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To: Keith Pennell <llennep@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Jamaican
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Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2019 22:13:50 -0700
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BN4 is a roadster.  Door flows into front cowl.

Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone

On Wed, Aug 7, 2019, 2:34 PM Keith Pennell via Healeys <
healeys@autox.team.net> wrote:

> Well, not by my understanding.  By Webster the 100-4 and BN6 and BN7 woul=
d
> be roadsters.  So what would you call all the other models - convertibles=
?
> Whether roadster or convertible had nothing to do with the number of seat=
s
> for a big Healey.  Roadsters had a removable top with frame (100-4, BN4,
> BN6, BN7) and convertibles had the top frame attached to the car (BJ7,
> BJ8).  My .02
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
> To: Keith Pennell <llennep@verizon.net>; healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, Aug 7, 2019 12:16 pm
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Jamaican
>
> I always thought the 'roadsters'--mainly, the 'N' series--were two-seater=
s
> (by definition):
>
> https://www.google.com/search?client=3Dfirefox-b-1-d&q=3Droadster+definit=
ion+english
> Where are the back seats in a BNX?
> Bob
> On 8/7/2019 7:54 AM, Keith Pennell wrote:
>
> Bob
>
> Not sure what you mean by the 2+2s.  The convertibles and roadsters are
> both 2+2.
> ?????
> Keith
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net> <bspidell@comcast.net>
> To: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net> <healeys@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Wed, Aug 7, 2019 10:44 am
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Jamaican
>
> Just happened to stumble across this today:
>
>
> https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-austin-healey-3000-bt7-4-seat-road=
ster-13/
>
> Seems to be a real price delta between roadsters and 2+2s
>
> Bob
>
>
> On 8/7/2019 1:59 AM, Peter Dzwig wrote:
> > I must say, I'd never heard of one before. Looks very pretty and sounds
> > to have been well and truly sorted. Like the Miura-like style, but I'd
> > rather have the real thing (Miura) - sorry I know that's anathema here
> :-)
> >
> > As for price: It has a decent history, it would appear to have had a lo=
t
> > of work done by people who really know what they are doing and has a
> > racing pedigree and is HRDC-registered. It's probably eligible for a lo=
t
> > of historic events.
> >
> > That being said a properly sorted Healey of similar vintage is getting
> > to be quite expensive over here:
> >
> >
> https://rawlesmotorsport.co.uk/CarSales/austin-healey-3000-mkii-bn7-centr=
e-change-2/
> >
> > Conclusion: It's over-priced but possibly not by that much. I would
> > guess by about =C2=A310k. What distinguishes it is what has been done t=
o it
> > and it's proven performance and competitiveness.
> >
> > The other thing of course is that if you are going to race it, you'd
> > better have enough spare cash to be able to rebuild whatever you break!
> >
> > As a matter of interest would the Mk1 register accept it? or for that
> > matter AHCUK HDI?
> >
> > Peter
> >
> >
> >
> > On 06/08/2019 18:01, simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com wrote:
> >> See:-
> >>
> >>
> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1959-Austin-Healey-3000-Mk1-Jamaican-Historic-=
Race-Car-285bhp/183909256707?hash=3Ditem2ad1d88e03:g:~YwAAOSwWkddRoH8
> >>
> >> Looks OK if you like that sort of thing.
> >>
> >> Strange name for a car?
> >>
> >> Simon
> >>
> >>
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"auto">BN4 is a roadster.=C2=A0 Door flows into=
 front cowl.<br><br><div data-smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">Ira Erbs<br>Por=
tland, OR<br>typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone</div></div></div=
><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On We=
d, Aug 7, 2019, 2:34 PM Keith Pennell via Healeys &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:hea=
leys@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.=
8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt arial">Well, not by my understanding.=
=C2=A0 By Webster the 100-4 and BN6 and BN7 would be roadsters.=C2=A0 So wh=
at would you call all the other models - convertibles?=C2=A0 Whether roadst=
er or convertible had nothing to do with the number of seats for a big Heal=
ey.=C2=A0 Roadsters had a removable top with frame (100-4, BN4, BN6, BN7) a=
nd convertibles had the top frame attached to the car (BJ7, BJ8).=C2=A0 My =
.02<br clear=3D"none">
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From: Bob Spidell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net"; rel=3D"norefe=
rrer" target=3D"_blank">bspidell@comcast.net</a>&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
To: Keith Pennell &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:llennep@verizon.net"; rel=3D"norefer=
rer" target=3D"_blank">llennep@verizon.net</a>&gt;; healeys &lt;<a href=3D"=
mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">healeys=
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Sent: Wed, Aug 7, 2019 12:16 pm<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Jamaican<br clear=3D"none">
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<div>I always thought the &#39;roadsters&#39;--mainly, the &#39;N&#39; seri=
es--were
      two-seaters (by definition):</div>


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<div><a class=3D"gmail-m_-2523864170925036119m_-6012073343650286468yiv84006=
80936moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"https://www.google.com/search?client=3D=
firefox-b-1-d&amp;q=3Droadster+definition+english" rel=3D"nofollow noreferr=
er" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">https://www.google.com/search?client=
=3Dfirefox-b-1-d&amp;q=3Droadster+definition+english</a></div>


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<div>Where are the back seats in a BNX?</div>


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<div>Bob<br clear=3D"none">
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<div class=3D"gmail-m_-2523864170925036119m_-6012073343650286468yiv84006809=
36moz-cite-prefix">On 8/7/2019 7:54 AM, Keith Pennell
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<div>Bob</div>


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<div>Not sure what you mean by the 2+2s.=C2=A0 The convertibles and
          roadsters are both 2+2.</div>


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<div>?????</div>


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<div>Keith</div>


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<div style=3D"font-family:arial,helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:black">-----=
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          Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
          From: Bob Spidell <a class=3D"gmail-m_-2523864170925036119m_-6012=
073343650286468yiv8400680936moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:bspidell@=
comcast.net" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">&=
lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt;</a><br clear=3D"none">
          To: healeys <a class=3D"gmail-m_-2523864170925036119m_-6012073343=
650286468yiv8400680936moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.t=
eam.net" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">&lt;h=
ealeys@autox.team.net&gt;</a><br clear=3D"none">
          Sent: Wed, Aug 7, 2019 10:44 am<br clear=3D"none">
          Subject: Re: [Healeys] Jamaican<br clear=3D"none">
          <br clear=3D"none">
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Just happened to stumble across this today:<br clear=3D"no=
ne">
            <br clear=3D"none">
            <a href=3D"https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-austin-healey=
-3000-bt7-4-seat-roadster-13/" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" t=
arget=3D"_blank">https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-austin-healey-3000-=
bt7-4-seat-roadster-13/</a><br clear=3D"none">
            <br clear=3D"none">
            Seems to be a real price delta between roadsters and 2+2s<br cl=
ear=3D"none">
            <br clear=3D"none">
            Bob<br clear=3D"none">
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36yqt3518319537" id=3D"gmail-m_-2523864170925036119m_-6012073343650286468yi=
v8400680936yqtfd56565"><br clear=3D"none">
              On 8/7/2019 1:59 AM, Peter Dzwig wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; I must say, I&#39;d never heard of one before. Looks ver=
y
              pretty and sounds<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; to have been well and truly sorted. Like the
              Miura-like style, but I&#39;d<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; rather have the real thing (Miura) - sorry I know
              that&#39;s anathema here :-)<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt;<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; As for price: It has a decent history, it would
              appear to have had a lot<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; of work done by people who really know what they are
              doing and has a<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; racing pedigree and is HRDC-registered. It&#39;s probabl=
y
              eligible for a lot<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; of historic events.<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt;<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; That being said a properly sorted Healey of similar
              vintage is getting<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; to be quite expensive over here:<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt;<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; <a href=3D"https://rawlesmotorsport.co.uk/CarSales/austi=
n-healey-3000-mkii-bn7-centre-change-2/" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" shape=
=3D"rect" target=3D"_blank">https://rawlesmotorsport.co.uk/CarSales/austin-=
healey-3000-mkii-bn7-centre-change-2/</a><br clear=3D"none">
              &gt;<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; Conclusion: It&#39;s over-priced but possibly not by tha=
t
              much. I would<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; guess by about =C2=A310k. What distinguishes it is what
              has been done to it<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; and it&#39;s proven performance and competitiveness.<br =
clear=3D"none">
              &gt;<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; The other thing of course is that if you are going to
              race it, you&#39;d<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; better have enough spare cash to be able to rebuild
              whatever you break!<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt;<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; As a matter of interest would the Mk1 register accept
              it? or for that<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; matter AHCUK HDI?<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt;<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; Peter<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt;<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt;<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt;<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt; On 06/08/2019 18:01, <a href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@ale=
xarevel.plus.com" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" target=3D"_bla=
nk">simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>
              wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt;&gt; See:-<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt;&gt; <a href=3D"https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1959-Austin-He=
aley-3000-Mk1-Jamaican-Historic-Race-Car-285bhp/183909256707?hash=3Ditem2ad=
1d88e03:g:~YwAAOSwWkddRoH8" rel=3D"nofollow noreferrer" shape=3D"rect" targ=
et=3D"_blank">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1959-Austin-Healey-3000-Mk1-Jamaic=
an-Historic-Race-Car-285bhp/183909256707?hash=3Ditem2ad1d88e03:g:~YwAAOSwWk=
ddRoH8</a><br clear=3D"none">
              &gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt;&gt; Looks OK if you like that sort of thing.<br clear=3D=
"none">
              &gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt;&gt; Strange name for a car?<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt;&gt; Simon<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
              &gt;&gt;<br clear=3D"none">
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