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I believe the center shift came in 1962
Ira Erbs
Portland, OR
typos and artifacts are the fault of my phone
On Wed, Dec 26, 2018, 9:52 AM Richard Collins <gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com
wrote:
> FWIW, my BN7 built inApril 1959, #440, had no overdrive and was a side
> shift. Not sure when it was changed but I now have OD and top shifter.
>
> Happy Holidays to all!
>
> Regards,
> Richard C
>
>
> On Dec 25, 2018, at 1:16 AM, Bruce Steele <healeybruce@roadrunner.com>
> wrote:
>
> I=E2=80=99m perplexed by the references to the =E2=80=9CU=E2=80=9D in the=
engine number in the
> documents which Scott attached. The first attachment states that 3000 Mk=
I
> commenced with engine number 29D-U-H101 and ended with 29D-U-H26212. The
> second document states that =E2=80=9CU=E2=80=9D indicated a center shift =
gear box. We know
> that all Mark I Healeys were side shift; the center shift was not
> introduced until near the end of the Mark II BN7/BT7 run in November, 196=
1
> at engine number 29E/2246, chassis number BT7/15881 and BN7/16039, per
> Clausager=E2=80=99s book. Hence, the 2 documents conflict and my confusi=
on over
> the statement that the =E2=80=9CU=E2=80=9D refers to a center shift box.
>
>
>
> Clausager states: =E2=80=9CHowever, the engine prefix was later changed, =
possibly
> coinciding with the introduction of the six-port engine in 1957. These
> engines had the prefix 26D, followed by U on non-overdrive cars, and R (o=
r
> RU) on overdrive cars, finishing with the letter H for High compression=
=E2=80=9D
> (Original Austin Healey, Clausager, 1990, pg. 87).
>
>
>
> Case in point, my BN7, produced 26-28 September, 1960 is chassis number
> 12656 and engine number 29D-U-H/22855 (my car was originally a non-OD car=
),
> verified by the BMIHT certificate. The gearbox is a correct side shift
> unit. This is in agreement with Clausager=E2=80=99s description.
>
>
>
> So, the assertion that U denotes center shift is quite confusing. Anyone
> else able to weigh in?
>
>
>
> Bruce Steele
>
> Brea, CA
>
> 1960 BN7
>
>
>
> *From:* Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net
> <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net>] *On Behalf Of *J. Scott Morris
> *Sent:* Monday, December 24, 2018 8:18 AM
> *To:* mitch <dayton21@comcast.net>; healeys@autox.team.net
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] engine identification
>
>
>
> Hello Mitch and Seasons Greetings.
>
> The attached files may help a little but the casting numbers are not
> related to sequential engine production.
>
> --Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, Murphy
> Lives
>
>
>
> On Monday, December 24, 2018 7:39 AM, mitch <dayton21@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> Hello
>
>
>
> How do you ID an engine block/or head=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6that does not have=
an ID tag?
>
> Do the engine block casting numbers mean anything?
>
>
>
> Mitchell
>
>
>
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<div dir=3D"auto">I believe the center shift came in 1962<br><br><div data-=
smartmail=3D"gmail_signature">Ira Erbs<br>Portland, OR<br>typos and artifac=
ts are the fault of my phone</div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div=
dir=3D"ltr">On Wed, Dec 26, 2018, 9:52 AM Richard Collins <<a href=3D"m=
ailto:gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com">gonnagitcha90@hotmail.com</a> wrote:<br></=
div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-lef=
t:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir=3D"auto">
FWIW, my BN7 built inApril 1959, #440, had no overdrive and was a side shif=
t. Not sure when it was changed but I now have OD and top shifter.
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Happy Holidays to all!<br>
<br>
<div id=3D"m_1856563438236157543AppleMailSignature" dir=3D"ltr">Regards,
<div>Richard C</div>
<div><br>
</div>
</div>
<div dir=3D"ltr"><br>
On Dec 25, 2018, at 1:16 AM, Bruce Steele <<a href=3D"mailto:healeybruce=
@roadrunner.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">healeybruce@roadrunne=
r.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type=3D"cite">
<div dir=3D"ltr">
<div class=3D"m_1856563438236157543WordSection1">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Trebuchet MS",=
sans-serif">I=E2=80=99m perplexed by the references to the =E2=80=9CU=E2=80=
=9D in the engine number in the documents which Scott attached.=C2=A0 The f=
irst attachment states that 3000 Mk I commenced with engine number 29D-U-H1=
01
and ended with 29D-U-H26212.=C2=A0 The second document states that =E2=80=
=9CU=E2=80=9D indicated a center shift gear box.=C2=A0 We know that all Mar=
k I Healeys were side shift; the center shift was not introduced until near=
the end of the Mark II BN7/BT7 run in November, 1961 at engine
number 29E/2246, chassis number BT7/15881 and BN7/16039, per Clausager=E2=
=80=99s book.=C2=A0 Hence, the 2 documents conflict and my confusion over t=
he statement that the =E2=80=9CU=E2=80=9D refers to a center shift box.=C2=
=A0
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Trebuchet MS",=
sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Trebuchet MS",=
sans-serif">Clausager states: =E2=80=9CHowever, the engine prefix was later=
changed, possibly coinciding with the introduction of the six-port engine =
in 1957.=C2=A0 These engines had the prefix 26D, followed by
U on non-overdrive cars, and R (or RU) on overdrive cars, finishing with t=
he letter H for High compression=E2=80=9D (Original Austin Healey, Clausage=
r, 1990, pg. 87).<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Trebuchet MS",=
sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Trebuchet MS",=
sans-serif">Case in point, my BN7, produced 26-28 September, 1960 is chassi=
s number 12656 and engine number 29D-U-H/22855 (my car was originally a non=
-OD car), verified by the BMIHT certificate.=C2=A0
The gearbox is a correct side shift unit.=C2=A0 This is in agreement with =
Clausager=E2=80=99s description.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Trebuchet MS",=
sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Trebuchet MS",=
sans-serif">So, the assertion that U denotes center shift is quite confusin=
g.=C2=A0 Anyone else able to weigh in?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Trebuchet MS",=
sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Trebuchet MS",=
sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Bruce Steele<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Trebuchet MS",=
sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Brea, CA<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Trebuchet MS",=
sans-serif;color:#1f497d">1960 BN7<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-family:"Trebuchet MS",=
sans-serif"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
<div>
<div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"=
;Calibri",sans-serif">From:</span></b><span style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;=
font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif"> Healeys [<a href=3D"mailto:hea=
leys-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">mailto:he=
aleys-bounces@autox.team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>J. Scott Morris<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, December 24, 2018 8:18 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> mitch <<a href=3D"mailto:dayton21@comcast.net"; target=3D"_bla=
nk" rel=3D"noreferrer">dayton21@comcast.net</a>>;
<a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferr=
er">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] engine identification<u></u><u></u></span></p=
>
</div>
</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u>=C2=A0<u></u></p>
<div>
<div id=3D"m_1856563438236157543yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1545664733618_15725">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:"Garamond",serif;color:black">Hello Mitch and Seasons Greetings=
.=C2=A0
<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div id=3D"m_1856563438236157543yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1545664733618_15724">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:"Garamond",serif;color:black">The attached files may help a lit=
tle but the casting numbers are not related to sequential engine production=
.=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div id=3D"m_1856563438236157543yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1545664733618_15723">
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:"Garamond",serif;color:black">--Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, =
Canada=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 - Keep S=
miling, Murphy Lives<u></u><u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black"><u></u>=C2=
=A0<u></u></span></p>
</div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-size:=
10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black">On Monday, Dec=
ember 24, 2018 7:39 AM, mitch <<a href=3D"mailto:dayton21@comcast.net"; t=
arget=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer">dayton21@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</sp=
an><span style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"=
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</div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white"><spa=
n style=3D"font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black"><u></u=
>=C2=A0<u></u></span></p>
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<div id=3D"m_1856563438236157543yiv4990789953">
<div>
<div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Hello<u></u><u></u></span><=
/p>
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y:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">=C2=A0<u></u><u></u></span>=
</p>
</div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">How do you ID an engine blo=
ck/or head=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6that does not have an ID tag?<u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p>
</div>
<div>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-famil=
y:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black">Do the engine block casting=
numbers mean anything?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"background:white"><span style=3D"font-famil=
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