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Subject: [Healeys] 100 door vinyl original glue technique
From: S and T Miller via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2021 13:39:20 +0000
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I've done some more digging on the "Ole interwebs" after asking this questi=
on of the group.  I did learn that not all doors have the vertical/ central=
 wide metal brace running from the bottom of the door to the wood horizonta=
l brace (screw attachment point for the upper panel). I'd speculate that it=
 was added on later in the run as a needed exterior door skin support. I'm =
sure someone on here knows when and why. I did find some pictures showing t=
he vinyl glued over that brace and it is visible through the vinyl covering=
.

As far as the wood horizontal brace it appears most glue it creating a 90 d=
egree lip below the upper stiff backed panel. It just didn't seem correct t=
o me, but after viewing numerous completed cars,  it doesn't look bad.

I'm not doing a concours car, but some areas I just get all wrapped up in m=
aking it as factory correct as possible.


The Millers

"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test dri=
ve."

________________________________
From: S and T Miller
Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2021 9:02 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: 100 door vinyl original glue technique

How did the factory go about gluing the bottom inner vinyl material to the =
inner door? So if you glue it tight there is a brace running up the middle =
that will show through, and also there would be a 90 degree ledge where it =
meets the horizontal wood middle support (below the upper vinyl covered pan=
el). I'm fairly certain there was no backing material on this piece of viny=
l from the factory.  My thought is to glue to the metal brace and glue a di=
stance away to create a nice transition. And the same method from the horiz=
ontal mid wood support which would leave some unglued void areas between th=
e vinyl and the inner door.

I do realize that adding some backing takes care of the issues,  but am int=
erested in how it was done originally.  I don't recall mine having any back=
ing, and my original vinyl is too stiff and pulled away to tell how it was =
done. Once I flattened out my originals,  they did make fantastic templates=
 to cut the new vinyl from.
TIA, Shawn

The Millers

"Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a test dri=
ve."

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I've done some more digging on the &quot;Ole interwebs&quot; after asking t=
his question of the group.&nbsp; I did learn that not all doors have the ve=
rtical/ central wide metal brace running from the bottom of the door to the=
 wood horizontal brace (screw attachment point
 for the upper panel). I'd speculate that it was added on later in the run =
as a needed exterior door skin support. I'm sure someone on here knows when=
 and why. I did find some pictures showing the vinyl glued over that brace =
and it is visible through the vinyl
 covering.&nbsp;</div>
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As far as the wood horizontal brace it appears most glue it creating a 90 d=
egree lip below the upper stiff backed panel. It just didn't seem correct t=
o me, but after viewing numerous completed cars,&nbsp; it doesn't look bad.=
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I'm not doing a concours car, but some areas I just get all wrapped up in m=
aking it as factory correct as possible.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div>
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<div><br>
</div>
<div>The Millers<br>
&nbsp;<br>
&quot;Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a tes=
t drive.&quot;<br>
</div>
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yle=3D"font-size:11pt" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> S and T Miller<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, September 29, 2021 9:02 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> healeys@autox.team.net &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
<b>Subject:</b> 100 door vinyl original glue technique </font>
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How did the factory go about gluing the bottom inner vinyl material to the =
inner door? So if you glue it tight there is a brace running up the middle =
that will show through, and also there would be a 90 degree ledge where it =
meets the horizontal wood middle
 support (below the upper vinyl covered panel). I'm fairly certain there wa=
s no backing material on this piece of vinyl from the factory.&nbsp; My tho=
ught is to glue to the metal brace and glue a distance away to create a nic=
e transition. And the same method from
 the horizontal mid wood support which would leave some unglued void areas =
between the vinyl and the inner door.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;segoe ui westeuropean&quot;,&quot;segoe ui&=
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I do realize that adding some backing takes care of the issues,&nbsp; but a=
m interested in how it was done originally.&nbsp; I don't recall mine havin=
g any backing, and my original vinyl is too stiff and pulled away to tell h=
ow it was done. Once I flattened out my originals,&nbsp;
 they did make fantastic templates to cut the new vinyl from.&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:&quot;segoe ui westeuropean&quot;,&quot;segoe ui&=
quot;,helvetica,arial,sans-serif; font-size:12pt; color:rgb(0,0,0)">
TIA, Shawn</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The Millers<br>
&nbsp;<br>
&quot;Always drive them, but remember each drive in an antique car is a tes=
t drive.&quot;<br>
</div>
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