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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine running smoothly, now to install the interior
From: "Frank Magnusson" <fmags@cox.net> a=ghaoKe/rVHPOl5ZgEXW5Qg==:117 a=ghaoKe/rVHPOl5ZgEXW5Qg==:17 a=sp2D9erbc5kA:10 a=DAwyPP_o2Byb1YXLmDAA:9 a=3oc9M9_CAAAA:8 a=kviXuzpPAAAA:8 a=zOoktvdPAAAA:8 a=_6GpL_ENAAAA:8 a=2l0JBoFYKGu-3nsv0ggA:9 a=EauSvCKB_hOibp1E:21 a=SjzZjLJIAPy_f8V8:21 a=QEXdDO2ut3YA:10 a=m3MdUl94G8cA:10 a=yMhMjlubAAAA:8 a=SSmOFEACAAAA:8 a=dcotPURex0eG9RAKVagA:9 a=ejADEkZgVLIJZA35:21 a=eBCNcmbGNE5ZhLjM:21 a=iX-eGRki2HA6ML8e:21 a=gKO2Hq4RSVkA:10 a=UiCQ7L4-1S4A:10 a=hTZeC7Yk6K0A:10 a=frz4AuCg-hUA:10 a=N2dutMJQT-KCERrpalIA:9 a=-XggfrMJsOVGF3Wk:18 a=KQqxNPgzF0kA:10 a=VEiTNn8F7TgA:10 a=qrIFiuKZe2vaD64auk6j:22 a=GGGinmgZRQXmVEG1E52S:22
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Yes; you=E2=80=99re right; Dynaliner is their best product for thermal issu=
es.

 

From: warthodson@aol.com <warthodson@aol.com> 
Sent: Thursday, January 24, 2019 10:17 AM
To: fmags@cox.net; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine running smoothly, now to install the interior=


 

When I was restoring my BJ8 (about 6-8 years ago) I tried to compare variou=
s thermal insulation efficiencies. I.E. "R" values. My primary concern was =
heat not sound. Many of the sources made it nearly impossible because they =
do not publish this information. I just looked at Dynamat's website & in a =
quick search could not find any "R" value information. However, I did notic=
e that they seem to be saying Dynamat is primarily for sound insulation & t=
heir Dynaliner is primarily for thermal insulation. Remember that anything =
you put between the heat source & the cockpit will act as an insulator. But=
 some things will be better at it than other things. Dynaliner is a closed =
cell (air spaces) rubber material. That sounds similar to neoprene to me. B=
y the way, it is the small air spaces that do most of the insulating, not t=
he rubber.

R values are often stated as btuh/inch. So, if something has an R value of =
8 btu/inch & the material is 1/2" thick it will actually have an R of 4. 

This is primarily discussing conduction. Heat is transferred by conduction,=
 convection & radiation. 

The insulation in a Healey will have to be able to withstand relatively hig=
h temperatures, perhaps water & possibly some abrasion. 

I am trying to point out that Dynamat appears to not be the best way to red=
uce heat if that is your goal & there is very limited space available for g=
ood thermal insulation so use the best available after you figure out what =
that is. 

Gary Hodson

 

 

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Frank Magnusson <fmags@cox.net>
To: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Jan 23, 2019 5:07 pm
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine running smoothly, now to install the interior=


Bob,

 

Agree with other posts about replacing grommets, and sealing any gaps you f=
ind in the engine bay.  Any opening will let heat in of course.

 

I didn=E2=80=99t use any caulking when I installed the tunnel; just the fac=
tory seals for the tunnel IIRC; But, it=E2=80=99s been awhile=E2=80=A6

 

As far as heat insulation, I used a product called Refletix; can=E2=80=99t =
say it reduced the heat any or not; it=E2=80=99s still hot in the footwell.=
  I think if I were doing it today, I=E2=80=99d use Dynamat.  I just put so=
me in another vehicle as sound insulation and it works great for that and i=
s supposed to reduce heat as well.  I put the Refletix on the gearbox side =
of the tunnel as it=E2=80=99s rather thick, but I think I=E2=80=99d put Dyn=
amat on the inside.  It=E2=80=99s very thin (but heavy), so I don=E2=80=99t=
 think it would make the  carpet look too thick.  Not cheap, though.   Alot=
 of the custom car shops use it; Foose, Kindigit, etc.

 

BTW, Dynamat does make an entire kit for one of the big Healey=E2=80=99s; D=
on=E2=80=99t recall which one, but its on their website and should be a cus=
tom fit.  Should work on all big Healey=E2=80=99s I would think.

 

I need to pull my tunnel off as well to replace the gearshift boot; may put=
 some Dynamat in there as long as I have it off.

 

Hope this helps,

Frank

=E2=80=9965 BJ8

 

<Now I am ready to install the interior with new heat insulation.  What is =
the recommended caulking compound to use when installing the tunnel?  Is it=
 recommended to install heat insulation on the transmission side of the tun=
nel.  If so, what to use, for example heavy duty 3M spray or?>

 

 


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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>Yes; =
you=E2=80=99re right; Dynaliner is their best product for thermal =
issues.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> warthodson@aol.com =
&lt;warthodson@aol.com&gt; <br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, January 24, 2019 =
10:17 AM<br><b>To:</b> fmags@cox.net; =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Engine running =
smoothly, now to install the interior<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
id=3Dyiv1297619435><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Whe=
n I was restoring my BJ8 (about 6-8 years ago) I tried to compare =
various thermal insulation efficiencies. I.E. &quot;R&quot; values. My =
primary concern was heat not sound. Many of the sources made it nearly =
impossible because they do not publish this information. I just looked =
at Dynamat's website &amp; in a quick search could not find any =
&quot;R&quot; value information. However, I did notice that they seem to =
be saying Dynamat is primarily for sound insulation &amp; their =
Dynaliner is primarily for thermal insulation. Remember that =
<b>anything</b> you put between the heat source &amp; the cockpit will =
act as an insulator. But some things will be better at it than other =
things. Dynaliner is a closed cell (air spaces) rubber material. That =
sounds similar to neoprene to me. By the way, it is the small air spaces =
that do most of the insulating, not the =
rubber.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>R =
values are often stated as btuh/inch. So, if something has an R value of =
8 btu/inch &amp; the material is 1/2&quot; thick it will actually have =
an R of 4.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Thi=
s is primarily discussing conduction. Heat is transferred by conduction, =
convection &amp; radiation.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>The=
 insulation in a Healey will have to be able to withstand relatively =
high temperatures, perhaps water &amp; possibly some =
abrasion.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
am trying to point out that Dynamat appears to not be the best way to =
reduce heat if that is your goal &amp; there is very limited space =
available for good thermal insulation so use the best available after =
you figure out what that is.&nbsp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Gar=
y Hodson<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'><o:=
p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>---=
--Original Message-----<br>From: Frank Magnusson =
&lt;fmags@cox.net&gt;<br>To: healeys =
&lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>Sent: Wed, Jan 23, 2019 5:07 =
pm<br>Subject: Re: [Healeys] Engine running smoothly, now to install the =
interior<o:p></o:p></span></p><div id=3Dyiv1297619435yqt59580><div =
id=3Dyiv1297619435><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Bob=
,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Agr=
ee with other posts about replacing grommets, and sealing any gaps you =
find in the engine bay.&nbsp; Any opening will let heat in of =
course.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
didn=E2=80=99t use any caulking when I installed the tunnel; just the =
factory seals for the tunnel IIRC; But, it=E2=80=99s been =
awhile=E2=80=A6<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>As =
far as heat insulation, I used a product called Refletix; can=E2=80=99t =
say it reduced the heat any or not; it=E2=80=99s still hot in the =
footwell.&nbsp; I think if I were doing it today, I=E2=80=99d use =
Dynamat.&nbsp; I just put some in another vehicle as sound insulation =
and it works great for that and is supposed to reduce heat as =
well.&nbsp; I put the Refletix on the gearbox side of the tunnel as =
it=E2=80=99s rather thick, but I think I=E2=80=99d put Dynamat on the =
inside.&nbsp; It=E2=80=99s very thin (but heavy), so I don=E2=80=99t =
think it would make the&nbsp; carpet look too thick.&nbsp; Not cheap, =
though.&nbsp; &nbsp;Alot of the custom car shops use it; Foose, =
Kindigit, etc.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>BTW=
, Dynamat does make an entire kit for one of the big Healey=E2=80=99s; =
Don=E2=80=99t recall which one, but its on their website and should be a =
custom fit.&nbsp; Should work on all big Healey=E2=80=99s I would =
think.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>I =
need to pull my tunnel off as well to replace the gearshift boot; may =
put some Dynamat in there as long as I have it =
off.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Hop=
e this helps,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>Fra=
nk<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>=E2=
=80=9965 BJ8<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
sp;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&lt=
;Now I am ready to install the interior with new heat insulation.&nbsp; =
What is the recommended caulking compound to use when installing the =
tunnel?&nbsp; Is it recommended to install heat insulation on the =
transmission side of the tunnel.&nbsp; If so, what to use, for example =
heavy duty 3M spray or?&gt;<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>&nb=
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