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Which is why, If my memory serves me right, the horns are alone on the 50amp
fuse while anything else that is fused shares the single 35amp. (On my
3000).
I never really got my head around that.
From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Bob Spidell
Sent: 20 January 2021 06:01
To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com>; john harper <ah100tech@gmail.com>
Cc: Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Late Monday night rant.
Man, those horns take a lot of juice. That's about the total output--25A,
give or take--of a stock generator (maybe less at idle).
Anybody ever laid on the horns with the lights on?
On 1/19/2021 7:53 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE wrote:
The Brown/Green wire is the power supply for the horn. The brown wire is
connected to an unswitched power source, the A contact on the regulator.
The wires are correct as is the 50 amp Lucas slow blow fuse. Ref: AH 100
Service Manual.
Bill Lawrence
BN1 #554
_____
<healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Bob Spidell
Sent: Tuesday, January 19, 2021 5:51 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Late Monday night rant.
Nope. All wires were otherwise accounted-for; two were 'cross-colored.' The
harness was brand new; I don't know of any that supply extra wiring for
separate turn signals, but I haven't looked (would be a good idea, though).
bs
On 1/19/2021 9:05 AM, john harper wrote:
Bob
Could it be a wrong wire or an additional one?
I and many others in the UK feel that with just two red lights coming on is
very confusing particularly as one enters a corner and brakes. This
confusing array is therefore dangerous. In the UK amber turn lights have
been mandatory for many years. Younger drivers would not understand anything
but amber.
The mod we make for the back of the car is to add amber lights connected on
the existing wires but connect both red stoplights to this additional wire.
At the relay box, all is needed is one wire being redirected to the new
wire.
On Tue, 19 Jan 2021 at 16:10, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net
Michael,
I feel your pain. My dad got a new harness for our BN2 (probably from Moss).
I thought the harness was good quality overall, and everything worked except
the turn signals. I spent 3 days double-checking everything; we went so far
as to open the relay box, but everything looked good in there. I eventually
discovered the wiring to one of the rear brake/turn lights was mis-colored.
This really pissed me off, as I'd wired a bare chassis just from the
schematic and it would have been 100% correct if not for the misidentified
wire. I'll probably never sell the car, but whoever ends up with it will be
confused, as a couple of wires are interchanged from the schematic. Come to
think of it, I should probably label the flaw ... as soon as I finish all
the other stuff needs fixin'.
Bob
On 1/18/2021 11:38 PM, Michael MacLean wrote:
Was in the engine bay doing some preliminary wiring of components tonight.
Specifically, the fuse block and the voltage regulator. Looking at a wiring
diagram, the way you see in the two pictures is mostly correct, but look at
what the arrows are pointing at. At the point in the harness where the
wires come out of the loom for the fuse block, you can see on the right hand
side the arrow is pointing to a brown wire with a green stripe. Good so
far. Now look what the arrow is pointing at on the other side of the fuse
block. It's a large solid brown wire. Now in the wiring diagram this brown
wire is supposed to be a continuation of the brown with a green stripe wire.
That brown wire with the green strip that was supposed to be there goes to
the "A" connection of the voltage regulator. Now look at the picture of the
voltage regulator and notice what the orange arrow is pointing at. It is the
other end of the plain, large brown wire! The electrical connections are
correct. The color coding of the harness is not. I have just started
wiring. What else might I find in the rest of the harness? This harness
was a gift from my late friend Tom Rocke. It was one of many free parts he
supplied for this rebuild. Don't know if I should complain about a free
harness.
Mike MacLean
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style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Which is why, If my memory serves =
me right, the horns are alone on the 50amp fuse while anything else that =
is fused shares the single 35amp. (On my 3000).<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I never =
really got my head around that.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
lang=3DEN-US>From:</span></b><span lang=3DEN-US> Healeys =
<healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bob =
Spidell<br><b>Sent:</b> 20 January 2021 06:01<br><b>To:</b> WILLIAM B =
LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com>; john harper =
<ah100tech@gmail.com><br><b>Cc:</b> Healeys =
<healeys@autox.team.net><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Late =
Monday night rant.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Man, those horns take a lot of juice. =
That's about the total output--25A, give or take--of a stock generator =
(maybe less at idle).<br><br>Anybody ever laid on the horns with the =
lights on? <br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
1/19/2021 7:53 PM, WILLIAM B LAWRENCE =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>The =
Brown/Green wire is the power supply for the horn. The brown wire is =
connected to an unswitched power source, the A contact on the =
regulator.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>The wires are correct as is the =
50 amp Lucas slow blow fuse. Ref: AH 100 Service =
Manual.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>Bill =
Lawrence<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:12.0pt;color:black'>BN1 =
#554<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div class=3DMsoNormal align=3Dcenter =
style=3D'text-align:center'><hr size=3D2 width=3D"98%" =
align=3Dcenter></div><div id=3DdivRplyFwdMsg><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b><span style=3D'color:black'>From:</span></b><span =
style=3D'color:black'> Healeys <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";><healeys-bounces@autox.=
team.net></a> on behalf of Bob Spidell <a =
href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";><bspidell@comcast.net></a><br>=
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, January 19, 2021 5:51 PM<br><b>To:</b> john harper =
<a =
href=3D"mailto:ah100tech@gmail.com";><ah100tech@gmail.com></a><br><b=
>Cc:</b> Healeys <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><healeys@autox.team.net></a>=
<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Late Monday night rant.</span> =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Nope. All wires were =
otherwise accounted-for; two were 'cross-colored.' The harness was brand =
new; I don't know of any that supply extra wiring for separate turn =
signals, but I haven't looked (would be a good idea, =
though).<br>bs<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 1/19/2021 9:05 =
AM, john harper wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Bob <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Could it =
be a wrong wire or an additional one?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
and many others in the UK feel that with just two red lights coming on =
is very confusing particularly as one enters a corner and brakes. This =
confusing array is therefore dangerous. In the UK amber =
turn lights have been mandatory for many years. Younger drivers =
would not understand anything but =
amber.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>The mod we make for the back of the car is to add =
amber lights connected on the existing wires but connect both red =
stoplights to this additional wire. At the relay box, all is needed is =
one wire being redirected to the new wire.<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On =
Tue, 19 Jan 2021 at 16:10, Bob Spidell <<a =
href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>bspidell@comcast.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm =
6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Michael,<br><br>I feel your pain. My dad =
got a new harness for our BN2 (probably from Moss). I thought the =
harness was good quality overall, and everything worked except the turn =
signals. I spent 3 days double-checking everything; we went so far as to =
open the relay box, but everything looked good in there. I eventually =
discovered the wiring to one of the rear brake/turn lights was =
mis-colored. This really pissed me off, as I'd wired a bare chassis just =
from the schematic and it would have been 100% correct if not for the =
misidentified wire. I'll probably never sell the car, but whoever ends =
up with it will be confused, as a couple of wires are interchanged from =
the schematic. Come to think of it, I should probably label the flaw ... =
as soon as I finish all the other stuff needs =
fixin'.<br><br>Bob<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 1/18/2021 =
11:38 PM, Michael MacLean wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Was in the engine bay doing some preliminary wiring of =
components tonight. Specifically, the fuse block and the voltage =
regulator. Looking at a wiring diagram, the way you see in the two =
pictures is mostly correct, but look at what the arrows are pointing =
at. At the point in the harness where the wires come out of the =
loom for the fuse block, you can see on the right hand side the arrow is =
pointing to a brown wire with a green stripe. Good so far. =
Now look what the arrow is pointing at on the other side of the fuse =
block. It's a large solid brown wire. Now in the wiring =
diagram this brown wire is supposed to be a continuation of the brown =
with a green stripe wire. That brown wire with the green strip =
that was supposed to be there goes to the "A" connection of =
the voltage regulator. Now look at the picture of the voltage =
regulator and notice what the orange arrow is pointing at. It is the =
other end of the plain, large brown wire! The electrical =
connections are correct. The color coding of the harness is =
not. I have just started wiring. What else might I find in =
the rest of the harness? This harness was a gift from my late =
friend Tom Rocke. It was one of many free parts he supplied for =
this rebuild. Don't know if I should complain about a free =
harness.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>Mike =
MacLean<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
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