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Re: [Healeys] BN2 Fan Belt

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Subject: Re: [Healeys] BN2 Fan Belt
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
Date: Sun, 17 Oct 2021 10:03:55 -0700
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This doc--from the government, so it HAS to be true ;)--claims cogged, 
or 'synchronous,' are most efficient:

https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy13osti/56012.pdf

Now I have to deal with smooth/standard, cogged, and 'notched' (what's 
the diff?).

bs

On 10/17/2021 8:13 AM, Michael Salter wrote:
> As I recall the original belt for a 100 is a Ferodo V161.
>  I have been using a B-45 Gates belts which sit a little lower in the 
> pulley but don't contact the bottom of the pulley groove.
> https://www.biedlers-belts.com/gates-b45-belt.html 
> <https://www.biedlers-belts.com/gates-b45-belt.html>
>
> M
>
>
> On Sun., Oct. 17, 2021, 10:16 a.m. David P via Healeys, 
>
>     Gates belts has a belt for industrial equipment (non automotive)
>     that is an excellent copy of the original. Unfortunately I don't
>     remember the part number.. (gets worse with age). I found it
>     googling their web pages.. B1 kinda rings a bell.. happy hunting.  DP
>
>     On 10/17/2021 8:01 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:
>>     I'm going to return it, with '8x10 colored glossy photographs.'
>>
>>
>>     On 10/17/2021 6:43 AM, warthodson@aol.com
>>>     Bob,
>>>     The way the vendors find out about an issue is if the customer
>>>     tells them.  You should forward your message to Moss.
>>>     Gary Hodson
>>>
>>>
>>>     -----Original Message-----
>>>     From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
>>>     Sent: Sat, Oct 16, 2021 7:52 pm
>>>     Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Fan Belt
>>>
>>>     I finally got around to fixing my loose water pump pulley and
>>>     installing a new fan belt. I ordered a 'cogged' belt from
>>>     Moss--part# 021-966--thinking it might work better than the
>>>     original slab of rubber. I noticed before installing that it was
>>>     narrower than the original type that I'd had, which had rotted,
>>>     but it looked like it would work. Once I started tensioning it
>>>     however, it was clear it /might /work, but sat too low in the
>>>     pulleys, and was essentially riding on the bottom of the pulley
>>>     grooves instead of on the sides (and the angle of the sides of
>>>     the belt was incorrect). Anyone else tried one of these?
>>>
>>>     I'm shocked, SHOCKED I TELL YA', that a vendor would sell
>>>     something that could possibly work, but isn't truly correct.
>>>
>>>     bs
>>>
>>


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    This doc--from the government, so it HAS to be true ;)--claims
    cogged, or 'synchronous,' are most efficient:<br>
    <br>
    <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" 
href="https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy13osti/56012.pdf";>https://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy13osti/56012.pdf</a><br>
    <br>
    Now I have to deal with smooth/standard, cogged, and 'notched'
    (what's the diff?).<br>
    <br>
    bs<br>
    <br>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 10/17/2021 8:13 AM, Michael Salter
      wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAB3i7LLCRORTQvzhGi23aVhgY3vUSJJt38eDYf36=QRdSAYPAw@mail.gmail.com">
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      <div dir="auto">As I recall the original belt for a 100 is a
        Ferodo V161.
        <div dir="auto"> I have been using a B-45 Gates belts which sit
          a little lower in the pulley but don't contact the bottom of
          the pulley groove.</div>
        <div dir="auto"><a
            href="https://www.biedlers-belts.com/gates-b45-belt.html";
            
moz-do-not-send="true">https://www.biedlers-belts.com/gates-b45-belt.html</a><br>
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        <div dir="auto"><br>
        </div>
        <div dir="auto">M</div>
        <div dir="auto"><br>
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        <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun., Oct. 17, 2021, 10:16
          a.m. David P via Healeys, &lt;<a
            href="mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target="_blank"
            rel="noreferrer" 
moz-do-not-send="true">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
          wrote:<br>
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            <p>Gates belts has a belt for industrial equipment (non
              automotive) that is an excellent copy of the original.
              Unfortunately I don't remember the part number.. (gets
              worse with age). I found it googling their web pages.. B1
              kinda rings a bell.. happy hunting.  DP <br>
            </p>
            <div>On 10/17/2021 8:01 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:<br>
            </div>
            <blockquote type="cite"> I'm going to return it, with '8x10
              colored glossy photographs.'<br>
              <br>
              <br>
              <div>On 10/17/2021 6:43 AM, <a
                  href="mailto:warthodson@aol.com"; rel="noreferrer
                  noreferrer" target="_blank" 
moz-do-not-send="true">warthodson@aol.com</a>
                wrote:<br>
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                <div style="color:black;font:12pt Comic Sans
                  MS,sans-serif">Bob,
                  <div>The way the vendors find out about an issue is if
                    the customer tells them.  You should forward your
                    message to Moss.</div>
                  <div>Gary Hodson<br>
                    <br>
                    <br>
                    <div
                      
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                        From: Bob Spidell <a
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                        To: Healeys <a
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                        Sent: Sat, Oct 16, 2021 7:52 pm<br>
                        Subject: [Healeys] BN2 Fan Belt<br>
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                          <div> I finally got around to fixing my loose
                            water pump pulley and installing a new fan
                            belt. I ordered a 'cogged' belt from
                            Moss--part# 021-966--thinking it might work
                            better than the original slab of rubber. I
                            noticed before installing that it was
                            narrower than the original type that I'd
                            had, which had rotted, but it looked like it
                            would work. Once I started tensioning it
                            however, it was clear it <i>might </i>work,
                            but sat too low in the pulleys, and was
                            essentially riding on the bottom of the
                            pulley grooves instead of on the sides (and
                            the angle of the sides of the belt was
                            incorrect). Anyone else tried one of these?<br>
                            <br>
                            I'm shocked, SHOCKED I TELL YA', that a
                            vendor would sell something that could
                            possibly work, but isn't truly correct.<br>
                            <br>
                            bs<br>
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