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Re: [Healeys] 100 door vinyl original glue technique

To: Jean Caron <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com>, "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 100 door vinyl original glue technique
From: S and T Miller via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 16:09:34 +0000
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That would be great if you find it.
TY


The Millers

"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test dri=
ve."
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From: Jean Caron <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com>
Sent: Friday, October 1, 2021 10:09 AM
To: S and T Miller <stmiller96@hotmail.com>; healeys@autox.team.net <healey=
s@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] 100 door vinyl original glue technique


Roger Moment also did an article in one of the AHCUSA Magazine about the do=
ors on a 100, I am trying to find when the article was published and the ph=
otos for it.



Jean



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Sent: October 1, 2021 8:41 AM
Subject: [Healeys] 100 door vinyl original glue technique



I've done some more digging on the "Ole interwebs" after asking this questi=
on of the group.  I did learn that not all doors have the vertical/ central=
 wide metal brace running from the bottom of the door to the wood horizonta=
l brace (screw attachment point for the upper panel). I'd speculate that it=
 was added on later in the run as a needed exterior door skin support. I'm =
sure someone on here knows when and why. I did find some pictures showing t=
he vinyl glued over that brace and it is visible through the vinyl covering=
.



As far as the wood horizontal brace it appears most glue it creating a 90 d=
egree lip below the upper stiff backed panel. It just didn't seem correct t=
o me, but after viewing numerous completed cars,  it doesn't look bad.



I'm not doing a concours car, but some areas I just get all wrapped up in m=
aking it as factory correct as possible.





The Millers

"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test dri=
ve."





From: S and T Miller
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 9:02 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: 100 door vinyl original glue technique



How did the factory go about gluing the bottom inner vinyl material to the =
inner door? So if you glue it tight there is a brace running up the middle =
that will show through, and also there would be a 90 degree ledge where it =
meets the horizontal wood middle support (below the upper vinyl covered pan=
el). I'm fairly certain there was no backing material on this piece of viny=
l from the factory.  My thought is to glue to the metal brace and glue a di=
stance away to create a nice transition. And the same method from the horiz=
ontal mid wood support which would leave some unglued void areas between th=
e vinyl and the inner door.



I do realize that adding some backing takes care of the issues,  but am int=
erested in how it was done originally.  I don't recall mine having any back=
ing, and my original vinyl is too stiff and pulled away to tell how it was =
done. Once I flattened out my originals,  they did make fantastic templates=
 to cut the new vinyl from.

TIA, Shawn



The Millers

"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test dri=
ve."



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<div>The Millers<br>
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<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 1, 2021 10:09 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> S and T Miller &lt;stmiller96@hotmail.com&gt;; healeys@autox.tea=
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 &quot;Ole interwebs&quot; after asking this question of the group.&nbsp; I=
 did learn that not all doors have the vertical/ central wide
 metal brace running from the bottom of the door to the wood horizontal bra=
ce (screw attachment point for the upper panel). I'd speculate that it was =
added on later in the run as a needed exterior door skin support. I'm sure =
someone on here knows when and why.
 I did find some pictures showing the vinyl glued over that brace and it is=
 visible through the vinyl covering.&nbsp;</span></p>
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;Segoe UI&quot;,sans-serif; color:black">As far as the wood horizontal brac=
e it appears most glue it creating a 90 degree lip below the upper stiff ba=
cked panel. It just didn't seem correct to me,
 but after viewing numerous completed cars,&nbsp; it doesn't look bad.&nbsp=
;&nbsp;</span></p>
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sible.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span></p>
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<div>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">The Millers<br>
&nbsp;<br>
&quot;Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a tes=
t drive.&quot;</p>
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<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 29, 2021 9:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> healeys@autox.team.net &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> 100 door vinyl original glue technique </span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:&quot=
;Segoe UI&quot;,sans-serif; color:black">How did the factory go about gluin=
g the bottom inner vinyl material to the inner door? So if you glue it tigh=
t there is a brace running up the middle that
 will show through, and also there would be a 90 degree ledge where it meet=
s the horizontal wood middle support (below the upper vinyl covered panel).=
 I'm fairly certain there was no backing material on this piece of vinyl fr=
om the factory.&nbsp; My thought is to
 glue to the metal brace and glue a distance away to create a nice transiti=
on. And the same method from the horizontal mid wood support which would le=
ave some unglued void areas between the vinyl and the inner door.&nbsp;</sp=
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ing takes care of the issues,&nbsp; but am interested in how it was done or=
iginally.&nbsp; I don't recall mine having any backing,
 and my original vinyl is too stiff and pulled away to tell how it was done=
. Once I flattened out my originals,&nbsp; they did make fantastic template=
s to cut the new vinyl from.&nbsp;</span></p>
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt; font-family:&quot=
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<p class=3D"x_MsoNormal">The Millers<br>
&nbsp;<br>
&quot;Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a tes=
t drive.&quot;</p>
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