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Lucas horns are the crowns of the prince of darkness.=20
I love most Lucas stuff.=20
Except Lucas Horns.=20
Devils stuff.=20
The Lucas horn in my A40 Farina weighs 2.5 Kg.=20
Waste of everything=20
> On 20 Jan 2021, at 5:02 pm, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF Man, those horns take a lot of juice. That's about the total out=
put--25A, give or take--of a stock generator (maybe less at idle).
>=20
> Anybody ever laid on the horns with the lights on?=20
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> On 1/19/2021 7:53 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote:
>> The Brown/Green wire is the power supply for the horn. The brown wire is c=
onnected to an unswitched power source, the A contact on the regulator.
>>=20
>> The wires are correct as is the 50 amp Lucas slow blow fuse. Ref: AH 100 S=
ervice Manual.
>>=20
>> Bill Lawrence
>> BN1 #554
>> From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Bob Spidell <=
bspidell@comcast.net>
>> Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 5:51 PM
>> To: john harper <ah100tech@gmail.com>
>> Cc: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Late Monday night rant.
>> =20
>> Nope. All wires were otherwise accounted-for; two were 'cross-colored.' T=
he harness was brand new; I don't know of any that supply extra wiring for s=
eparate turn signals, but I haven't looked (would be a good idea, though).
>> bs
>>=20
>> On 1/19/2021 9:05 AM, john harper wrote:
>>> Bob
>>> Could it be a wrong wire or an additional one?
>>>=20
>>> I and many others in the UK feel that with just two red lights coming on=
is very confusing particularly as one enters a corner and brakes. This conf=
using array is therefore dangerous. In the UK amber turn lights have been ma=
ndatory for many years. Younger drivers would not understand anything but am=
ber.
>>>=20
>>> The mod we make for the back of the car is to add amber lights connected=
on the existing wires but connect both red stoplights to this additional wi=
re. At the relay box, all is needed is one wire being redirected to the new w=
ire.
>>>=20
>>> On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 at 16:10, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
>>> Michael,
>>>=20
>>> I feel your pain. My dad got a new harness for our BN2 (probably from Mo=
ss). I thought the harness was good quality overall, and everything worked e=
xcept the turn signals. I spent 3 days double-checking everything; we went s=
o far as to open the relay box, but everything looked good in there. I event=
ually discovered the wiring to one of the rear brake/turn lights was mis-col=
ored. This really pissed me off, as I'd wired a bare chassis just from the s=
chematic and it would have been 100% correct if not for the misidentified wi=
re. I'll probably never sell the car, but whoever ends up with it will be co=
nfused, as a couple of wires are interchanged from the schematic. Come to th=
ink of it, I should probably label the flaw ... as soon as I finish all the o=
ther stuff needs fixin'.
>>>=20
>>> Bob
>>>=20
>>> On 1/18/2021 11:38 PM, Michael MacLean wrote:
>>>> Was in the engine bay doing some preliminary wiring of components tonig=
ht. Specifically, the fuse block and the voltage regulator. Looking at a w=
iring diagram, the way you see in the two pictures is mostly correct, but lo=
ok at what the arrows are pointing at. At the point in the harness where th=
e wires come out of the loom for the fuse block, you can see on the right ha=
nd side the arrow is pointing to a brown wire with a green stripe. Good so f=
ar. Now look what the arrow is pointing at on the other side of the fuse bl=
ock. It's a large solid brown wire. Now in the wiring diagram this brown w=
ire is supposed to be a continuation of the brown with a green stripe wire. =
That brown wire with the green strip that was supposed to be there goes to t=
he "A" connection of the voltage regulator. Now look at the picture of the v=
oltage regulator and notice what the orange arrow is pointing at. It is the o=
ther end of the plain, large brown wire! The electrical connections are cor=
rect. The color coding of the harness is not. I have just started wiring. =
What else might I find in the rest of the harness? This harness was a gift=
from my late friend Tom Rocke. It was one of many free parts he supplied f=
or this rebuild. Don't know if I should complain about a free harness.
>>>> Mike MacLean
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto"><div dir=3D"ltr">Lucas horns are the crowns=
of the prince of darkness. </div><div dir=3D"ltr">I love most Lucas st=
uff. </div><div dir=3D"ltr">Except Lucas Horns. </div><div dir=3D"=
ltr">Devils stuff. </div><div dir=3D"ltr">The Lucas horn in my A40 Fari=
na weighs 2.5 Kg. </div><div dir=3D"ltr">Waste of everything </div=
><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br>=
<blockquote type=3D"cite">On 20 Jan 2021, at 5:02 pm, Bob Spidell <bspide=
ll@comcast.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite=
"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF
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<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html;
charset=3Dwindows-1252">
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Man, those horns take a lot of juice. That's about the total
output--25A, give or take--of a stock generator (maybe less at
idle).<br>
<br>
Anybody ever laid on the horns with the lights on? <br>
<br>
<br>
<br>
<div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 1/19/2021 7:53 PM, WILLIAM B
LAWRENCE wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite" cite=3D"mid:BYAPR15MB2213F64C0002E517B57054F5A=
5A20@BYAPR15MB2213.namprd15.prod.outlook.com">
<meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html;
charset=3Dwindows-1252">
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<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
The Brown/Green wire is the power supply for the horn. The brown
wire is connected to an unswitched power source, the A contact
on the regulator.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
The wires are correct as is the 50 amp Lucas slow blow fuse.
Ref: AH 100 Service Manual.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
Bill Lawrence</div>
<div style=3D"font-family: Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;
font-size: 12pt; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">
BN1 #554</div>
<hr style=3D"display:inline-block;width:98%" tabindex=3D"-1">
<div id=3D"divRplyFwdMsg" dir=3D"ltr"><font style=3D"font-size:11pt" f=
ace=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b>
Healeys <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:healeys-=
bounces@autox.team.net"><healeys-bounces@autox.team.net></a> on behalf=
of
Bob Spidell <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:bspi=
dell@comcast.net"><bspidell@comcast.net></a><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 19, 2021 5:51 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> john harper <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"=
mailto:ah100tech@gmail.com";><ah100tech@gmail.com></a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> Healeys <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mail=
to:healeys@autox.team.net"><healeys@autox.team.net></a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Late Monday night rant.</font>
<div> </div>
</div>
<div>Nope. All wires were otherwise accounted-for; two were
'cross-colored.' The harness was brand new; I don't know of any
that supply extra wiring for separate turn signals, but I
haven't looked (would be a good idea, though).<br>
bs<br>
<br>
<div class=3D"x_moz-cite-prefix">On 1/19/2021 9:05 AM, john harper
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Bob
<div>Could it be a wrong wire or an additional one?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>I and many others in the UK feel that with just two red
lights coming on is very confusing particularly as one
enters a corner and brakes. This confusing array is
therefore dangerous. In the UK amber turn lights have bee=
n
mandatory for many years. Younger drivers would not
understand anything but amber.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>The mod we make for the back of the car is to add amber
lights connected on the existing wires but connect both
red stoplights to this additional wire. At the relay box,
all is needed is one wire being redirected to the new
wire.</div>
</div>
<br>
<div class=3D"x_gmail_quote">
<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gmail_attr">On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 at
16:10, Bob Spidell <<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"=
moz-do-not-send=3D"true">bspidell@comcast.net</a>>
wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote class=3D"x_gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px
0.8ex; border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);
padding-left:1ex">
<div>Michael,<br>
<br>
I feel your pain. My dad got a new harness for our BN2
(probably from Moss). I thought the harness was good
quality overall, and everything worked except the turn
signals. I spent 3 days double-checking everything; we
went so far as to open the relay box, but everything
looked good in there. I eventually discovered the wiring
to one of the rear brake/turn lights was mis-colored.
This really pissed me off, as I'd wired a bare chassis
just from the schematic and it would have been 100%
correct if not for the misidentified wire. I'll probably
never sell the car, but whoever ends up with it will be
confused, as a couple of wires are interchanged from the
schematic. Come to think of it, I should probably label
the flaw ... as soon as I finish all the other stuff
needs fixin'.<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
<br>
<div>On 1/18/2021 11:38 PM, Michael MacLean wrote:<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div style=3D"">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Was in the engine bay doing some
preliminary wiring of components tonight.
Specifically, the fuse block and the voltage
regulator. Looking at a wiring diagram, the way
you see in the two pictures is mostly correct, but
look at what the arrows are pointing at. At the
point in the harness where the wires come out of
the loom for the fuse block, you can see on the
right hand side the arrow is pointing to a brown
wire with a green stripe. Good so far. Now=
look
what the arrow is pointing at on the other side of
the fuse block. It's a large solid brown wire.&n=
bsp;
Now in the wiring diagram this brown wire is
supposed to be a continuation of the brown with a
green stripe wire. That brown wire with the gree=
n
strip that was supposed to be there goes to the
"A" connection of the voltage regulator. Now loo=
k
at the picture of the voltage regulator and notice
what the orange arrow is pointing at. It is the
other end of the plain, large brown wire! The
electrical connections are correct. The color
coding of the harness is not. I have just starte=
d
wiring. What else might I find in the rest of th=
e
harness? This harness was a gift from my late
friend Tom Rocke. It was one of many free parts
he supplied for this rebuild. Don't know if I
should complain about a free harness.</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Mike MacLean<br>
</div>
</div>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
</div>
<br>
</blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
</div>
</blockquote>
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