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Re: [Healeys] Kenlowe

To: Perry <healeyguy@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Kenlowe
From: Michael Salter <michaelsalter@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Nov 2019 08:41:24 -0500
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 "it mentions, along with flipping the blade, that the polarity is switched
also."
Ahh there is the difference ... I you have ever worked with model
aeroplanes you will be well aware that flipping the prop over does not
reverse the direction of airflow, just makes it less efficient.

M


On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 8:26 AM Perry via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
wrote:

> Just took a new Flex-A-Lite 12 inch Model 111 electric fan off the shelf
> in the garage to see how Flex A Lite handles the flan blade issue.  It us=
es
> the =E2=80=9Ccurved=E2=80=9D blade design. They have different model numb=
ers for pusher and
> puller applications.
>
>  However there is a  video on their web site that talks about removing an=
d
> reversing the fan blade on a =E2=80=9Cstraight=E2=80=9D blade fan to conv=
ert from pusher to
> puller. In the video it mentions, along with flipping the blade, that the
> polarity is switched also.
>
>
>
>
> https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=3Dflex+a+lite+how+to+convert+pusher+=
to+puller&docid=3D608054440764244813&mid=3DBAFA7064871FDDED725FBAFA7064871F=
DDED725F&view=3Ddetail&FORM=3DVIREHT
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986> for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
> *Sent: *Tuesday, November 12, 2019 5:39 AM
> *To: *'WILLIAM B LAWRENCE' <ynotink@msn.com>; 'Larry Wendland via Healeys=
'
> <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [Healeys] Kenlowe
>
>
>
> This is one of two topics raised in my original post. See:-
>
> =E2=80=9CI imagine that, if I reverse the wires, the fan will run the oth=
er way.
> That=E2=80=99s all very well=E2=80=A6.goes round and round but will, in e=
ffect, be pulling
> the air rather than pushing. Which is useless. Is there a solution?=E2=80=
=9D
>
> Looking at the photos, it seemed to me that the blades had a particular
> shape and that it was not symmetrical one side to the other. So I sort of
> assumed that reversing the direction would not be the whole solution.
>
> Whilst I should like to be sure of this before I commit to a fan, it does
> seem that the blades have that very particular design for a reason.
>
> Of course, when/if I buy the fan, it may not be physically possible to
> reverse the blades!
>
> Keep it coming!
>
> Simon
>
>
>
>
>
> *From:* WILLIAM B LAWRENCE <ynotink@msn.com>
> *Sent:* 12 November 2019 00:49
> *To:* Larry Wendland via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>;
> simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Kenlowe
>
>
>
> I don't have experience with Kenlowe, but I assume (and realize there is
> danger in that word) that these fans are all pretty much the same. That
> being said the direction, and therefore the flow of the fan can be revers=
ed
> by switching the wires. For best results you may also want to remove the
> fan blade assembly and turn it around on the shaft since most of the newe=
r
> fans use a  backward curved blade design for optimum efficiency.
>
>
>
> Bill Lawrence
>
> BN1 #554
>
> *From:* Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Larry
> Wendland via Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Sent:* Sunday, November 10, 2019 3:02 PM
> *To:* simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.co=
m>;
> healeys@autox.team.net <healeys@autox.team.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Kenlowe
>
>
>
> Simon, I Googled Kenlowe and it showed it has a two wire lead.  You can
> wire it up as you please. Just check the two wires with a volt-ohm meter =
to
> see if either one is common to the fan housing. If not, then the motor to
> the fan is isolated from its housing. Should be no issue if it is isolate=
d.
> Larry '67 BJ8
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: simon.lachlan <simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com>
> To: 'Healeys' <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Sun, Nov 10, 2019 7:38 am
> Subject: [Healeys] Kenlowe
>
>
>
> Hi Experts,
> I have a 3000. It is Negative earth.
> I have an opportunity to buy a Kenlowe, second hand, at a very good price=
.
> It is Positive earth.
> I imagine that, if I reverse the wires, the fan will run the other way.
> That=E2=80=99s all very well=E2=80=A6.goes round and round but will, in e=
ffect, be pulling
> the air rather than pushing. Which is useless.
> Is there a solution? Apart from not buying it!
>
>
>
> Simon
>
>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sa=
ns ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">=C2=A0<font size=3D"4">&quot;it mentions,=
 along with flipping the blade, that the polarity is switched also.&quot;</=
font></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,=
sans-serif;font-size:small"><font size=3D"4"><font size=3D"2">Ahh there is =
the difference ... I you have ever worked with model aeroplanes you will be=
 well aware that flipping the prop over does not reverse the direction of a=
irflow, just makes it less efficient.</font></font></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><=
font size=3D"4"><font size=3D"2"><br></font></font></div><div class=3D"gmai=
l_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small"><=
font size=3D"4"><font size=3D"2">M</font><br></font></div><div class=3D"gma=
il_default" style=3D"font-family:comic sans ms,sans-serif;font-size:small">=
<font size=3D"4"><br>
</font></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D=
"gmail_attr">On Tue, Nov 12, 2019 at 8:26 AM Perry via Healeys &lt;<a href=
=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br=
></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;=
border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div lang=3D"EN-US=
"><div class=3D"gmail-m_-7074989153366190104WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal">Just took a new Flex-A-Lite 12 inch Model 111 electric fan off the sh=
elf in the garage to see how Flex A Lite handles the flan blade issue.=C2=
=A0 It uses the =E2=80=9Ccurved=E2=80=9D blade design. They have different =
model numbers for pusher and puller applications. </p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
">=C2=A0However there is a =C2=A0video on their web site that talks about r=
emoving and reversing the fan blade on a =E2=80=9Cstraight=E2=80=9D blade f=
an to convert from pusher to puller. In the video it mentions, along with f=
lipping the blade, that the polarity is switched also.</p><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a href=3D"https://www=
.bing.com/videos/search?q=3Dflex+a+lite+how+to+convert+pusher+to+puller&amp=
;docid=3D608054440764244813&amp;mid=3DBAFA7064871FDDED725FBAFA7064871FDDED7=
25F&amp;view=3Ddetail&amp;FORM=3DVIREHT" target=3D"_blank">https://www.bing=
.com/videos/search?q=3Dflex+a+lite+how+to+convert+pusher+to+puller&amp;doci=
d=3D608054440764244813&amp;mid=3DBAFA7064871FDDED725FBAFA7064871FDDED725F&a=
mp;view=3Ddetail&amp;FORM=3DVIREHT</a></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.micros=
oft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986" target=3D"_blank">Mail</a> for Windows 10<=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><div style=3D"border-colo=
r:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentcolor;border-style:solid none none;b=
order-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" s=
tyle=3D"border:medium none;padding:0in"><b>From: </b><a href=3D"mailto:simo=
n.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" target=3D"_blank">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.p=
lus.com</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, November 12, 2019 5:39 AM<br><b>To: </=
b><a href=3D"mailto:ynotink@msn.com"; target=3D"_blank">&#39;WILLIAM B LAWRE=
NCE&#39;</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">&=
#39;Larry Wendland via Healeys&#39;</a><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Ke=
nlowe</p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p><p class=3D"M=
soNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">This is one of two topics raised in my origi=
nal post. See:-<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"EN-GB">=E2=80=9CI imagine that, if I reverse the wires, the fan will ru=
n the other way. That=E2=80=99s all very well=E2=80=A6.goes round and round=
 but will, in effect, be pulling the air rather than pushing. Which is usel=
ess. Is there a solution?=E2=80=9D <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Looking at the photos, it seemed to me that th=
e blades had a particular shape and that it was not symmetrical one side to=
 the other. So I sort of assumed that reversing the direction would not be =
the whole solution. <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span l=
ang=3D"EN-GB">Whilst I should like to be sure of this before I commit to a =
fan, it does seem that the blades have that very particular design for a re=
ason.<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">O=
f course, when/if I buy the fan, it may not be physically possible to rever=
se the blades! <u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=
=3D"EN-GB">Keep it coming!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" s=
tyle=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Simon<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span>=
</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span>=
</p><div><div style=3D"border-color:rgb(225,225,225) currentcolor currentco=
lor;border-style:solid none none;border-width:1pt medium medium;padding:3pt=
 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> WILLIAM B LAWRENCE &lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:ynotink@msn.com"; target=3D"_blank">ynotink@msn.com</a>&gt; <br>=
<b>Sent:</b> 12 November 2019 00:49<br><b>To:</b> Larry Wendland via Healey=
s &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">healeys@a=
utox.team.net</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"=
 target=3D"_blank">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b>=
 Re: [Healeys] Kenlowe<u></u><u></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black" lang=3D"EN-GB">I don&#39;t =
have experience with Kenlowe, but I assume (and realize there is danger in =
that word) that these fans are all pretty much the same. That being said th=
e direction, and therefore the flow of the fan can be reversed by switching=
 the wires. For best results you may also want to remove the fan blade asse=
mbly and turn it around on the shaft since most of the newer fans use a =C2=
=A0backward curved blade design for optimum efficiency.<u></u><u></u></span=
></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:=
black" lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black" lang=3D"EN-GB">Bill =
Lawrence<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:12pt;color:black" lang=3D"EN-GB">BN1 #554<u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align:center" align=3D"c=
enter"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><img style=3D"width: 7.2291in; height: 0.0208in=
;" id=3D"gmail-m_-7074989153366190104Horizontal_x0020_Line_x0020_1" src=3D"=
cid:16e5fd6997c202c9d201" width=3D"694" height=3D"2" border=3D"0"></span><s=
pan lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u><u></u></span></p><div id=3D"gmail-m_-70749891533=
66190104divRplyFwdMsg"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"color:black=
" lang=3D"EN-GB">From:</span></b><span style=3D"color:black" lang=3D"EN-GB"=
> Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_=
blank">healeys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>&gt; on behalf of Larry Wendland v=
ia Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank">=
healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 10, 2019 3:=
02 PM<br><b>To:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com" target=3D"_blank">simon.lachlan@alexare=
vel.plus.com</a>&gt;; <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_=
blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a> &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.=
net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br><b>Subject:</b> Re=
: [Healeys] Kenlowe</span><span lang=3D"EN-GB"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span><=
/p></div></div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt=
"><span lang=3D"EN-GB">Simon, I Googled Kenlowe and it showed it has a two =
wire lead.=C2=A0 You can wire it up as you please. Just check the two wires=
 with a volt-ohm meter to see if either one is common to the fan housing. I=
f not, then the motor to the fan is isolated from its housing. Should be no=
 issue if it is isolated. <br>Larry &#39;67 BJ8<br><br><br>-----Original Me=
ssage-----<br>From: simon.lachlan &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexa=
revel.plus.com" target=3D"_blank">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>&gt;=
<br>To: &#39;Healeys&#39; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; tar=
get=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt;<br>Sent: Sun, Nov 10, 2019 7:=
38 am<br>Subject: [Healeys] Kenlowe<br><br><br><br>Hi Experts,<br>I have a =
3000. It is Negative earth.<br>I have an opportunity to buy a Kenlowe, seco=
nd hand, at a very good price. It is Positive earth.<br>I imagine that, if =
I reverse the wires, the fan will run the other way. That=E2=80=99s all ver=
y well=E2=80=A6.goes round and round but will, in effect, be pulling the ai=
r rather than pushing. Which is useless.<br>Is there a solution? Apart from=
 not buying it!<u></u><u></u></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mar=
gin-bottom:12pt"><span lang=3D"EN-GB"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p></div>=
</div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt"><span lang=3D"EN-=
GB">Simon<br>=C2=A0=C2=A0<br><br>__________________________________________=
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