Re: [Healeys] BN2 Fan Belt

[Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>]

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That's total BS Bob.
The "cogs" are really just there to eliminate stress in the belt as it
curves around pulleys.
A "V" belt must ride on its side faces without the inside surface bottoming
out in any pulley.

M

On Sun., Oct. 17, 2021, 12:58 p.m. Bob Spidell, <bspidell@comcast.net>
wrote:

> It was suggested to me that the cogged belt is *designed *to grab the
> bottom of the pulley, instead of the sides. This makes some sense, any
> industrial engineers know the 'theory' on this.
>
> One thing is for sure, the cogged belt "don't *look* 'right,'" at least
> not compared to original.
>
>
> On 10/17/2021 8:13 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
>
> As I recall the original belt for a 100 is a Ferodo V161.
>  I have been using a B-45 Gates belts which sit a little lower in the
> pulley but don't contact the bottom of the pulley groove.
> https://www.biedlers-belts.com/gates-b45-belt.html
>
> M
>
>
> On Sun., Oct. 17, 2021, 10:16 a.m. David P via Healeys, <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>> Gates belts has a belt for industrial equipment (non automotive) that is
>> an excellent copy of the original. Unfortunately I don't remember the part
>> number.. (gets worse with age). I found it googling their web pages.. B1
>> kinda rings a bell.. happy hunting.  DP
>> On 10/17/2021 8:01 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:
>>
>> I'm going to return it, with '8x10 colored glossy photographs.'
>>
>>
>> On 10/17/2021 6:43 AM, warthodson@aol.com wrote:
>>
>> Bob,
>> The way the vendors find out about an issue is if the customer tells
>> them.  You should forward your message to Moss.
>> Gary Hodson
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> <bspidell@comcast.net>
>> To: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> Sent: Sat, Oct 16, 2021 7:52 pm
>> Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Fan Belt
>>
>> I finally got around to fixing my loose water pump pulley and installing
>> a new fan belt. I ordered a 'cogged' belt from Moss--part#
>> 021-966--thinking it might work better than the original slab of rubber. I
>> noticed before installing that it was narrower than the original type that
>> I'd had, which had rotted, but it looked like it would work. Once I started
>> tensioning it however, it was clear it *might *work, but sat too low in
>> the pulleys, and was essentially riding on the bottom of the pulley grooves
>> instead of on the sides (and the angle of the sides of the belt was
>> incorrect). Anyone else tried one of these?
>>
>> I'm shocked, SHOCKED I TELL YA', that a vendor would sell something that
>> could possibly work, but isn't truly correct.
>>
>> bs
>>
>>
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<div dir=3D"auto">That&#39;s total BS Bob.<div dir=3D"auto">The &quot;cogs&=
quot; are really just there to eliminate stress in the belt as it curves ar=
ound pulleys.=C2=A0</div><div dir=3D"auto">A &quot;V&quot; belt must ride o=
n its side faces without the inside surface bottoming out in any pulley.</d=
iv><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><br><div clas=
s=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun., Oct. 17, 2=
021, 12:58 p.m. Bob Spidell, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bs=
pidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote=
" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
 =20
   =20
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  <div>
    It was suggested to me that the cogged belt is <i>designed </i>to
    grab the bottom of the pulley, instead of the sides. This makes some
    sense, any industrial engineers know the &#39;theory&#39; on this.<br>
    <br>
    One thing is for sure, the cogged belt &quot;don&#39;t <i>look</i> &#39=
;right,&#39;&quot;
    at least not compared to original.<br>
    <br>
    <br>
    <div>On 10/17/2021 8:13 AM, Michael Salter
      wrote:<br>
    </div>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
     =20
      <div dir=3D"auto">As I recall the original belt for a 100 is a
        Ferodo V161.
        <div dir=3D"auto">=C2=A0I have been using a B-45 Gates belts which =
sit
          a little lower in the pulley but don&#39;t contact the bottom of
          the pulley groove.</div>
        <div dir=3D"auto"><a href=3D"https://www.biedlers-belts.com/gates-b=
45-belt.html" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">https://www.biedlers-bel=
ts.com/gates-b45-belt.html</a><br>
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir=3D"auto">M</div>
        <div dir=3D"auto"><br>
        </div>
      </div>
      <br>
      <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
        <div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun., Oct. 17, 2021, 10:16
          a.m. David P via Healeys, &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.tea=
m.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.n=
et</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
        </div>
        <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border=
-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
          <div>
            <p>Gates belts has a belt for industrial equipment (non
              automotive) that is an excellent copy of the original.
              Unfortunately I don&#39;t remember the part number.. (gets
              worse with age). I found it googling their web pages.. B1
              kinda rings a bell.. happy hunting.=C2=A0 DP <br>
            </p>
            <div>On 10/17/2021 8:01 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote type=3D"cite"> I&#39;m going to return it, with &#3=
9;8x10
              colored glossy photographs.&#39;<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <div>On 10/17/2021 6:43 AM, <a href=3D"mailto:warthodson@aol.=
com" rel=3D"noreferrer
                  noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">warthodson@aol.c=
om</a>
                wrote:<br>
              </div>
              <blockquote type=3D"cite">
                <div style=3D"color:black;font:12pt Comic Sans MS,sans-seri=
f">Bob,
                  <div>The way the vendors find out about an issue is if
                    the customer tells them.=C2=A0 You should forward your
                    message to Moss.</div>
                  <div>Gary Hodson<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    <div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10p=
t;color:black"><font size=3D"2">-----Original Message-----<br>
                        From: Bob Spidell <a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcas=
t.net" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">&lt;bspid=
ell@comcast.net&gt;</a><br>
                        To: Healeys <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.ne=
t" rel=3D"noreferrer noreferrer noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">&lt;healeys@a=
utox.team.net&gt;</a><br>
                        Sent: Sat, Oct 16, 2021 7:52 pm<br>
                        Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Fan Belt<br>
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                        <div id=3D"m_7365777734488803444m_-8497860751573058=
673m_2714273202460204982yiv8575284951">
                          <div> I finally got around to fixing my loose
                            water pump pulley and installing a new fan
                            belt. I ordered a &#39;cogged&#39; belt from
                            Moss--part# 021-966--thinking it might work
                            better than the original slab of rubber. I
                            noticed before installing that it was
                            narrower than the original type that I&#39;d
                            had, which had rotted, but it looked like it
                            would work. Once I started tensioning it
                            however, it was clear it <i>might </i>work,
                            but sat too low in the pulleys, and was
                            essentially riding on the bottom of the
                            pulley grooves instead of on the sides (and
                            the angle of the sides of the belt was
                            incorrect). Anyone else tried one of these?<br>
                            <br>
                            I&#39;m shocked, SHOCKED I TELL YA&#39;, that a
                            vendor would sell something that could
                            possibly work, but isn&#39;t truly correct.<br>
                            <br>
                            bs<br>
                          </div>
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