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Yes agree. That hi torque motor is likely a shunt motor with lower current
(= lighter windings) than a regular series connected starter.
Surprised that there was no smoke or heat if it was shorted ! Perhaps you
removed quickly.
In effect you have shorted the batt +ve and -ve poles so no voltage
anywhere else.
rg
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 11:46 AM Henry G Leach via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
> Bob-there is nothing else under the dash on Healeys. There is no ballast
> resistor which would affect starting. If the starter is bad, it created a
> direct short to the batteries and by lifting the Positive ground cable it
> relived the short. The only other interruption in the line between the
> batteries and the starter is the shut-off switch, which you eliminated. Hank
>
> -----------------------------------------
> From: rfbegani@gmail.com
> To: "BJ8Healeys"
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Sent: Thursday March 10 2022 11:34:16AM
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems
>
> It is not the cutoff switch because I replaced it twice over the years and
> gave up with using one. Keep thinking I would rebuild the original one
> that came with the car and never got around to it. Wonder if the new BJ8
> cut off switches from Moss are any good?
>
>
>
> Must be something else in line under the dash,
>
>
>
> Thanks Steve,
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
>
>
>
> *From:* BJ8Healeys <sbyers@ec.rr.com>
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2022 2:15 PM
> *To:* rfbegani@gmail.com
> *Subject:* RE: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems
>
>
>
> The cutoff switch in the boot shorting out?
>
> Something similar happened to me when I was 3000 miles from home.
> Fortunately, the first time was temporary and I got home again before it
> happened the next time.
>
>
>
> Steve Byers
>
> BJ8 Registry
>
> AHCA Delegate at Large
>
> Havelock, NC USA
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] *On Behalf Of*
> Bob Begani via Healeys
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2022 1:16 PM
> *To:* healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems
>
>
>
> My high torque starter stopped operating. Determined it is the solenoid,
> so I will be removing it the starter for a bench test. Meanwhile, we
> discovered an interesting electrical situation. When trying to start the
> car the starter would short out and the electrical system would completely
> shut down. In checking the battery connection, it was discovered
> disconnecting and reconnecting the ground from the battery the electrical
> system became live. There must be a GFI type of device in the wires to and
> from the ignition switch. I doubt it was installed at the factory, maybe
> by the restorer? What am I looking for under the dash? It is a great
> idea, however I want to know what is it and where it is located.
>
>
>
> Bob Begani
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Yes agree. That hi torque motor is likely a shunt mot=
or with lower current (=3D lighter windings) than a regular series connecte=
d starter.</div><div>Surprised that there was no smoke or heat if it was sh=
orted ! Perhaps you removed quickly.<br></div><div>In effect you have short=
ed the batt +ve and -ve poles so no voltage anywhere else.<br></div><div>rg=
<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gm=
ail_attr">On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 11:46 AM Henry G Leach via Healeys <<a=
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>> wrot=
e:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0=
.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div>Bob-ther=
e is nothing else under the dash on Healeys. There is no ballast resistor w=
hich would affect starting. If the starter is bad, it created a direct shor=
t to the batteries and by lifting the Positive ground cable it relived the =
short. The only other interruption in the line between the batteries and th=
e starter is the shut-off switch, which you eliminated. Hank<br><br><div></=
div><p>-----------------------------------------</p>From: <a href=3D"mailto=
:rfbegani@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">rfbegani@gmail.com</a><br>To: "=
BJ8Healeys"<br>Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D=
"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>Sent: Thursday March 10 2022 11:34:1=
6AM<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems<br><br>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">It is not the
cutoff switch because I replaced it twice over the years and gave
up with using one.=C2=A0 Keep thinking I would rebuild the original
one that came with the car and never got around to it.=C2=A0 Wonder
if the new BJ8 cut off switches from Moss are any good?</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">Must be something
else in line under the dash,</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">Thanks
Steve,</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">Bob
Begani</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">=C2=A0</span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;borde=
r-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in"=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> BJ8Healeys
<<a href=3D"mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com"; target=3D"_blank">sbyers@ec.rr.com<=
/a>><br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March 10, 2022 2:15 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a h=
ref=3D"mailto:rfbegani@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">rfbegani@gmail.com</a><=
br><b>Subject:</b> RE: [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems</p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">The cutoff swit=
ch
in the boot shorting out?</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Something simil=
ar
happened to me when I was 3000 miles from home.=C2=A0 Fortunately,
the first time was temporary and I got home again before it
happened the next time.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span></=
p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Steve
Byers</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">BJ8
Registry</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">AHCA Delegate a=
t
Large</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">Havelock, NC=C2=
=A0
USA</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:rgb(31,73,125)">=C2=A0</span></=
p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border-color:rgb(181,196,223) currentcolor currentcolor;borde=
r-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in"=
>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,=
sans-serif">From:</span></b>
<span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Tahoma,sans-serif">Healeys
[<a>mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of</b> Bob Begani via Healeys<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, March =
10, 2022 1:16 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>Subject:=
</b> [Healeys] BJ8 electrical problems</span></p>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal">=C2=A0</p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">My high torque
starter stopped operating. Determined it is the solenoid, so I will
be removing it the starter for a bench test.=C2=A0 Meanwhile, we
discovered an interesting electrical situation.=C2=A0 When trying
to start the car the starter would short out and the electrical
system would completely shut down.=C2=A0 In checking the battery
connection, it was discovered disconnecting and reconnecting the
ground from the battery the electrical system became live.=C2=A0
There must be a GFI type of device in the wires to and from the
ignition switch.=C2=A0 I doubt it was installed at the factory,
maybe by the restorer?=C2=A0 What am I looking for under the
dash?=C2=A0 It is a great idea, however I want to know what is it
and where it is located.</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">=C2=A0</span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:16pt;font-family:Arial,sans=
-serif">Bob
Begani</span></p>
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