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I remember these from the early Sixties, in fact if anyone has any copies o=
f 'Motor Sport" from that time, a quick scan of the back pages where the sm=
all ads are will yield any number for sale.
I have always thought them a particularly handsome car, but i don't recall =
Healeys being the "platform" of choice, that was usually a distinctly downm=
arket tumbril of a Ford Ten or Austin ditto.=C2=A0 I seem to recall that it=
was produced to compete with Peerless, Elva and suchlike fibreglass creati=
ons, as were the plethora of imitators from that time.
Being SERIOUSLY pedantic for a moment, I always cringe when I hear our Amer=
ican chums pronounce "coup=E1=BA=BF" as "koop", which is the correct pronun=
ciation of "coupe" meaning "cup", rather than "coopay' meaning "cut"which i=
n automotive styling terms makes much more sense.=C2=A0 The little accent o=
ver the letter "e" is the dead giveaway.
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Back to the library I go!
On Wednesday, 7 August 2019, 18:19:33 GMT-7, Bob Spidell <bspidell@comc=
ast.net> wrote: =20
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To me, a roadster is a strict two-seater without roll-up windows and a hood=
that has to be erected (or assembled if your prefer).=C2=A0 Everything els=
e can be called whatever anybody wants (like a certain German company who s=
ells 'coupes' that are really sedans with a sloping roofline).=C2=A0 My BN2=
/100M is a roadster, my BJ8 is a 2+2 convertible (my Mustang is a 2+2 coupe=
whose back seats are even less useful than my BJ8's).=C2=A0 Of course, you=
r mileage may vary.
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And, since we're being pedantic there is no such thing as an 'Austin-Healey=
100-4.'
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Bob
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On 8/7/2019 2:30 PM, Keith Pennell wrote:
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Well, not by my understanding.=C2=A0 By Webster the 100-4 and BN6 and B=
N7 would be roadsters.=C2=A0 So what would you call all the other models - =
convertibles?=C2=A0 Whether roadster or convertible had nothing to do with =
the number of seats for a big Healey.=C2=A0 Roadsters had a removable top w=
ith frame (100-4, BN4, BN6, BN7) and convertibles had the top frame attache=
d to the car (BJ7, BJ8).=C2=A0 My .02
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
To: Keith Pennell <llennep@verizon.net>; healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 7, 2019 12:16 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Jamaican
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I always thought the 'roadsters'--mainly, the 'N' series--were two-seate=
rs (by definition): https://www.google.com/search?client=3Dfirefox-b-1-d&q=
=3Droadster+definition+english Where are the back seats in a BNX? Bob
On 8/7/2019 7:54 AM, Keith Pennell wrote:
=20
=20
Bob=20
Not sure what you mean by the 2+2s.=C2=A0 The convertibles and roadsters =
are both 2+2. ????? Keith=20
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-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Spidell <bspidell@comcast.net>
To: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Aug 7, 2019 10:44 am
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Jamaican
=20
Just happened to stumble across this today:
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https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-austin-healey-3000-bt7-4-seat-roads=
ter-13/
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Seems to be a real price delta between roadsters and 2+2s
=20
Bob
=20
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On 8/7/2019 1:59 AM, Peter Dzwig wrote:
> I must say, I'd never heard of one before. Looks very pretty and sounds
> to have been well and truly sorted. Like the Miura-like style, but I'd
> rather have the real thing (Miura) - sorry I know that's anathema here :=
-)
>
> As for price: It has a decent history, it would appear to have had a lot
> of work done by people who really know what they are doing and has a
> racing pedigree and is HRDC-registered. It's probably eligible for a lot
> of historic events.
>
> That being said a properly sorted Healey of similar vintage is getting
> to be quite expensive over here:
>
> https://rawlesmotorsport.co.uk/CarSales/austin-healey-3000-mkii-bn7-cent=
re-change-2/
>
> Conclusion: It's over-priced but possibly not by that much. I would
> guess by about =C2=A310k. What distinguishes it is what has been done to=
it
> and it's proven performance and competitiveness.
>
> The other thing of course is that if you are going to race it, you'd
> better have enough spare cash to be able to rebuild whatever you break!
>
> As a matter of interest would the Mk1 register accept it? or for that
> matter AHCUK HDI?
>
> Peter
>
>
>
> On 06/08/2019 18:01, simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com wrote:
>> See:-
>>
>> https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1959-Austin-Healey-3000-Mk1-Jamaican-Histori=
c-Race-Car-285bhp/183909256707?hash=3Ditem2ad1d88e03:g:~YwAAOSwWkddRoH8
>>
>> Looks OK if you like that sort of thing.
>>
>> Strange name for a car?
>>
>> Simon
>>
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<html><head></head><body><div data-setdir=3D"false" dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"yd=
pafbdc6fbyahoo-style-wrap" style=3D"font-family: Helvetica Neue,Helvetica,A=
rial,sans-serif; font-size: 13px;"><div>I remember these from the early Six=
ties, in fact if anyone has any copies of 'Motor Sport" from that time, a q=
uick scan of the back pages where the small ads are will yield any number f=
or sale.<br><div data-setdir=3D"false" dir=3D"ltr"><br><div data-setdir=3D"=
false" dir=3D"ltr">I have always thought them a particularly handsome car, =
but i don't recall Healeys being the "platform" of choice, that was usually=
a distinctly downmarket tumbril of a Ford Ten or Austin ditto. I see=
m to recall that it was produced to compete with Peerless, Elva and suchlik=
e fibreglass creations, as were the plethora of imitators from that time.<b=
r><div data-setdir=3D"false" dir=3D"ltr"><br><div>Being SERIOUSLY pedantic =
for a moment, I always cringe when I hear our American chums pronounce "cou=
p=E1=BA=BF" as "koop", which is the correct pronunciation of "coupe" meanin=
g "cup", rather than "coopay' meaning "cut"which in automotive styling term=
s makes much more sense. The little accent over the letter "e" is the=
dead giveaway.<br></div></div></div></div></div><div></div>
<div><br></div><div data-setdir=3D"false" dir=3D"ltr"><br><div>Back=
to the library I go!<br></div></div>
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On Wednesday, 7 August 2019, 18:19:33 GMT-7, Bob Spidel=
l <bspidell@comcast.net> wrote:
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<div><br></div>
<div><br></div>
<div><div id=3D"yiv1851404286"><div>
<p>To me, a roadster is a strict two-seater without roll-up windows
and a hood that has to be erected (or assembled if your prefer). =
;
Everything else can be called whatever anybody wants (like a
certain German company who sells 'coupes' that are really sedans
with a sloping roofline). My BN2/100M is a roadster, my BJ8 is =
a
2+2 convertible (my Mustang is a 2+2 coupe whose back seats are
even less useful than my BJ8's). Of course, your mileage may
vary.<br clear=3D"none">
</p>
<p>And, since we're being pedantic there is no such thing as an
'Austin-Healey 100-4.'<br clear=3D"none">
</p>
<p>Bob<br clear=3D"none">
</p>
<div class=3D"yiv1851404286yqt0348398036" id=3D"yiv1851404286yqtfd44595=
"><div class=3D"yiv1851404286moz-cite-prefix">On 8/7/2019 2:30 PM, Keith Pe=
nnell
wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
</blockquote></div></div><div class=3D"yiv1851404286yqt0348398036" id=
=3D"yiv1851404286yqtfd51944"><div><div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt arial=
;">
<div style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica;font-size:10pt;color:bla=
ck;">
<div id=3D"yiv1851404286">
<div>
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt arial;">Well, not by my
understanding. By Webster the 100-4 and BN6 and BN7
would be roadsters. So what would you call all the
other models - convertibles? Whether roadster or
convertible had nothing to do with the number of seats
for a big Healey. Roadsters had a removable top with
frame (100-4, BN4, BN6, BN7) and convertibles had the
top frame attached to the car (BJ7, BJ8). My .02<br c=
lear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<div class=3D"yiv1851404286yqt6324762674" id=3D"yiv18514042=
86yqt90202">
<div style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica;font-size:10pt=
;color:black;">-----Original
Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: Bob Spidell <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" cl=
ass=3D"yiv1851404286moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"mailto:bspidell@comca=
st.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";><bspidell=
@comcast.net></a><br clear=3D"none">
To: Keith Pennell <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" cl=
ass=3D"yiv1851404286moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"mailto:llennep@verizo=
n.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:llennep@verizon.net";><llennep@ve=
rizon.net></a>;
healeys <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv=
1851404286moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><healeys@autox.=
team.net></a><br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Wed, Aug 7, 2019 12:16 pm<br clear=3D"none">
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Jamaican<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<div id=3D"yiv1851404286">
<div>
<div>I always thought the 'roadsters'--mainly,
the 'N' series--were two-seaters (by
definition):</div>
<div><a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" class=3D"yi=
v1851404286moz-txt-link-freetext" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://www.goo=
gle.com/search?client=3Dfirefox-b-1-d&q=3Droadster+definition+english">=
https://www.google.com/search?client=3Dfirefox-b-1-d&q=3Droadster+defin=
ition+english</a></div>
<div>Where are the back seats in a BNX?</div>
<div>Bob<br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div class=3D"yiv1851404286yqt3346349360" id=3D"yiv=
1851404286yqt04862">
<div class=3D"yiv1851404286moz-cite-prefix">On
8/7/2019 7:54 AM, Keith Pennell wrote:<br clear=
=3D"none">
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite"> </blockquote>
</div>
</div>
<div class=3D"yiv1851404286yqt3346349360" id=3D"yiv18=
51404286yqt89390">
<div>
<div style=3D"color:black;font:10pt arial;">
<div>Bob</div>
<div><br clear=3D"none">
</div>
<div>Not sure what you mean by the 2+2s.
The convertibles and roadsters are both
2+2.</div>
<div>?????</div>
<div>Keith</div>
<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<div style=3D"font-family:arial, helvetica;font=
-size:10pt;color:black;">-----Original
Message-----<br clear=3D"none">
From: Bob Spidell <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=
=3D"rect" class=3D"yiv1851404286moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"mailto:bs=
pidell@comcast.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:bspidell@comcast.net";>=
<bspidell@comcast.net></a><br clear=3D"none">
To: healeys <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect=
" class=3D"yiv1851404286moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" ymailto=3D"mailto:healeys@au=
tox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";><=
healeys@autox.team.net></a><br clear=3D"none">
Sent: Wed, Aug 7, 2019 10:44 am<br clear=3D"n=
one">
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Jamaican<br clear=3D"n=
one">
<br clear=3D"none">
<div dir=3D"ltr">Just happened to stumble
across this today:<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" target=
=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-austin-healey-30=
00-bt7-4-seat-roadster-13/">https://bringatrailer.com/listing/1962-austin-h=
ealey-3000-bt7-4-seat-roadster-13/</a><br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
Seems to be a real price delta between
roadsters and 2+2s<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
Bob<br clear=3D"none">
<br clear=3D"none">
<div class=3D"yiv1851404286yqt3518319537" i=
d=3D"yiv1851404286yqtfd56565"><br clear=3D"none">
On 8/7/2019 1:59 AM, Peter Dzwig
wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
> I must say, I'd never heard of
one before. Looks very pretty and
sounds<br clear=3D"none">
> to have been well and truly
sorted. Like the Miura-like style, but
I'd<br clear=3D"none">
> rather have the real thing
(Miura) - sorry I know that's anathema
here :-)<br clear=3D"none">
><br clear=3D"none">
> As for price: It has a decent
history, it would appear to have had a
lot<br clear=3D"none">
> of work done by people who really
know what they are doing and has a<br cle=
ar=3D"none">
> racing pedigree and is
HRDC-registered. It's probably
eligible for a lot<br clear=3D"none">
> of historic events.<br clear=3D"none=
">
><br clear=3D"none">
> That being said a properly sorted
Healey of similar vintage is getting<br c=
lear=3D"none">
> to be quite expensive over here:<br =
clear=3D"none">
><br clear=3D"none">
> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rect" t=
arget=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://rawlesmotorsport.co.uk/CarSales/austin-hea=
ley-3000-mkii-bn7-centre-change-2/">https://rawlesmotorsport.co.uk/CarSales=
/austin-healey-3000-mkii-bn7-centre-change-2/</a><br clear=3D"none">
><br clear=3D"none">
> Conclusion: It's over-priced but
possibly not by that much. I would<br cle=
ar=3D"none">
> guess by about =C2=A310k. What
distinguishes it is what has been done
to it<br clear=3D"none">
> and it's proven performance and
competitiveness.<br clear=3D"none">
><br clear=3D"none">
> The other thing of course is that
if you are going to race it, you'd<br cle=
ar=3D"none">
> better have enough spare cash to
be able to rebuild whatever you break!<br=
clear=3D"none">
><br clear=3D"none">
> As a matter of interest would the
Mk1 register accept it? or for that<br cl=
ear=3D"none">
> matter AHCUK HDI?<br clear=3D"none">
><br clear=3D"none">
> Peter<br clear=3D"none">
><br clear=3D"none">
><br clear=3D"none">
><br clear=3D"none">
> On 06/08/2019 18:01, <a rel=3D"nofol=
low" shape=3D"rect" ymailto=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com"; ta=
rget=3D"_blank" href=3D"mailto:simon.lachlan@alexarevel.plus.com";>simon.lac=
hlan@alexarevel.plus.com</a>
wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
>> See:-<br clear=3D"none">
>><br clear=3D"none">
>> <a rel=3D"nofollow" shape=3D"rec=
t" target=3D"_blank" href=3D"https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1959-Austin-Healey-=
3000-Mk1-Jamaican-Historic-Race-Car-285bhp/183909256707?hash=3Ditem2ad1d88e=
03:g:~YwAAOSwWkddRoH8">https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1959-Austin-Healey-3000-M=
k1-Jamaican-Historic-Race-Car-285bhp/183909256707?hash=3Ditem2ad1d88e03:g:~=
YwAAOSwWkddRoH8</a><br clear=3D"none">
>><br clear=3D"none">
>> Looks OK if you like that
sort of thing.<br clear=3D"none">
>><br clear=3D"none">
>> Strange name for a car?<br clear=
=3D"none">
>><br clear=3D"none">
>> Simon<br clear=3D"none">
>><br clear=3D"none">
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