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Resettable circuit breakers are common in marine starting systems but they
require manual resets. The original poster seemed to have been describing
a situation where something was tripping and then automatically resetting,
akin to a light-duty thermal breaker, which I have never seen in a car.
Best--Michael Oritt
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 8:03 PM Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
> I've seen a few discussions over the years by people wondering if there
> was a way to put a circuit breaker on the starter circuit. Maybe someone
> fitted a CB, or a fuse, along the long cable run from the battery to the
> starter, under the car? A fuse would be easiest but, of course, you'd have
> to replace it every time you had a short.
>
>
> On 3/10/2022 11:46 AM, Henry G Leach via Healeys wrote:
>
> Bob-there is nothing else under the dash on Healeys. There is no ballast
> resistor which would affect starting. If the starter is bad, it created a
> direct short to the batteries and by lifting the Positive ground cable it
> relived the short. The only other interruption in the line between the
> batteries and the starter is the shut-off switch, which you eliminated. Hank
>
> -----------------------------------------
> From: rfbegani@gmail.com
> To: "BJ8Healeys"
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Sent: Thursday March 10 2022 11:34:16AM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems
>
> It is not the cutoff switch because I replaced it twice over the years and
> gave up with using one. Keep thinking I would rebuild the original one
> that came with the car and never got around to it. Wonder if the new BJ8
> cut off switches from Moss are any good?
>
>
>
> Must be something else in line under the dash,
>
>
>
> Thanks Steve,
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
>
>
> *From:* BJ8Healeys <sbyers@ec.rr.com> <sbyers@ec.rr.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2022 2:15 PM
> *To:* rfbegani@gmail.com
> *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems
>
>
>
> The cutoff switch in the boot shorting out?
>
> Something similar happened to me when I was 3000 miles from home.
> Fortunately, the first time was temporary and I got home again before it
> happened the next time.
>
>
>
> Steve Byers
>
> BJ8 Registry
>
> AHCA Delegate at Large
>
> Havelock, NC USA
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of*
> Bob Begani via Healeys
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2022 1:16 PM
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems
>
>
>
> My high torque starter stopped operating. Determined it is the solenoid,
> so I will be removing it the starter for a bench test. Meanwhile, we
> discovered an interesting electrical situation. When trying to start the
> car the starter would short out and the electrical system would completely
> shut down. In checking the battery connection, it was discovered
> disconnecting and reconnecting the ground from the battery the electrical
> system became live. There must be a GFI type of device in the wires to and
> from the ignition switch. I doubt it was installed at the factory, maybe
> by the restorer? What am I looking for under the dash? It is a great
> idea, however I want to know what is it and where it is located.
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Reset=
table circuit breakers are common in marine starting systems but they requi=
re manual resets.=C2=A0 The original poster seemed to have been describing =
a situation where something was tripping and then automatically resetting, =
akin to a light-duty thermal breaker, which I have never seen in a car.=C2=
=A0 =C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff"><br></=
div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"color:#3333ff">Best--Michael Orit=
t</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail=
_attr">On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 8:03 PM Bob Spidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bs=
pidell@comcast.net">bspidell@comcast.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px s=
olid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
=20
=20
=20
<div>
I've seen a few discussions over the years by people wondering if
there was a way to put a circuit breaker on the starter circuit.
Maybe someone fitted a CB, or a fuse, along the long cable run from
the battery to the starter, under the car? A fuse would be easiest
but, of course, you'd have to replace it every time you had a short=
.<br>
<br>
<br>
<div>On 3/10/2022 11:46 AM, Henry G Leach
via Healeys wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
=20
Bob-there is nothing else under the dash on Healeys. There is no
ballast resistor which would affect starting. If the starter is
bad, it created a direct short to the batteries and by lifting the
Positive ground cable it relived the short. The only other
interruption in the line between the batteries and the starter is
the shut-off switch, which you eliminated. Hank<br>
<br>
<p>-----------------------------------------</p>
From: <a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">rfbegan=
i@gmail.com</a><br>
To: "BJ8Healeys"<br>
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">heale=
ys@autox.team.net</a><br>
Sent: Thursday March 10 2022 11:34:16AM<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems<br>
<br>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Ar=
ial,sans-serif">It is
not the
cutoff switch because I replaced it twice over the years and
gave
up with using one.=C2=A0 Keep thinking I would rebuild the
original
one that came with the car and never got around to it.=C2=A0
Wonder
if the new BJ8 cut off switches from Moss are any good?</span><=
/p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Ar=
ial,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Ar=
ial,sans-serif">Must
be something
else in line under the dash,</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Ar=
ial,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Ar=
ial,sans-serif">Thanks
Steve,</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Ar=
ial,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Ar=
ial,sans-serif">Bob
Begani</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Ar=
ial,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:no=
ne;border-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> BJ8Healeys
<a href=3D"mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com"; target=3D"_blank"><sby=
ers@ec.rr.com></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 10, 2022 2:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_b=
lank">rfbegani@gmail.com</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems</p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">The cut=
off
switch
in the boot shorting out?</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Somethi=
ng
similar
happened to me when I was 3000 miles from home.=C2=A0
Fortunately,
the first time was temporary and I got home again before it
happened the next time.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0<=
/span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Steve
Byers</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">BJ8
Registry</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">AHCA De=
legate
at
Large</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Haveloc=
k, NC=C2=A0
USA</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0<=
/span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:no=
ne;border-top:1pt solid rgb(181,196,223);padding:3pt 0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fa=
mily:Tahoma,sans-serif">From:</span></b>
<span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">=
Healeys
[<a>mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of</b> Bob Begani via Healeys<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 10, 2022 1:16 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems</span></p=
>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Ar=
ial,sans-serif">My
high torque
starter stopped operating. Determined it is the solenoid, so
I will
be removing it the starter for a bench test.=C2=A0 Meanwhile, w=
e
discovered an interesting electrical situation.=C2=A0 When tryi=
ng
to start the car the starter would short out and the
electrical
system would completely shut down.=C2=A0 In checking the batter=
y
connection, it was discovered disconnecting and reconnecting
the
ground from the battery the electrical system became live.=C2=
=A0
There must be a GFI type of device in the wires to and from
the
ignition switch.=C2=A0 I doubt it was installed at the factory,
maybe by the restorer?=C2=A0 What am I looking for under the
dash?=C2=A0 It is a great idea, however I want to know what is =
it
and where it is located.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Ar=
ial,sans-serif">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Ar=
ial,sans-serif">Bob
Begani</span></p>
</div>
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