This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--===============5719542577199630391==
boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0063_01D9B569.8BB97140"
This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
------=_NextPart_000_0063_01D9B569.8BB97140
charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
We have been dealing with the British Car industry for only about 70 =
years, from an independent shop in the 50s and 60s, then a BL dealer in =
the 70s and 80s. Then back to an independent repair shop dealing =
strictly British Cars the entire time. =20
WE have dealt with running hot and overheating the entire time. Up until =
about 10 years ago we had been installing a special high efficency =
radiator core in all our radiators. We would not paint the cores, change =
the necks to a short neck allowing a higher pressure cap, correct =
thermostats, installed air ducts correctly. All of these things helped.=20
I am personnally hesitant to make changes until I have installed in my =
own personal car and actually seen a difference. On my BN4 I have a =
highly upgraded motor, a 3000 motor that is bored .060 over, perfomance =
MSD ignition and much more. I was continually having hot running =
problems here in the central valley of California with the summer temps =
always in the high 90s and upto 110.=20
I removed one of my upgraded radiators and installed an alluminium =
radiator, with 2 rows of 1=94 tubes. The original Healey radiator is a =
2 row core with 1/2 tubes, the upgraded core we have been installing is =
a 3 row core with 3/8 tubes with a new style fin. This esentially gave =
us more tube to fin area as well as more fin to air surface.
Now with the newer alloy radiator we gained more tube size, more tube to =
fin and more fin to air contact, This making better cooling.
Now for the test, I installed the alloy radiator in my car, and =
immediately the running temperature dropped by about 10 to 20 degrees =
depending on the day. However I still had an issue with slow traffic =
speeds. It was much better but I wanted to make it better. So I =
installed a pusher fan on a thermostat set at 180 degrees, and now all =
the heating issues are gone.
So maybe if you compare equal sized radiators with equal fins and tubes, =
the copper brass radiators are better. But my own personal test in my =
car proved to me that the alloy radiator was the cure.
David Nock
British Car Specialists
209-948-8767
www.britishcarspecialists.com
From: Leonard Berkowitz via Healeys=20
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2023 6:43 AM
To: healeys@autox.team.net=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heater query
I do not have any experience with aluminum radiators but I have tried =
oil coolers, "Texas fans", and electric fans. I finally had my original =
recored with a core that has extra rows. The upper tank is original but =
the lower is thicker, which made installation a little challenging. The =
radiator has been in for at least 15-20 years. I have driven under =
almost every condition- very hot ambient temps, high speed (80-90MPH) =
traffic etc. and the engine temps stay where they should be. Strongly =
recommend this option, especially since it almost impossible to =
distinguish my radiator from the stock original and it has worked to =
perfection. =20
Len B
-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of =
warthodson--- via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2023 9:49 AM
To: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>; BJ8Healeys =
<sbyers@ec.rr.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Heater query=20
My 100 radiator is in need of some rehabilitation. It either needs to be =
boiled out, which would not replace some of the damaged fins, or =
re-cored. I am leaning toward re-coring but that would be more =
expensive, which leads to the aluminum option. =20
Besides price what are the pros vs. cons of these options? Does anyone =
know if re-cored 100 radiator is more efficient than an aluminum =
radiator?
Gary H
On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 09:02:21 PM CDT, BJ8Healeys via Healeys =
<healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:=20
I live in the sunny South (90=B0 F and 90% relative humidity today) and =
I used to refer to my BJ8=92s heater as the =93auxiliary engine =
cooler=94; but I no longer have to use it that way since I had a modern =
core installed in the radiator and added a 190=B0 sleeved thermostat =
that I bought from Kees.
Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC USA
-------------------------------------------------------------------------=
-------
_______________________________________________
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys =
http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
Healeys@autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc@sbcglobal.net
------=_NextPart_000_0063_01D9B569.8BB97140
charset="Windows-1252"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
<HTML><HEAD>
<META content=3D"text/html; charset=3DWindows-1252" =
http-equiv=3DContent-Type>
<STYLE style=3D"DISPLAY: none"=20
type=3Dtext/css> P {margin-top:0;margin-bottom:0;} </STYLE>
</HEAD>
<BODY dir=3Dltr>
<DIV dir=3Dltr>
<DIV style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Century'; COLOR: #000000">
<DIV>We have been dealing with the British Car industry for only =
about 70=20
years, from an independent shop in the 50s and 60s, then a BL dealer in =
the 70s=20
and 80s. Then back to an independent repair shop dealing strictly =
British Cars=20
the entire time. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>WE have dealt with running hot and overheating the entire time. Up =
until=20
about 10 years ago we had been installing a special high efficency =
radiator core=20
in all our radiators. We would not paint the cores, change the necks to =
a short=20
neck allowing a higher pressure cap, correct thermostats, installed air =
ducts=20
correctly. All of these things helped. </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I am personnally hesitant to make changes until I have installed in =
my own=20
personal car and actually seen a difference. On my BN4 I have a highly =
upgraded=20
motor, a 3000 motor that is bored .060 over, perfomance MSD ignition and =
much=20
more. I was continually having hot running problems here in the central =
valley=20
of California with the summer temps always in the high 90s and upto 110. =
</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>I removed one of my upgraded radiators and installed an alluminium=20
radiator, with 2 rows of 1=94 tubes. The original Healey radiator =
is a 2 row=20
core with 1/2 tubes, the upgraded core we have been installing is a 3 =
row core=20
with 3/8 tubes with a new style fin. This esentially gave us more tube =
to fin=20
area as well as more fin to air surface.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Now with the newer alloy radiator we gained more tube size, more =
tube to=20
fin and more fin to air contact, This making better cooling.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Now for the test, I installed the alloy radiator in my car, and =
immediately=20
the running temperature dropped by about 10 to 20 degrees depending on =
the day.=20
However I still had an issue with slow traffic speeds. It was much =
better =20
but I wanted to make it better. So I installed a pusher fan on a =
thermostat set=20
at 180 degrees, and now all the heating issues are gone.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>So maybe if you compare equal sized radiators with equal fins and =
tubes,=20
the copper brass radiators are better. But my own personal test in my =
car proved=20
to me that the alloy radiator was the cure.</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>David Nock<BR>British Car=20
Specialists<BR>209-948-8767<BR>www.britishcarspecialists.com</DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
DISPLAY: inline'>
<DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt tahoma">
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV style=3D"BACKGROUND: #f5f5f5">
<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Dhealeys@autox.team.net>Leonard Berkowitz via Healeys</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, July 13, 2023 6:43 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Dhealeys@autox.team.net>healeys@autox.team.net</A>=20
</DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] Heater query</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: small; TEXT-DECORATION: none; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Calibri"; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000000; FONT-STYLE: normal; =
DISPLAY: inline'>
<DIV class=3DelementToProof=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, helvetica, sans-serif; =
COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">I=20
do not have any experience with aluminum radiators but I have tried oil =
coolers,=20
"Texas fans", and electric fans. I finally had my original recored with =
a core=20
that has extra rows. The upper tank is original but the lower is =
thicker, which=20
made installation a little challenging. The radiator has been in for at =
least=20
15-20 years. I have driven under almost every condition- very hot =
ambient=20
temps, high speed (80-90MPH) traffic etc. and the engine temps stay =
where they=20
should be. Strongly recommend this option, especially since it =
almost=20
impossible to distinguish my radiator from the stock original and it has =
worked=20
to perfection. </DIV>
<DIV id=3Dappendonsend></DIV>
<DIV class=3DelementToProof=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: calibri, helvetica, sans-serif; =
COLOR: rgb(0,0,0)">Len=20
B</DIV>
<HR tabIndex=3D-1 style=3D"WIDTH: 98%; DISPLAY: inline-block">
<DIV id=3DdivRplyFwdMsg dir=3Dltr><FONT style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; COLOR: =
rgb(0,0,0)"=20
face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif"><B>From:</B> Healeys=20
<healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of warthodson--- via =
Healeys=20
<healeys@autox.team.net><BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, July 11, 2023 =
9:49=20
AM<BR><B>To:</B> healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>;=20
BJ8Healeys <sbyers@ec.rr.com><BR><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] =
Heater=20
query</FONT>=20
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV class=3Dx_ydp3ac0765cyahoo-style-wrap=20
style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 16px; FONT-FAMILY: comic sans ms,sans-serif">
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr data-setdir=3D"false">My 100 radiator is in need of some=20
rehabilitation. It either needs to be boiled out, which would not =
replace some=20
of the damaged fins, or re-cored. I am leaning toward re-coring but that =
would=20
be more expensive, which leads to the aluminum option. </DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr data-setdir=3D"false">Besides price what are the pros vs. =
cons of=20
these options? Does anyone know if re-cored 100 radiator is more =
efficient than=20
an aluminum radiator?</DIV>
<DIV dir=3Dltr data-setdir=3D"false">Gary H</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dx_ydp70f1316yahoo_quoted_9797011705 =
class=3Dx_ydp70f1316yahoo_quoted>
<DIV=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 13px; FONT-FAMILY: "Helvetica Neue", helvetica, =
arial, sans-serif; COLOR: rgb(38,40,42)'>
<DIV>On Monday, July 10, 2023 at 09:02:21 PM CDT, BJ8Healeys via Healeys =
<healeys@autox.team.net> wrote: </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV id=3Dx_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256>
<DIV>
<DIV class=3Dx_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256Section1>
<P class=3Dx_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256MsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">I live in the sunny South =
(90</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">=B0</SPAN><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
rgb(31,73,125)"> F and=20
90% relative humidity today) and I used to refer to my BJ8=92s heater as =
the=20
=93auxiliary engine cooler=94; but I no longer have to use it that =
way since I=20
had a modern core installed in the radiator and added a 190</SPAN><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">=B0</SPAN><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
rgb(31,73,125)">=20
sleeved thermostat that I bought from Kees.</SPAN></P>
<P class=3Dx_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256MsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)"></SPAN> </P>
<P class=3Dx_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256MsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Steve Byers</SPAN></P>
<P class=3Dx_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256MsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">HBJ8L/36666</SPAN></P>
<P class=3Dx_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256MsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">BJ8 Registry</SPAN></P>
<P class=3Dx_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256MsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">AHCA Delegate at Large</SPAN></P>
<P class=3Dx_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256MsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D"COLOR: rgb(31,73,125)">Havelock, NC USA</SPAN></P>
<P class=3Dx_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256MsoNormal><A shape=3Drect=20
name=3Dx__MailEndCompose><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: =
rgb(31,73,125)"></SPAN></A> </P>
<DIV id=3Dx_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256yqt99156=20
class=3Dx_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256yqt6620226481>
<DIV>
<DIV=20
style=3D"BORDER-TOP: #b5c4df 1pt solid; BORDER-RIGHT: medium none; =
BORDER-BOTTOM: medium none; PADDING-BOTTOM: 0in; PADDING-TOP: 3pt; =
PADDING-LEFT: 0in; BORDER-LEFT: medium none; PADDING-RIGHT: 0in">
<P=20
class=3Dx_ydp70f1316yiv6075989256MsoNormal> </P></DIV></DIV></DIV></=
DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<P>
<HR>
_______________________________________________<BR>Support Team.Net=20
$12.75<BR><BR>Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys=20
http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys<BR><BR>Healeys@autox.team.net<BR>ht=
tp://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys<BR><BR>Unsubscribe/Manage:=20
http://autox.team.net/mailman/options/healeys/healeydoc@sbcglobal.net<BR>=
<BR></DIV></DIV></DIV></BODY></HTML>
------=_NextPart_000_0063_01D9B569.8BB97140--
--===============5719542577199630391==
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline
_______________________________________________
Archive: http://www.team.net/pipermail/healeys
http://autox.team.net/archive/healeys
Healeys@autox.team.net
http://autox.team.net/mailman/listinfo/healeys
--===============5719542577199630391==--
|