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Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?

To: "Jean Caron" <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com>, "Harold Manifold" <manifold@telus.net>, <warthodson@aol.com>, <050.rpl@gmail.com>, <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?
From: "Ron Fine" <ronfineesq@earthlink.net>
Date: Sat, 11 Jan 2020 09:23:41 -0800
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I was sure I was going to be the first one to have a leak free Healey =
when I rebuilt my engine/transmission in 2004.  It was leak free for the =
first year or so, but, after that I have the usual drips.  I keep a =
piece of cardboard under the car to keep track of the leaks.  I assume =
that age and use just opens up the leaks over time.

Ron Fine



From: Jean Caron=20
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 8:57 AM
To: Harold Manifold ; warthodson@aol.com ; 050.rpl@gmail.com ; =
healeys@autox.team.net=20
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?

Harold,

It is possible to have a leak free Austin-Healey, once the oil has all =
drained out!!!!!!!

=20

Jean

=20

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

=20

From: Harold Manifold
Sent: January 11, 2020 10:53 AM
To: warthodson@aol.com; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak more?

=20

Hello,

=20

All of your observations are a factor. Here are some comments from an =
article about synthetic oil leaks:

=20

Synthetic oil WILL NOT cause leaks. It may however make already worn-out =
gaskets/seals more evident, by leaking past them, and/or cleaning any =
sludge and other gunk that was sealing the existing leak. This is =
because Synthetic oil has much better cleaning properties, flows much =
better than conventional oil, and hence also lubricates much better than =
conventional oil (This is a good thing).

=20

I use a GL-4 synthetic gear oil in my transmission and it leaks. Believe =
it not not one of the leak mechanisms is from the interior along the =
bolts and drips from the bolt head on the exterior. I am changing the =
gaskets on my transmission and trying bonded sealing neoprene washers on =
the fasteners.

=20

I may be pursuing the impossible dream of a leak free Healey.... Harold

=20



From: warthodson@aol.com [mailto:warthodson@aol.com]=20
Sent: Saturday, January 11, 2020 7:24 AM
To: manifold@telus.net; 050.rpl@gmail.com; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Does synthetic oil leak more?

I am not a leak expert, but I find this hard to understand. For there to =
be a leak there has to be a hole. Is it because the synthetic oil =
molecules are smaller than the non-synthetic oil molecules? Given that =
the "holes" come in different sizes this seems illogical. Is it because =
the synthetic oil is more slippery? How is that measured? How much more =
slippery is it? =20

Gary Hodson

-----Original Message-----
From: Harold Manifold <manifold@telus.net>
To: 'R. Lindsay' <050.rpl@gmail.com>; 'Healey List' =
<healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2020 7:55 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Rear Axle Oil


The biggest difference you will notice with synthetic gear oils is they =
leak
more than non-synthetic.=20

=20



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<DIV>I was sure I was going to be the first one to have a leak free =
Healey when=20
I rebuilt my engine/transmission in 2004.&nbsp; It was leak free for the =
first=20
year or so, but, after that I have the usual drips.&nbsp; I keep a piece =
of=20
cardboard under the car to keep track of the leaks.&nbsp; I assume that =
age and=20
use just opens up the leaks over time.</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>Ron Fine</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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<DIV style=3D"font-color: black"><B>From:</B> <A=20
title=3Dvintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com>Jean Caron</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 11, 2020 8:57 AM</DIV>
<DIV><B>To:</B> <A title=3Dmanifold@telus.net>Harold Manifold</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dwarthodson@aol.com>warthodson@aol.com</A> ; <A=20
title=3D050.rpl@gmail.com>050.rpl@gmail.com</A> ; <A=20
title=3Dhealeys@autox.team.net>healeys@autox.team.net</A> </DIV>
<DIV><B>Subject:</B> Re: [Healeys] Does synthetic oil leak=20
more?</DIV></DIV></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV></DIV>
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<P class=3DMsoNormal>Harold,</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>It is possible to have a leak free Austin-Healey, =
once the=20
oil has all drained out!!!!!!!</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Jean</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Sent from <A=20
href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986";>Mail</A> for =
Windows=20
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0cm"><B>From:=20
</B><A>Harold Manifold</A><BR><B>Sent: </B>January 11, 2020 10:53 =
AM<BR><B>To:=20
</B><A>warthodson@aol.com</A>; <A>050.rpl@gmail.com</A>;=20
<A>healeys@autox.team.net</A><BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [Healeys] Does =
synthetic=20
oil leak more?</P></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: =
blue'>Hello,</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: =
blue'>All of=20
your observations are a factor. Here are some comments from an article =
about=20
synthetic oil leaks:</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>Synthetic oil WILL NOT cause leaks. It may however =
make=20
already worn-out gaskets/seals more evident, by leaking past them, =
and/or=20
cleaning any sludge and other gunk that was sealing the existing leak. =
This is=20
because Synthetic oil has much better cleaning properties, flows much =
better=20
than conventional oil, and hence also lubricates much better than =
conventional=20
oil (This is a good thing).<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: =
blue'>I use a=20
GL-4 synthetic gear oil in my transmission and it leaks. Believe it not =
not one=20
of the leak mechanisms is from the interior along the bolts and drips =
from the=20
bolt head on the exterior. I am changing the gaskets on my transmission =
and=20
trying bonded sealing neoprene washers on the =
fasteners.</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal>&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: =
blue'>I may be=20
pursuing the impossible dream of a leak free Healey....=20
Harold</SPAN><o:p></o:p></P>
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lang=3DEN-US style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: =
"Tahoma",sans-serif'>=20
warthodson@aol.com [mailto:warthodson@aol.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> =
Saturday,=20
January 11, 2020 7:24 AM<BR><B>To:</B> manifold@telus.net; =
050.rpl@gmail.com;=20
healeys@autox.team.net<BR><B>Subject:</B> Does synthetic oil leak=20
more?</SPAN><SPAN lang=3DEN-US><o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: =
black'>I am not=20
a leak expert, but I find this hard to understand. For there to be a =
leak there=20
has to be a hole. Is it because the synthetic oil molecules are smaller =
than the=20
non-synthetic oil molecules? Given that the "holes" come in different =
sizes this=20
seems illogical. Is it because the synthetic oil is more slippery? How =
is that=20
measured? How much more slippery is it?&nbsp; <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: =
black'>Gary=20
Hodson<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal style=3D"MARGIN-BOTTOM: 12pt"><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: =
black'>-----Original=20
Message-----<BR>From: Harold Manifold &lt;manifold@telus.net&gt;<BR>To: =
'R.=20
Lindsay' &lt;050.rpl@gmail.com&gt;; 'Healey List'=20
&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<BR>Sent: Fri, Jan 10, 2020 7:55 =
pm<BR>Subject:=20
Re: [Healeys] Rear Axle Oil<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P></DIV></DIV></DIV>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><SPAN=20
style=3D'FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: "Arial",sans-serif; COLOR: =
black'><BR>The=20
biggest difference you will notice with synthetic gear oils is they =
leak<BR>more=20
than non-synthetic. <o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class=3DMsoNormal><o:p></o:p>&nbsp;</P></DIV>
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