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To: Frank Magnusson <fmags@cox.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine running smoothly, now to install the interior
From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
Date: Thu, 24 Jan 2019 20:34:02 +0000 (UTC)
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From: warthodson@aol.com <warthodson@aol.com>=20
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 10:17 AM
To: fmags@cox.net; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine running smoothly, now to install the interior

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When I was restoring my BJ8 (about 6-8 years ago) I tried to compare variou=
s thermal insulation efficiencies. I.E. "R" values. My primary concern was =
heat not sound. Many of the sources made it nearly impossible because they =
do not publish this information. I just looked at Dynamat's website & in a =
quick search could not find any "R" value information. However, I did notic=
e that they seem to be saying Dynamat is primarily for sound insulation & t=
heir Dynaliner is primarily for thermal insulation. Remember that anything =
you put between the heat source & the cockpit will act as an insulator. But=
 some things will be better at it than other things. Dynaliner is a closed =
cell (air spaces) rubber material. That sounds similar to neoprene to me. B=
y the way, it is the small air spaces that do most of the insulating, not t=
he rubber.

R values are often stated as btuh/inch. So, if something has an R value of =
8 btu/inch & the material is 1/2" thick it will actually have an R of 4.=C2=
=A0

This is primarily discussing conduction. Heat is transferred by conduction,=
 convection & radiation.=C2=A0

The insulation in a Healey will have to be able to withstand relatively hig=
h temperatures, perhaps water & possibly some abrasion.=C2=A0

I am trying to point out that Dynamat appears to not be the best way to red=
uce heat if that is your goal & there is very limited space available for g=
ood thermal insulation so use the best available after you figure out what =
that is.=C2=A0

Gary Hodson

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-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Magnusson <fmags@cox.net>
To: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Jan 23, 2019 5:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine running smoothly, now to install the interior

Bob,

=C2=A0

Agree with other posts about replacing grommets, and sealing any gaps you f=
ind in the engine bay.=C2=A0 Any opening will let heat in of course.

=C2=A0

I didn=E2=80=99t use any caulking when I installed the tunnel; just the fac=
tory seals for the tunnel IIRC; But, it=E2=80=99s been awhile=E2=80=A6

=C2=A0

As far as heat insulation, I used a product called Refletix; can=E2=80=99t =
say it reduced the heat any or not; it=E2=80=99s still hot in the footwell.=
=C2=A0 I think if I were doing it today, I=E2=80=99d use Dynamat.=C2=A0 I j=
ust put some in another vehicle as sound insulation and it works great for =
that and is supposed to reduce heat as well.=C2=A0 I put the Refletix on th=
e gearbox side of the tunnel as it=E2=80=99s rather thick, but I think I=E2=
=80=99d put Dynamat on the inside.=C2=A0 It=E2=80=99s very thin (but heavy)=
, so I don=E2=80=99t think it would make the=C2=A0 carpet look too thick.=
=C2=A0 Not cheap, though.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Alot of the custom car shops use it; =
Foose, Kindigit, etc.

=C2=A0

BTW, Dynamat does make an entire kit for one of the big Healey=E2=80=99s; D=
on=E2=80=99t recall which one, but its on their website and should be a cus=
tom fit.=C2=A0 Should work on all big Healey=E2=80=99s I would think.

=C2=A0

I need to pull my tunnel off as well to replace the gearshift boot; may put=
 some Dynamat in there as long as I have it off.

=C2=A0

Hope this helps,

Frank

=E2=80=9965 BJ8

=C2=A0

<Now I am ready to install the interior with new heat insulation.=C2=A0 Wha=
t is the recommended caulking compound to use when installing the tunnel?=
=C2=A0 Is it recommended to install heat insulation on the transmission sid=
e of the tunnel.=C2=A0 If so, what to use, for example heavy duty 3M spray =
or?>

=C2=A0

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t for thermal issues.</p><p class=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><p =
class=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal"><b>From:</b> warthodson@aol.com &lt;wartho=
dson@aol.com&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 24, 2019 10:17 AM<br><b=
>To:</b> fmags@cox.net; healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Heal=
eys] Engine running smoothly, now to install the interior</p><p class=3D"yi=
v7249981838MsoNormal"> &nbsp;</p><div><div id=3D"yiv7249981838"><div><div><=
p class=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-fam=
ily:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">When I was restoring my BJ8 (about 6-8 =
years ago) I tried to compare various thermal insulation efficiencies. I.E.=
 "R" values. My primary concern was heat not sound. Many of the sources mad=
e it nearly impossible because they do not publish this information. I just=
 looked at Dynamat's website &amp; in a quick search could not find any "R"=
 value information. However, I did notice that they seem to be saying Dynam=
at is primarily for sound insulation &amp; their Dynaliner is primarily for=
 thermal insulation. Remember that <b>anything</b> you put between the heat=
 source &amp; the cockpit will act as an insulator. But some things will be=
 better at it than other things. Dynaliner is a closed cell (air spaces) ru=
bber material. That sounds similar to neoprene to me. By the way, it is the=
 small air spaces that do most of the insulating, not the rubber.</span></p=
></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10=
.0pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">R values are often stated =
as btuh/inch. So, if something has an R value of 8 btu/inch &amp; the mater=
ial is 1/2" thick it will actually have an R of 4.&nbsp;</span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">This is primarily discussing conduc=
tion. Heat is transferred by conduction, convection &amp; radiation.&nbsp;<=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">The insulation in=
 a Healey will have to be able to withstand relatively high temperatures, p=
erhaps water &amp; possibly some abrasion.&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p cl=
ass=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:=
Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">I am trying to point out that Dynamat appea=
rs to not be the best way to reduce heat if that is your goal &amp; there i=
s very limited space available for good thermal insulation so use the best =
available after you figure out what that is.&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
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al, sans-serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv72=
49981838MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial, sans-=
serif;color:black;"> &nbsp;</span></p></div><p class=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNor=
mal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:bl=
ack;"> &nbsp;</span></p><div><p class=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal" style=3D"m=
argin-bottom:12.0pt;"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial, sa=
ns-serif;color:black;">-----Original Message-----<br>From: Frank Magnusson =
&lt;fmags@cox.net&gt;<br>To: healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>Sent=
: Wed, Jan 23, 2019 5:07 pm<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine running smooth=
ly, now to install the interior</span></p><div id=3D"yiv7249981838yqt59580"=
><div id=3D"yiv7249981838"><div><div><div><p class=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:blac=
k;">Bob,</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal"><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</=
span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font=
-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">Agree with other p=
osts about replacing grommets, and sealing any gaps you find in the engine =
bay.&nbsp; Any opening will let heat in of course.</span></p></div><div><p =
class=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-famil=
y:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"y=
iv7249981838MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial, s=
ans-serif;color:black;">I didn=E2=80=99t use any caulking when I installed =
the tunnel; just the factory seals for the tunnel IIRC; But, it=E2=80=99s b=
een awhile=E2=80=A6</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal=
"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black=
;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">As far =
as heat insulation, I used a product called Refletix; can=E2=80=99t say it =
reduced the heat any or not; it=E2=80=99s still hot in the footwell.&nbsp; =
I think if I were doing it today, I=E2=80=99d use Dynamat.&nbsp; I just put=
 some in another vehicle as sound insulation and it works great for that an=
d is supposed to reduce heat as well.&nbsp; I put the Refletix on the gearb=
ox side of the tunnel as it=E2=80=99s rather thick, but I think I=E2=80=99d=
 put Dynamat on the inside.&nbsp; It=E2=80=99s very thin (but heavy), so I =
don=E2=80=99t think it would make the&nbsp; carpet look too thick.&nbsp; No=
t cheap, though.&nbsp; &nbsp;Alot of the custom car shops use it; Foose, Ki=
ndigit, etc.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal"><span=
 style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">&nbs=
p;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">BTW, Dynamat d=
oes make an entire kit for one of the big Healey=E2=80=99s; Don=E2=80=99t r=
ecall which one, but its on their website and should be a custom fit.&nbsp;=
 Should work on all big Healey=E2=80=99s I would think.</span></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Ari=
al, sans-serif;color:black;">I need to pull my tunnel off as well to replac=
e the gearshift boot; may put some Dynamat in there as long as I have it of=
f.</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">Hope this helps,</span><=
/p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">Frank</span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font=
-family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">=E2=80=9965 BJ8</span></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-=
family:Arial, sans-serif;color:black;">&nbsp;</span></p></div><div><p class=
=3D"yiv7249981838MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Ari=
al, sans-serif;color:black;">&lt;Now I am ready to install the interior wit=
h new heat insulation.&nbsp; What is the recommended caulking compound to u=
se when installing the tunnel?&nbsp; Is it recommended to install heat insu=
lation on the transmission side of the tunnel.&nbsp; If so, what to use, fo=
r example heavy duty 3M spray or?&gt;</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"yiv7=
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