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Re: [Healeys] Horn blowing--BJ8--update

To: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Horn blowing--BJ8--update
From: Curtis Arndt via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 22:30:12 -0700
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Most likely a new wiring harness will solve the problem, an inexpensive
investment in money, if not in time to swap it out.

Curt

On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 7:26 PM Michael MacLean via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Maybe Curt will chime in here.  He's the expert.
> M
>
> On Sunday, July 26, 2020, 7:08:50 PM PDT, Tom Felts <
> tomfelts@windstream.net> wrote:
>
>
> thanks Mike---I have been using that and it is OUTSTANDING.  Thanks for
> the feedback.  Still a little fuzzy on how to orient the cancel part.  I
> did find a bare spot on one wire and covered it.  We will see.
>
> Thanks
> tom
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
> To: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>, Tom Felts <
> Tomfelts@windstream.net>
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Sent: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 22:04:25 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Horn blowing--BJ8--update
>
>
> Tom go to http://www.healey6.com/technical.htm
>
>
>
> Scroll down to trafficator.  Plenty of info there.
>
> On Sunday, July 26, 2020, 3:47:31 PM PDT, Tom Felts via Healeys <
> healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:
>
>
> Thanks for all the feedback-----so far I have removed the business end of
> the trafficator (a real pain to get back together) and found no reason
> there for the horn to blow by itself.  The insides of the trafficator
> needed a good cleaning anyway, the signal light contacts were filthy.
> OK--------put it all back together and still the horn blows when I push the
> wheel forward-------so----guess the next move is to pull it all out of the
> tube and inspect it.
>
> quick question----what is the position of the cancelling piece on the
> metal ring in relation to the two "triggers"?  should that piece be
> centered between the two triggers?  Assume so.  That's where I put it, but
> I'm not getting canceling now.
>
> Great way to spend pandemic time:):)
>
> Tom
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Michael Salter via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> To: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
> Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
> Sent: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 15:43:30 -0400 (EDT)
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Horn blowing--BJ8
>
> Certainly agree with Bob.
> I would think that the stator harness (inside the stator tube which is
> inside the steering shaft which is inside the steering column) is damaged.
> The stator harness can be changed without actually removing the stator
> tube, easier on your car with the adjustable steering wheel,  but it takes
> careful work and some degree of patience.
>
> M
>
>
> On Sun., Jul. 26, 2020, 1:30 p.m. Bob Spidell, <bspidell@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
>
> The horn button grounds the circuit IIRC (the lead is hot). Check
> the connectors out of the steering box, but if it's not that then,
> yeah, you have something exposed to ground somewhere.
>
>
> Bob
>
> On 7/26/2020 8:16 AM, Tom Felts wrote:
>
> When I move the steering wheel in toward the dash, the horn
> blows.  Not caused by the horn button--I have it removed----my
> guess---a bare wire somewhere in the column----or-----?????  Any
> ideas before I pull these wires out of the column with all that
> entails?
>
> Thanks
> tom
>
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Most likely a new wiring harness will solve the problem, a=
n inexpensive investment in money, if not=C2=A0in time to=C2=A0swap it out.=
<div><br></div><div>Curt</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=
=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Sun, Jul 26, 2020 at 7:26 PM Michael MacLe=
an via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.=
team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D=
"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-le=
ft:1ex"><div><div style=3D"font-family:&quot;times new roman&quot;,&quot;ne=
w york&quot;,times,serif;font-size:16px"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">Maybe Curt will chime in here.=C2=A0 He&#39;s the =
expert.</div><div dir=3D"ltr">M<br></div><div><br></div>
       =20
        </div><div id=3D"gmail-m_1232607544510922019yahoo_quoted_6547365718=
">
            <div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;,Helvetica,=
Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)">
               =20
                <div>
                    On Sunday, July 26, 2020, 7:08:50 PM PDT, Tom Felts &lt=
;<a href=3D"mailto:tomfelts@windstream.net"; target=3D"_blank">tomfelts@wind=
stream.net</a>&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"gmail-m_1232607544510922019yiv8365062376"><=
div><div>thanks Mike---I have been using that and it is OUTSTANDING.=C2=A0 =
Thanks for the feedback.=C2=A0 Still a little fuzzy on how to orient the ca=
ncel part.=C2=A0 I did find a bare spot on one wire and covered it.=C2=A0 W=
e will see.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Thanks</div><div>tom</d=
iv><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"gmail-m_1232607544510922019yiv8=
365062376yqt66663"><div>----- Original Message -----<br clear=3D"none">From=
: Michael MacLean &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:rrengineer.mike@att.net"; target=3D"=
_blank">rrengineer.mike@att.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To: Michael Salte=
r &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">michaels=
alter@gmail.com</a>&gt;, Tom Felts &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:Tomfelts@windstrea=
m.net" target=3D"_blank">Tomfelts@windstream.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">=
Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@aut=
ox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none">Sent: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 22:04:25 -0400 (ED=
T)<br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Horn blowing--BJ8--update<br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div style=3D"font-family:=
&quot;times new roman&quot;,&quot;new york&quot;,times,serif;font-size:16px=
"><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Tom go to <a rel=3D"nofoll=
ow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"http://www.healey6.com/technical.htm"; target=3D"=
_blank">http://www.healey6.com/technical.htm</a></div><div><br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr">Scroll down to trafficator.=C2=A0 Plenty of info there.<br clear=
=3D"none"></div></div><div id=3D"gmail-m_1232607544510922019yiv8365062376ya=
hoo_quoted_6181680605"><div style=3D"font-family:&quot;Helvetica Neue&quot;=
,Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><div><br cl=
ear=3D"none"> On Sunday, July 26, 2020, 3:47:31 PM PDT, Tom Felts via Heale=
ys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@=
autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"non=
e"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><div id=3D"gmail-m_123260754451=
0922019yiv8365062376"><div><div>Thanks for all the feedback-----so far I ha=
ve removed the business end of the trafficator (a real pain to get back tog=
ether) and found no reason there for the horn to blow by itself.=C2=A0 The =
insides of the trafficator needed a good cleaning anyway, the signal light =
contacts were filthy.=C2=A0 OK--------put it all back together and still th=
e horn blows when I push the wheel forward-------so----guess the next move =
is to pull it all out of the tube and inspect it.=C2=A0=C2=A0</div><div><br=
 clear=3D"none"></div><div>quick question----what is the position of the ca=
ncelling piece on the metal ring in relation to the two &quot;triggers&quot=
;?=C2=A0 should that piece be centered between the two triggers?=C2=A0 Assu=
me so.=C2=A0 That&#39;s where I put it, but I&#39;m not getting canceling n=
ow.</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Great way to spend pandemic tim=
e:):)</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Tom</div><div><br clear=3D"no=
ne"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div =
id=3D"gmail-m_1232607544510922019yiv8365062376yqtfd08014"><div>----- Origin=
al Message -----<br clear=3D"none">From: Michael Salter via Healeys &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team=
.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">To: Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspide=
ll@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"=
none">Cc: <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">heale=
ys@autox.team.net</a><br clear=3D"none">Sent: Sun, 26 Jul 2020 15:43:30 -04=
00 (EDT)<br clear=3D"none">Subject: Re: [Healeys] Horn blowing--BJ8<br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div><div>Certainly agree wi=
th Bob.<div>I would think that the stator harness (inside the stator tube w=
hich is inside the steering shaft which is inside the steering column) is d=
amaged.=C2=A0</div><div>The stator harness can be changed without actually =
removing the stator tube, easier on your car with the adjustable steering w=
heel,=C2=A0 but it takes careful work and some degree of patience.=C2=A0</d=
iv><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>M</div><br clear=3D"none"><div><br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div><div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun., Jul. 26, 2020, 1:30 p.m. =
Bob Spidell, &lt;<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:bspidell=
@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br clea=
r=3D"none"></div><blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:=
1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><br clear=3D"none"> The h=
orn button grounds the circuit IIRC (the lead is hot). Check<br clear=3D"no=
ne"> the connectors out of the steering box, but if it&#39;s not that then,=
<br clear=3D"none"> yeah, you have something exposed to ground somewhere.<b=
r clear=3D"none"><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><br clear=3D"none"> Bob<br c=
lear=3D"none"><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>On 7/26/2020 8:16 AM, Tom =
Felts wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote><div>When I move the steer=
ing wheel in toward the dash, the horn<br clear=3D"none"> blows.=C2=A0 Not =
caused by the horn button--I have it removed----my<br clear=3D"none"> guess=
---a bare wire somewhere in the column----or-----?????=C2=A0 Any<br clear=
=3D"none"> ideas before I pull these wires out of the column with all that<=
br clear=3D"none"> entails?</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Thanks<=
/div><div>tom</div><br clear=3D"none"></blockquote><br clear=3D"none"></div=
><br clear=3D"none"><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>_________________________=
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