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Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer

To: "'Harold Manifold'" <manifold@telus.net>, "'HealeyRick'" <healeyrik@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer
From: "m.g.sharp--- via Healeys" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 14 May 2023 23:07:23 -0400
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I made up my own adaptor using a used hub and knock-off (spinner).  I =
had a machinist mount the hub on the lathe and ensure that it was true =
on the inside edges (where the bearings fit) and had him put a slight =
chamfer on the edges to provide better registration for the standard =
cones on a modern balancer.  Then we machined the centre out of the =
spinner so  that when the wheel is mounted on the hub and the spinner is =
tightened, the outer cone on the balancer fits through it and registers =
on the hub.  That part is a little tricky as if you machine the hole too =
big, the spinner will end up in two pieces =E2=80=93 measure carefully!  =
Hub and spinner was $25 at a swap meet and machining was $50.  I believe =
this adaptor will work on any post-war wire wheels except the Jags, =
which had different hubs.  Worked a treat on my TC wheels.  Healey is =
running vibration-free- so leaving it alone for now.

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I too liked on-wheel balancing and in my simple thinking it balanced the =
drum or disk at the same time =E2=80=93 as long as you remembered to =
mark the position of the wheels when you took them off and did not =
rotate them (to a different position on the car)!  That is likely one =
reason  they are not used anymore, because if your drums were out of =
balance and you added weights to the wheel that balanced them out, then =
every time you removed the wheel, you=E2=80=99d loose the balance, =
unless it went back in exactly the same position.   Anyhow it=E2=80=99s =
a moot point as I have not seen an on-wheel balancer for decades.   I =
imagine that disks run very true anyhow, but when I balanced the drums =
on the TC  they were significantly off.  I hear balancing Healey drums =
brings good results, but never felt the need as my BT7 has always run =
pretty smooth.  If anyone in Ontario (Canada) wants drums balanced, =
Garland and Sons in Scarborough did great work for me.

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Mirek

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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Harold =
Manifold
Sent: Thursday, May 11, 2023 11:35 AM
To: HealeyRick <healeyrik@gmail.com>
Cc: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Wire Wheel Balancer

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It looks like the kit is designed to follow the Dunlop/MWS =
recommendations for balancing. See attached. It should be a good piece =
of kit.

=20

Harold

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On Thu, May 11, 2023 at 8:28=E2=80=AFAM HealeyRick via Healeys =

AH Spares just sent out this email about a wire wheel balancer kit to =
mount the wheels on a modern balancing machine.  What are your thoughts? =
 =
https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/wheels/wire-wheel-bal=
ancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st =
<https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/wheels/wire-wheel-ba=
lancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&utm_source=3Dnewsletter&utm_mediu=
m=3Demail> &utm_source=3Dnewsletter&utm_medium=3Demail

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Rick Neville aka "HealeyRick"

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vlink=3Dpurple style=3D'word-wrap:break-word'><div =
class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I made up my own adaptor using a =
used hub and knock-off (spinner).=C2=A0 I had a machinist mount the hub =
on the lathe and ensure that it was true on the inside edges (where the =
bearings fit) and had him put a slight chamfer on the edges to provide =
better registration for the standard cones on a modern balancer.=C2=A0 =
Then we machined the centre out of the spinner so=C2=A0 that when the =
wheel is mounted on the hub and the spinner is tightened, the outer cone =
on the balancer fits through it and registers on the hub.=C2=A0 That =
part is a little tricky as if you machine the hole too big, the spinner =
will end up in two pieces =E2=80=93 measure carefully!=C2=A0 Hub and =
spinner was $25 at a swap meet and machining was $50.=C2=A0 I believe =
this adaptor will work on any post-war wire wheels except the Jags, =
which had different hubs.=C2=A0 Worked a treat on my TC wheels.=C2=A0 =
Healey is running vibration-free- so leaving it alone for =
now.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I too liked =
on-wheel balancing and in my simple thinking it balanced the drum or =
disk at the same time =E2=80=93 as long as you remembered to mark the =
position of the wheels when you took them off and did not rotate them =
(to a different position on the car)!=C2=A0 That is likely one reason =
=C2=A0they are not used anymore, because if your drums were out of =
balance and you added weights to the wheel that balanced them out, then =
every time you removed the wheel, you=E2=80=99d loose the balance, =
unless it went back in exactly the same position. =C2=A0=C2=A0Anyhow =
it=E2=80=99s a moot point as I have not seen an on-wheel balancer for =
decades. =C2=A0=C2=A0I imagine that disks run very true anyhow, but when =
I balanced the drums on the TC=C2=A0 they were significantly off.=C2=A0 =
I hear balancing Healey drums brings good results, but never felt the =
need as my BT7 has always run pretty smooth.=C2=A0 If anyone in Ontario =
(Canada) wants drums balanced, Garland and Sons in Scarborough did great =
work for me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Mirek<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Healeys =
&lt;healeys-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Harold =
Manifold<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, May 11, 2023 11:35 AM<br><b>To:</b> =
HealeyRick &lt;healeyrik@gmail.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> Healeys =
&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Wire =
Wheel Balancer<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>It =
looks like the kit is designed to follow&nbsp;the Dunlop/MWS =
recommendations for balancing. See attached. It should be a good piece =
of kit.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Harold<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Thu, May 11, 2023 at 8:28=E2=80=AFAM HealeyRick via Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>AH =
Spares just sent out this email about a wire wheel balancer kit to mount =
the wheels on a modern balancing machine.&nbsp; What are your =
thoughts?&nbsp;&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/wheels/wire-w=
heel-balancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&amp;utm_source=3Dnewslette=
r&amp;utm_medium=3Demail" =
target=3D"_blank">https://www.ahspares.co.uk/austin-healey/big-healey/whe=
els/wire-wheel-balancing-kit.aspx?utm_medium=3Demail-1st&amp;utm_source=3D=
newsletter&amp;utm_medium=3Demail</a><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Rick Neville aka =
&quot;HealeyRick&quot;<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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