=C2=A0
_______________________________________________
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archiv=
e/healeys
Healeys@autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
@sbcglobal.net
_______________________________________________
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys http://autox.team.net/archiv=
e/healeys
Healeys@autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
h@aol.com
------=_Part_3727486_1448600916.1689273564113
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<html xmlns=3D"http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"; xmlns:v=3D"urn:schemas-microso=
ft-com:vml" xmlns:o=3D"urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"><head><!--[=
if gte mso 9]><xml><o:OfficeDocumentSettings><o:AllowPNG/><o:PixelsPerInch>=
96</o:PixelsPerInch></o:OfficeDocumentSettings></xml><![endif]--></head><bo=
dy>
Dave Nock=E2=80=99s upgrades sound much like mine: alloy (Wizard) radiator =
with two large tubes, proper thermostat, pusher fan, high volume water pump=
, plus alloy head (the original 100/4 heads are often shot by now). Never o=
verheats even in 90 deg weather. And the aux pusher fan is a godsend in tra=
ffic. <br><br><br><div class=3D"yahoo-signature"><a href=3D"https://ap=
ps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661">Sent from the=
all new AOL app for iOS</a><br></div><br><p class=3D"yahoo-quoted-begin" s=
tyle=3D"font-size: 15px; color: #715FFA; padding-top: 15px; margin-top: 0">=
On Thursday, July 13, 2023, 12:35 PM, David Nock BCS via Healeys <healey=
s@autox.team.net> wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"iosymail"><div id=3D"yi=
v4617816978"><style type=3D"text/css">#yiv4617816978 P {margin-top:0;margin=
-bottom:0;}</style><div dir=3D"ltr">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:'Century';COLOR:#000000;">
<div>We have been dealing with the British Car industry for only abou=
t 70=20
years, from an independent shop in the 50s and 60s, then a BL dealer in the=
70s=20
and 80s. Then back to an independent repair shop dealing strictly British C=
ars=20
the entire time. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>WE have dealt with running hot and overheating the entire time. Up unt=
il=20
about 10 years ago we had been installing a special high efficency radiator=
core=20
in all our radiators. We would not paint the cores, change the necks to a s=
hort=20
neck allowing a higher pressure cap, correct thermostats, installed air duc=
ts=20
correctly. All of these things helped. </div>
<div> </div>
<div>I am personnally hesitant to make changes until I have installed in my=
own=20
personal car and actually seen a difference. On my BN4 I have a highly upgr=
aded=20
motor, a 3000 motor that is bored .060 over, perfomance MSD ignition and mu=
ch=20
more. I was continually having hot running problems here in the central val=
ley=20
of California with the summer temps always in the high 90s and upto 110. </=
div>
<div> </div>
<div>I removed one of my upgraded radiators and installed an alluminium=20
radiator, with 2 rows of 1=E2=80=9D tubes. The original Healey radiat=
or is a 2 row=20
core with 1/2 tubes, the upgraded core we have been installing is a 3 row c=
ore=20
with 3/8 tubes with a new style fin. This esentially gave us more tube to f=
in=20
area as well as more fin to air surface.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Now with the newer alloy radiator we gained more tube size, more tube =
to=20
fin and more fin to air contact, This making better cooling.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>Now for the test, I installed the alloy radiator in my car, and immedi=
ately=20
the running temperature dropped by about 10 to 20 degrees depending on the =
day.=20
However I still had an issue with slow traffic speeds. It was much better&n=
bsp;=20
but I wanted to make it better. So I installed a pusher fan on a thermostat=
set=20
at 180 degrees, and now all the heating issues are gone.</div>
<div> </div>
<div>So maybe if you compare equal sized radiators with equal fins and tube=
s,=20
the copper brass radiators are better. But my own personal test in my car p=
roved=20
to me that the alloy radiator was the cure.</div>
<div> </div>
<div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
<div> </div>
<div>David Nock<br clear=3D"none">British Car=20
Specialists<br clear=3D"none">209-948-8767<br clear=3D"none">www.britishcar=
specialists.com</div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-WEIGHT:normal;COLOR=
:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline;">
<div style=3D"FONT:10pt tahoma;">
<div> </div>
<div style=3D"BACKGROUND:#f5f5f5;">
<div id=3D"yiv4617816978yqtfd77350" class=3D"yiv4617816978yqt5595643449"><d=
iv style=3D""><b>From:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D=
"rect" title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net">Leonard Berkowitz via Healeys</a> <=
/div>
<div><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 13, 2023 6:43 AM</div>
<div><b>To:</b> <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" titl=
e=3D"healeys@autox.team.net">healeys@autox.team.net</a>=20
</div>
<div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Heater query</div></div></div></div><div=
id=3D"yiv4617816978yqtfd52836" class=3D"yiv4617816978yqt5595643449">
<div> </div></div></div><div id=3D"yiv4617816978yqtfd86651" class=3D"y=
iv4617816978yqt5595643449">
</div><div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:small;TEXT-DECORATION:none;FONT-WEIGHT:normal=
;COLOR:#000000;FONT-STYLE:normal;DISPLAY:inline;"><div id=3D"yiv4617816978y=
qtfd72785" class=3D"yiv4617816978yqt5595643449">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri, helvetica, sans-serif;COL=
OR:rgb(0,0,0);" class=3D"yiv4617816978elementToProof">I=20
do not have any experience with aluminum radiators but I have tried oil coo=
lers,=20
"Texas fans", and electric fans. I finally had my original recored with a c=
ore=20
that has extra rows. The upper tank is original but the lower is thicker, w=
hich=20
made installation a little challenging. The radiator has been in for at lea=
st=20
15-20 years. I have driven under almost every condition- very hot amb=
ient=20
temps, high speed (80-90MPH) traffic etc. and the engine temps stay where t=
hey=20
should be. Strongly recommend this option, especially since it almost=
=20
impossible to distinguish my radiator from the stock original and it has wo=
rked=20
to perfection. </div>
<div id=3D"yiv4617816978appendonsend"></div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:12pt;FONT-FAMILY:calibri, helvetica, sans-serif;COL=
OR:rgb(0,0,0);" class=3D"yiv4617816978elementToProof">Len=20
B</div>
<hr tabindex=3D"-1" style=3D"WIDTH:98%;DISPLAY:inline-block;">
<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"yiv4617816978divRplyFwdMsg"><b>From:</b> Healeys=20
<healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of warthodson--- via Heale=
ys=20
<healeys@autox.team.net><br clear=3D"none"><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, July=
11, 2023 9:49=20
AM<br clear=3D"none"><b>To:</b> healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.te=
am.net>;=20
BJ8Healeys <sbyers@ec.rr.com><br clear=3D"none"><b>Subject:</b> Re: [=
Healeys] Heater=20
query=20
<div> </div></div>
<div>
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:16px;FONT-FAMILY:comic sans ms, sans-serif;" class=
=3D"yiv4617816978x_ydp3ac0765cyahoo-style-wrap">
<div></div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">My 100 radiator is in need of some=20
rehabilitation. It either needs to be boiled out, which would not replace s=
ome=20
of the damaged fins, or re-cored. I am leaning toward re-coring but that wo=
uld=20
be more expensive, which leads to the aluminum option. </div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Besides price what are the pros vs. cons of=20
these options? Does anyone know if re-cored 100 radiator is more efficient =
than=20
an aluminum radiator?</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Gary H</div>
<div> </div></div>
<div id=3D"yiv4617816978x_ydp70f1316yahoo_quoted_9797011705" class=3D"yiv46=
17816978x_ydp70f1316yahoo_quoted">
<div style=3D"FONT-SIZE:13px;FONT-FAMILY:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;COLOR=
:rgb(38,40,42);">
<div>On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 09:02:21 PM CDT, BJ8Healeys via Healeys=20
<healeys@autox.team.net> wrote: </div>
<div> </div>
<div> </div>
<div>
<div id=3D"yiv4617816978x_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256">
<div>
<div class=3D"yiv4617816978x_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256Section1">
<p class=3D"yiv4617816978x_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);">I live in the sunny South (90</span><span style=3D"=
COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);">=C2=B0</span><span style=3D"COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);"> =
F and=20
90% relative humidity today) and I used to refer to my BJ8=E2=80=99s heater=
as the=20
=E2=80=9Cauxiliary engine cooler=E2=80=9D; but I no longer have to use =
; it that way since I=20
had a modern core installed in the radiator and added a 190</span><span sty=
le=3D"COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);">=C2=B0</span><span style=3D"COLOR:rgb(31,73,12=
5);">=20
sleeved thermostat that I bought from Kees.</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv4617816978x_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);"></span> </p>
<p class=3D"yiv4617816978x_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);">Steve Byers</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv4617816978x_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);">HBJ8L/36666</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv4617816978x_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);">BJ8 Registry</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv4617816978x_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);">AHCA Delegate at Large</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv4617816978x_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256MsoNormal"><span style=3D=
"COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);">Havelock, NC USA</span></p>
<p class=3D"yiv4617816978x_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256MsoNormal"><a rel=3D"nofo=
llow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" name=3D"x__MailEndCompose"><span s=
tyle=3D"COLOR:rgb(31,73,125);"></span></a> </p>
<div id=3D"yiv4617816978x_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256yqt99156" class=3D"yiv4617=
816978x_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256yqt6620226481">
<div>
<div style=3D"BORDER-TOP:#b5c4df 1pt solid;BORDER-RIGHT:medium none;BORDER-=
BOTTOM:medium none;PADDING-BOTTOM:0in;PADDING-TOP:3pt;PADDING-LEFT:0in;BORD=
ER-LEFT:medium none;PADDING-RIGHT:0in;">
<p class=3D"yiv4617816978x_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256MsoNormal"> </p></di=
v></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div>
<p>
</p><hr>
_______________________________________________<br clear=3D"none">Support T=
eam.Net=20
=20
$12.75<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Archive: http://www.team.net/pi=
permail/healeys=20
http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">=
Healeys@autox.team.net<br clear=3D"none">http://autox.team.net/mailman/list=
info/healeys</div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Unsubscribe/Manage:=
=20
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc@sbcglobal.net<div i=
d=3D"yiv4617816978yqtfd60392" class=3D"yiv4617816978yqt5595643449"><br clea=
r=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div></div></div></div></div></div><div clas=
s=3D"yqt5595643449" id=3D"yqtfd25961">_____________________________________=
__________<br clear=3D"none">Support Team.Net <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"htt=
p://www.team.net/donate.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/donate.=
html</a><br clear=3D"none">Suggested annual donation $12.75<br clear=
=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Archive: <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://www.=
team.net/pipermail/healeys" target=3D"_blank">http://www.team.net/pipermail=
/healeys</a> <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://autox.team.net/archive/healey=
s" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys</a><br clear=3D"=
none"><br clear=3D"none"><a shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:Healeys@autox.=
team.net" href=3D"mailto:Healeys@autox.team.net";>Healeys@autox.team.net</a>=
<br clear=3D"none"><a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/=
listinfo/healeys" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/=
healeys</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none">Unsubscribe/Manage: <a sha=
pe=3D"rect" href=3D"http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/rmarkovic=
h@aol.com" target=3D"_blank">http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/=
rmarkovich@aol.com</a><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquo=
te></blockquote></blockquote>
</body></html>
------=_Part_3727486_1448600916.1689273564113--
--===============0136652426027816286==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
_______________________________________________
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
Healeys@autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
--===============0136652426027816286==--
|