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In the movie, although there wasn't much technical explanation, it appeared=
that they removed and replaced the entire suspension upright assembly with=
new stub axles, hubs, rotors and calipers in place. I was thinking they mu=
st have used some kind of quick connect on the brake lines with a quick ble=
eder in place.
Bill Lawrence
BN1 #554
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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Alan Seigrist <=
healey.nut@gmail.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2019 3:22 AM
To: jim <ab7vf@yahoo.com>
Cc: Healey list <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Ford versus Ferrari
as long as you are removing the brake pads and not the calipers, no need bl=
eed anything. Honestly with some practice on the BJ8, with a full pit crew=
, you could probably remove and replace the rotors and pads in 5 min or les=
s if assemblies were ready.
On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 2:43 AM jim via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net<mai=
lto:healeys@autox.team.net>> wrote:
Changing "rotors" ..Changing "pads" ...Changing "calipers" ...Not equivalen=
t
the ONLY time I need to open the fluid lines is when I have to change "cal=
ipers"
All the caliper change directions I have seen advise to prefill/pre bleed c=
aliper before fitting
Heat? ...Use a CO2 extinguisher (you do have a current certified one in you=
r shop) ...I do
change pads .. c clamp to press piston back into caliper (use a large screw=
driver/pry bar if you are changing pads/rotors)
fluid will flow back into reservoir ...If you don't want the crud from the =
caliper back into the system, crack the bleeder valve..
ditto for changing rotors
Remove 2 pins to change pads//remove 2 bolts to change rotors/pads
suspend "caliper" from ? to avoid kinking/twisting flex line
remove/replace rotors ..
remove/replace pads ..
Piece o' cake (go to Les Schwab and watch how they do it)
Jim
On Friday, December 13, 2019, 5:01:27 PM UTC, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast=
I wondered that myself. Maybe some sort of check valve on the brake lines=
and pre-filled calipers, allowing bleeding with just a couple quick pumps =
on the brake pedal?
Of course, it was a movie, so maybe it was the figment of some screenpaly w=
riter's imagination?
Bob
On 12/13/2019 7:01 AM, Linwood Rose via Healeys wrote:
For those who saw the movie "Ford versus Ferrari." On the Phil Remington qu=
ick change rotor/caliper assembly, how do they avoid having to bleed the br=
akes?
Just curious.
Lin
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In the movie, although there wasn't much technical explanation, it appeared=
that they removed and replaced the entire suspension upright assembly with=
new stub axles, hubs, rotors and calipers in place. I was thinking they mu=
st have used some kind of quick
connect on the brake lines with a quick bleeder in place.</div>
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Bill Lawrence</div>
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BN1 #554</div>
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om><br>
<b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, December 18, 2019 3:22 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> jim <ab7vf@yahoo.com><br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">as long as you are removing the brake pads and not the cal=
ipers, no need bleed anything. Honestly with some practice on the BJ8=
, with a full pit crew, you could probably remove and replace the rotors an=
d pads in 5 min or less if assemblies were
ready.
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gmail_attr">On Sun, Dec 15, 2019 at 2:43 AM jim=
via Healeys <<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.te=
am.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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erif; font-size:13px">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Changing "rotors" ..Changing "pads" ..=
.Changing "calipers" ...Not equivalent
<br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"> the ONLY time I need to open the fluid lines is when=
I have to change "calipers"</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">All the caliper change directions I have seen advise to pr=
efill/pre bleed caliper before fitting<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Heat? ...Use a CO2 extinguisher (you do have a current cer=
tified one in your shop) ...I do</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">change pads .. c clamp to press piston back into caliper (=
use a large screwdriver/pry bar if you are changing pads/rotors)</div>
<div>fluid will flow back into reservoir ...If you don't want the crud from=
the caliper back into the system, crack the bleeder valve..</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">ditto for changing rotors <br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Remove 2 pins to change pads//remove 2 bolts to change rot=
ors/pads</div>
<br>
<div dir=3D"ltr">suspend "caliper" from ? to avoid kinking/twisti=
ng flex line</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">remove/replace rotors ..</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">remove/replace pads ..<br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Piece o' cake (go to Les Schwab and watch how they do it)<=
/div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">Jim<br>
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<div>I wondered that myself. Maybe some sort of check valve on =
the brake lines and pre-filled calipers, allowing bleeding with just a coup=
le quick pumps on the brake pedal?<br>
<br>
Of course, it was a movie, so maybe it was the figment of some screenpaly w=
riter's imagination?<br>
<br>
Bob<br>
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<div>On 12/13/2019 7:01 AM, Linwood Rose via Healeys wrote:<br>
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<div><span style=3D"font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; letter-spacing:n=
ormal; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal; word-spaci=
ng:0px; text-decoration:none; color:rgb(38,40,42); font-family:"Helvet=
ica Neue",Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size:13px; background-color=
:rgb(255,255,255); float:none; display:inline">For
those who saw the movie "Ford versus Ferrari." On the Phil Remin=
gton quick change rotor/caliper assembly, how do they avoid having to bleed=
the brakes?</span><br style=3D"font-style:normal; font-weight:normal; lett=
er-spacing:normal; text-indent:0px; text-transform:none; white-space:normal=
; word-spacing:0px; text-decoration:none; color:rgb(38,40,42); font-family:=
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