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I=E2=80=99m awake at sill o clock watching our General Election results so y=
ou are getting a response from a Brit at an unusual time.
Just chiming in to agree strongly with Michael. The phrase =E2=80=98consiste=
ntly generic and simplistic=E2=80=99 is absolutely correct.
Cheers team.
Alan - from my iPad
> On 13 Dec 2019, at 00:07, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20
> =EF=BB=BF
> John, I could not agree with more with everything you have said.=20
> Concours may not be for everyone but to characterize it as "bullshit" is a=
profound insult to the dozens of dedicated individuals who believe in the a=
ccurate preservation of the marque.
> For years I found Kees contributions to this list to be consistently simpl=
istic and generic and was very gratified to find that Gmail provides an easy=
way to block his drivel.=20
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> M
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>> On Thu, Dec 12, 2019, 11:27 AM John P. New, <jnew@hazelden.ca> wrote:
>> Kees,
>>=20
>> Your statement, "All this concourse stuff is bullshit," really makes me a=
ngry.
>>=20
>> I have been a member of this list for almost twenty years and I have seen=
you write some really inaccurate things about Healeys but this takes the ca=
ke. Indeed, even the late Richard Chrysler once told you on this list to kee=
p your uninformed opinions on Austin-Healeys to yourself.
>>=20
>> The Concours Guidelines (and *please* spell concours properly) is one of t=
he few secondary sources of information that can help in the preservation an=
d restoration of an Austin-Healey. I would say that in many ways it is THE B=
EST secondary source because it is updated annually as new information is ga=
thered. No publication is without errors, so even great books by such author=
s as Clausager or Moment & Anderson do contain factual inaccuracies that may=
mislead a restoration. (To be fair to Moment & Anderson, they keep a list o=
f errata for their book, available for the asking)
>>=20
>> If you think Concours is about trailer queens and awards, then you just h=
ave no clue why the organization exists. To quote the very first sentence of=
the Austin-Healey Concours Registry Organization, Policies and Inspection G=
uidelines,
>>=20
>> "The Austin-Healey Concours Registry was created by members from a number=
of Austin-Healey clubs in North America to assist owners in restoring their=
cars to original standards and to encourage the restoration and maintenance=
of original cars."
>>=20
>> This sums up the entire mission of the Registry. Please note that the wor=
d "bullshit" does not appear there nor anywhere else in the publication.
>>=20
>> So, following in the footsteps of Richard Chrysler: Kees, please keep you=
r baseless, uninformed opinions on Austin-Healeys to yourself.
>>=20
>> John P. New
>> London, Ontario, Canada
>>=20
>>=20
>> On Thursday, December 12, 2019 2:35:33 AM EST Kees Oudesluijs wrote:
>> > That looks very neat and tidy. Time to get it dirty. However fit some=20=
>> > air filters in a cold box first. Avoid the foam affairs because of=20
>> > severe fire risk. These cars are for driving. All this concourse stuff=20=
>> > is bullshit. Use them, make them safe to drive in modern traffic and=20=
>> > enjoy them. We have friends that use their A-H cars as a daily driver=20=
>> > and rebuild the car every so often if and when extensive repairs are=20=
>> > needed.
>> >=20
>> > To many concourse trailer queens about that may not even be fit for dri=
ving.
>> >=20
>> > Kees Oudesluijs
>> >=20
>> >=20
>> >=20
>> > Op 12-12-2019 om 04:05 schreef richard mayor:
>> > > The 1960 BT7 that I have been working on is not concours. I can't go=20=
>> > > into details right now but here's a photo of the engine compartment.
>> > >
>> > > DSCN4470 (1).jpg
>> > >
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">I=E2=80=99m awake at sill o clock watching o=
ur General Election results so you are getting a response from a Brit at an u=
nusual time.<div>Just chiming in to agree strongly with Michael. The phrase =E2=
=80=98consistently generic and simplistic=E2=80=99 is absolutely correct.</d=
iv><div>Cheers team.<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Alan - from my iPad</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On 13 Dec 2019, at 00:07, Michael S=
alter <michaelsalter@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><bloc=
kquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"auto">John, I cou=
ld not agree with more with everything you have said. <div dir=3D"auto"=
>Concours may not be for everyone but to characterize it as "bullshit" is a p=
rofound insult to the dozens of dedicated individuals who believe in the acc=
urate preservation of the marque.</div><div dir=3D"auto">For years I found K=
ees contributions to this list to be consistently simplistic and generic and=
was very gratified to find that Gmail provides an easy way to block his dri=
vel. </div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">M</div></div><=
br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, D=
ec 12, 2019, 11:27 AM John P. New, <<a href=3D"mailto:jnew@hazelden.ca";>j=
new@hazelden.ca</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" st=
yle=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Kees,<=
br>
<br>
Your statement, "All this concourse stuff is bullshit," really makes me angr=
y.<br>
<br>
I have been a member of this list for almost twenty years and I have seen yo=
u write some really inaccurate things about Healeys but this takes the cake.=
Indeed, even the late Richard Chrysler once told you on this list to keep y=
our uninformed opinions on Austin-Healeys to yourself.<br>
<br>
The Concours Guidelines (and *please* spell concours properly) is one of the=
few secondary sources of information that can help in the preservation and r=
estoration of an Austin-Healey. I would say that in many ways it is THE BEST=
secondary source because it is updated annually as new information is gathe=
red. No publication is without errors, so even great books by such authors a=
s Clausager or Moment & Anderson do contain factual inaccuracies that ma=
y mislead a restoration. (To be fair to Moment & Anderson, they keep a l=
ist of errata for their book, available for the asking)<br>
<br>
If you think Concours is about trailer queens and awards, then you just have=
no clue why the organization exists. To quote the very first sentence of th=
e Austin-Healey Concours Registry Organization, Policies and Inspection Guid=
elines,<br>
<br>
"The Austin-Healey Concours Registry was created by members from a number of=
Austin-Healey clubs in North America to assist owners in restoring their ca=
rs to original standards and to encourage the restoration and maintenance of=
original cars."<br>
<br>
This sums up the entire mission of the Registry. Please note that the word "=
bullshit" does not appear there nor anywhere else in the publication.<br>
<br>
So, following in the footsteps of Richard Chrysler: Kees, please keep your b=
aseless, uninformed opinions on Austin-Healeys to yourself.<br>
<br>
John P. New<br>
London, Ontario, Canada<br>
<br>
<br>
On Thursday, December 12, 2019 2:35:33 AM EST Kees Oudesluijs wrote:<br>
> That looks very neat and tidy. Time to get it dirty. However fit some <=
br>
> air filters in a cold box first. Avoid the foam affairs because of <br>=
> severe fire risk. These cars are for driving. All this concourse stuff <=
br>
> is bullshit. Use them, make them safe to drive in modern traffic and <b=
r>
> enjoy them. We have friends that use their A-H cars as a daily driver <=
br>
> and rebuild the car every so often if and when extensive repairs are <b=
r>
> needed.<br>
> <br>
> To many concourse trailer queens about that may not even be fit for dri=
ving.<br>
> <br>
> Kees Oudesluijs<br>
> <br>
> <br>
> <br>
> Op 12-12-2019 om 04:05 schreef richard mayor:<br>
> > The 1960 BT7 that I have been working on is not concours. I can't g=
o <br>
> > into details right now but here's a photo of the engine compartmen=
t.<br>
> ><br>
> > DSCN4470 (1).jpg<br>
> ><br>
> ><br>
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