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Re: [Healeys] Kenlowe

To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com>, Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Kenlowe
From: jim via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 06:32:33 +0000 (UTC)
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 If you look 'closely' at these plastic fans, you can see a concave side an=
d a convex side on the fan blades...It really IS an airfoil=C2=A0 and no ju=
st mechanically swapping the fan around won't change the blow/suck directio=
n
Jim

    On Tuesday, November 12, 2019, 3:32:53 AM UTC, Michael Salter <michaels=
alter@gmail.com> wrote: =20
=20
 So just to be clear ...=C2=A0=20

You have fan, you take the blade assembly off the shaft, flip the blade ass=
embly over and reinstall it onto the shaft and then, when the fan blades ar=
e driven in the same direction of rotation direction as previously the air =
movement will be reversed?
The miracles of modern science.
M


On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:56 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com> wrote:

Absolutely not. The blades are designed to provide highest efficiency when =
turning in one direction with relation to the air flow. The blades are airf=
oils and use Bernoulli's principles to move air and build static pressure. =
An aircraft wing doesn't produce much lift if it is flying backwards. You c=
an still move air if the blade is turning in the wrong direction, but it wo=
n't be nearly as efficient.
Bill LawrenceBN1 #544From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2019 1:36 AM
To: WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>; simon.lachlan@alexarev=
el.plus.com <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Kenlowe=C2=A0For best results you may also want to r=
emove the fan blade assembly and turn it around on the shaft=C2=A0You are k=
idding right?
M
On Mon, Nov 11, 2019, 7:48 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE, <ynotink@msn.com> wrote:

I don't have experience with Kenlowe, but I assume (and realize there is da=
nger in that word) that these fans are all pretty much the same. That being=
 said the direction, and therefore the flow of the fan can be reversed by s=
witching the wires. For best results you may also want to remove the fan bl=
ade assembly and turn it around on the shaft since most of the newer fans u=
se a =C2=A0backward curved blade design for optimum efficiency.
Bill LawrenceBN1 #554From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on beha=
lf of Larry Wendland via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sunday, November 10, 2019 3:02 PM
To: simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>;h=
ealeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Kenlowe=C2=A0Simon, I Googled Kenlowe and it showed =
it has a two wire lead.=C2=A0 You can wire it up as you please. Just check =
the two wires with a volt-ohm meter to see if either one is common to the f=
an housing. If not, then the motor to the fan is isolated from its housing.=
 Should be no issue if it is isolated.=20
Larry '67 BJ8


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From: simon.lachlan <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>
To: 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Sun, Nov 10, 2019 7:38 am
Subject: [Healeys] Kenlowe



Hi Experts,
I have a 3000. It is Negative earth.
I have an opportunity to buy a Kenlowe, second hand, at a very good price. =
It is Positive earth.
I imagine that, if I reverse the wires, the fan will run the other way. Tha=
t=E2=80=99s all very well=E2=80=A6.goes round and round but will, in effect=
, be pulling the air rather than pushing. Which is useless.
Is there a solution? Apart from not buying it!
Simon
=C2=A0=C2=A0

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=3D"font-family: Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif; font-size: 1=
3px;"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">If you look 'closely' at the=
se plastic fans, you can see a concave side and a convex side on the fan bl=
ades...It really IS an airfoil&nbsp; and no just mechanically swapping the =
fan around won't change the blow/suck direction</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-=
setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Jim<br></=
div><div><br></div>
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66dca6yahoo_quoted">
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                    On Tuesday, November 12, 2019, 3:32:53 AM UTC, Michael =
Salter &lt;michaelsalter@gmail.com&gt; wrote:
                </div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"ydp3e66dca6yiv4907571580"><div><div dir=3D"=
ltr"><div class=3D"ydp3e66dca6yiv4907571580gmail_default" style=3D"font-fam=
ily:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;">So just to be clear ...&nbs=
p; <br clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"ydp3e66dca6yiv4907571580gmail_def=
ault" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;"><br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"ydp3e66dca6yiv4907571580gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;">You have fa=
n, you take the blade assembly off the shaft, flip the blade assembly over =
and reinstall it onto the shaft and then, when the fan blades are driven in=
 the same direction of rotation direction as previously the air movement wi=
ll be reversed?</div><div class=3D"ydp3e66dca6yiv4907571580gmail_default" s=
tyle=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;"><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"ydp3e66dca6yiv4907571580gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;">The miracles of=
 modern science.</div><div class=3D"ydp3e66dca6yiv4907571580gmail_default" =
style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;"><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div class=3D"ydp3e66dca6yiv4907571580gmail_default" style=
=3D"font-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;">M<br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div class=3D"ydp3e66dca6yiv4907571580gmail_default" style=3D"fo=
nt-family:comic sans ms, sans-serif;font-size:small;"><br clear=3D"none"></=
div></div><br clear=3D"none"><div class=3D"ydp3e66dca6yiv4907571580yqt86795=
20621" id=3D"ydp3e66dca6yiv4907571580yqt69980"><div class=3D"ydp3e66dca6yiv=
4907571580gmail_quote"><div class=3D"ydp3e66dca6yiv4907571580gmail_attr" di=
r=3D"ltr">On Mon, Nov 11, 2019 at 9:56 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE &lt;<a shape=
=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:ynotink@msn.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank=
">ynotink@msn.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none"></div><blockquote class=
=3D"ydp3e66dca6yiv4907571580gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">




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<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);">
Absolutely not. The blades are designed to provide highest efficiency when =
turning in one direction with relation to the air flow. The blades are airf=
oils and use Bernoulli's principles to move air and build static pressure. =
An aircraft wing doesn't produce
 much lift if it is flying backwards. You can still move air if the blade i=
s turning in the wrong direction, but it won't be nearly as efficient.</div=
>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);">
<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);">
Bill Lawrence</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);">
BN1 #544</div>
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divRplyFwdMsg"><font style=3D"font-size:11pt;" face=3D"Calibri, sans-serif"=
 color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Michael Salter &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=
=3D"mailto:michaelsalter@gmail.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">mich=
aelsalter@gmail.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 12, 2019 1:36 AM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> WILLIAM B LAWRENCE &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:ynotink@=
msn.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">ynotink@msn.com</a>&gt;<br clea=
r=3D"none">
<b>Cc:</b> <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"=
nofollow" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a> &lt;<a shape=3D"rect=
" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank"=
>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;; <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:simon.lac=
hlan@alexarevel.plus.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">simon.lachlan@=
alexarevel.plus.com</a> &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@=
alexarevel.plus.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">simon.lachlan@alexa=
revel.plus.com</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Kenlowe</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family:calibri, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16=
px;"><i><b>For best results you may also want to remove the fan blade assem=
bly and turn it around on the shaft&nbsp;</b></i></span>
<div><span style=3D"font-family:calibri, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16=
px;">You are kidding right?</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family:calibri, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16=
px;"><br clear=3D"none">
</span></div>
<div><span style=3D"font-family:calibri, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:16=
px;">M</span></div>
</div>
<br clear=3D"none">
<div>
<div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Nov 11, 2019, 7:48 PM WILLIAM B LAWRENCE, &lt;<a s=
hape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:ynotink@msn.com"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_b=
lank">ynotink@msn.com</a>&gt; wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<blockquote style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204=
,204,204);padding-left:1ex;">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);">
I don't have experience with Kenlowe, but I assume (and realize there is da=
nger in that word) that these fans are all pretty much the same. That being=
 said the direction, and therefore the flow of the fan can be reversed by s=
witching the wires. For best results
 you may also want to remove the fan blade assembly and turn it around on t=
he shaft since most of the newer fans use a &nbsp;backward curved blade des=
ign for optimum efficiency.</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);">
<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);">
Bill Lawrence</div>
<div style=3D"font-family:Calibri, Helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:12pt;col=
or:rgb(0,0,0);">
BN1 #554</div>
<div id=3D"ydp3e66dca6yiv4907571580gmail-m_-3995092382161880280x_m_69961163=
59825565842appendonsend"></div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr" id=3D"ydp3e66dca6yiv4907571580gmail-m_-3995092382161880280=
x_m_6996116359825565842divRplyFwdMsg"><font style=3D"font-size:11pt;" face=
=3D"Calibri, sans-serif" color=3D"#000000"><b>From:</b> Healeys &lt;<a shap=
e=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" =
target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt;
 on behalf of Larry Wendland via Healeys &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mail=
to:healeys@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox=
.team.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 10, 2019 3:02 PM<br clear=3D"none">
<b>To:</b> <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.c=
om" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">
simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a> &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:=
simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">simon=
.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt;;
<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" t=
arget=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a> &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"m=
ailto:healeys@autox.team.net" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">healeys@au=
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Kenlowe</font>
<div>&nbsp;</div>
</div>
<div><font size=3D"2"><span style=3D"font-size:11pt;">
</span></font><div>Simon, I Googled Kenlowe and it showed it has a two wire=
 lead.&nbsp; You can wire it up as you please. Just check the two wires wit=
h a volt-ohm meter to see if either one is common to the fan housing. If no=
t, then the motor to the fan is isolated from its housing.
 Should be no issue if it is isolated. <br clear=3D"none">
Larry '67 BJ8<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
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arevel.plus.com" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">simon.lachlan@alexareve=
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To: 'Healeys' &lt;<a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
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Sent: Sun, Nov 10, 2019 7:38 am<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: [Healeys] Kenlowe<br clear=3D"none">
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<br clear=3D"none">
Hi Experts,<br clear=3D"none">
I have a 3000. It is Negative earth.<br clear=3D"none">
I have an opportunity to buy a Kenlowe, second hand, at a very good price. =
It is Positive earth.<br clear=3D"none">
I imagine that, if I reverse the wires, the fan will run the other way. Tha=
t=E2=80=99s all very well=E2=80=A6.goes round and round but will, in effect=
, be pulling the air rather than pushing. Which is useless.<br clear=3D"non=
e">
Is there a solution? Apart from not buying it!<br clear=3D"none">
Simon<br clear=3D"none">
&nbsp;&nbsp;<br clear=3D"none">
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