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Well, that clears things up! Thanks for the additional detail. =20
=20
Bruce Steele
Brea, CA
1960 BN7
=20
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris =
Dimmock
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 5:22 PM
To: BJ8Healeys <sbyers@ec.rr.com>
Cc: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] engine identification
=20
Exactly! Centre shift is floor located, As opposed to Column shift (as =
on sedans)
Sent from my iPhone
On 25 Dec 2018, at 9:29 pm, BJ8Healeys <sbyers@ec.rr.com =
The "U" code applies to all of BMC cars, not just Healeys. Some of =
those cars have a gearshift on the steering column, some on the floor. =
"Center shift" as applied to the "U" means a floor shift, not the =
position of the gear lever on the floor.
=20
Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC =20
=20
=20
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Bruce =
Steele
Sent: Tuesday, December 25, 2018 1:51 AM
To: 'J. Scott Morris'; 'mitch'; healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] engine identification
=20
I=E2=80=99m perplexed by the references to the =E2=80=9CU=E2=80=9D in =
the engine number in the documents which Scott attached. The first =
attachment states that 3000 Mk I commenced with engine number 29D-U-H101 =
and ended with 29D-U-H26212. The second document states that =
=E2=80=9CU=E2=80=9D indicated a center shift gear box. We know that all =
Mark I Healeys were side shift; the center shift was not introduced =
until near the end of the Mark II BN7/BT7 run in November, 1961 at =
engine number 29E/2246, chassis number BT7/15881 and BN7/16039, per =
Clausager=E2=80=99s book. Hence, the 2 documents conflict and my =
confusion over the statement that the =E2=80=9CU=E2=80=9D refers to a =
center shift box. =20
=20
Clausager states: =E2=80=9CHowever, the engine prefix was later changed, =
possibly coinciding with the introduction of the six-port engine in =
1957. These engines had the prefix 26D, followed by U on non-overdrive =
cars, and R (or RU) on overdrive cars, finishing with the letter H for =
High compression=E2=80=9D (Original Austin Healey, Clausager, 1990, pg. =
87).
=20
Case in point, my BN7, produced 26-28 September, 1960 is chassis number =
12656 and engine number 29D-U-H/22855 (my car was originally a non-OD =
car), verified by the BMIHT certificate. The gearbox is a correct side =
shift unit. This is in agreement with Clausager=E2=80=99s description.
=20
So, the assertion that U denotes center shift is quite confusing. =
Anyone else able to weigh in?
=20
Bruce Steele
Brea, CA
1960 BN7
=20
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of J. =
Scott Morris
Sent: Monday, December 24, 2018 8:18 AM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] engine identification
=20
Hello Mitch and Seasons Greetings. =20
The attached files may help a little but the casting numbers are not =
related to sequential engine production.=20
--Scott Morris; Simcoe, Ontario, Canada - Keep Smiling, Murphy =
Lives
=20
On Monday, December 24, 2018 7:39 AM, mitch <dayton21@comcast.net =
=20
Hello
=20
How do you ID an engine block/or head=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6that does not =
have an ID tag?
Do the engine block casting numbers mean anything?
=20
Mitchell
=20
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>Well, that clears things =
up!=C2=A0 Thanks for the additional detail.=C2=A0 =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bruce Steele<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Brea, CA<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>1960 BN7<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>Chris Dimmock<br><b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, December 25, 2018 5:22 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> BJ8Healeys <sbyers@ec.rr.com><br><b>Cc:</b> =
healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] engine =
identification<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Exactly! Centre shift is floor located, As opposed to =
Column shift (as on sedans)<br><br>Sent from my =
iPhone<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 25 Dec 2018, at 9:29 pm, =
BJ8Healeys <<a =
href=3D"mailto:sbyers@ec.rr.com";>sbyers@ec.rr.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>The "U" code applies to all of BMC =
cars, not just Healeys. Some of those cars have a gearshift on the =
steering column, some on the floor. "Center shift" as =
applied to the "U" means a floor shift, not the position of =
the gear lever on the floor.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Steve Byers</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>HBJ8L/36666</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>BJ8 Registry</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>AHCA Delegate at Large</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic =
Sans MS";color:#002060'>Havelock, NC </span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#002060'=
> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Comic Sans =
MS";color:#002060'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'>From:</span></=
b><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif'> =
Healeys [<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:healeys-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Bruce Steele<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Tuesday, December 25, 2018 1:51 AM<br><b>To:</b> 'J. Scott Morris'; =
'mitch'; <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>S=
ubject:</b> Re: [Healeys] engine =
identification</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>I=E2=80=99m perplexed by =
the references to the =E2=80=9CU=E2=80=9D in the engine number in the =
documents which Scott attached. The first attachment states that =
3000 Mk I commenced with engine number 29D-U-H101 and ended with =
29D-U-H26212. The second document states that =E2=80=9CU=E2=80=9D =
indicated a center shift gear box. We know that all Mark I Healeys =
were side shift; the center shift was not introduced until near the end =
of the Mark II BN7/BT7 run in November, 1961 at engine number 29E/2246, =
chassis number BT7/15881 and BN7/16039, per Clausager=E2=80=99s book. =
Hence, the 2 documents conflict and my confusion over the =
statement that the =E2=80=9CU=E2=80=9D refers to a center shift =
box. </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>Clausager states: =
=E2=80=9CHowever, the engine prefix was later changed, possibly =
coinciding with the introduction of the six-port engine in 1957. =
These engines had the prefix 26D, followed by U on non-overdrive cars, =
and R (or RU) on overdrive cars, finishing with the letter H for High =
compression=E2=80=9D (Original Austin Healey, Clausager, 1990, pg. =
87).</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>Case in point, my BN7, =
produced 26-28 September, 1960 is chassis number 12656 and engine number =
29D-U-H/22855 (my car was originally a non-OD car), verified by the =
BMIHT certificate. The gearbox is a correct side shift unit. =
This is in agreement with Clausager=E2=80=99s =
description.</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet MS",sans-serif'>So, the assertion that U =
denotes center shift is quite confusing. Anyone else able to weigh =
in?</span><o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Bruce Steele</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>Brea, CA</span><o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif;color:#1F497D'>1960 BN7</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-family:"Trebuchet =
MS",sans-serif'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span><=
/b><span style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> =
Healeys [<a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:healeys-bounces@aut=
ox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>J. Scott Morris<br><b>Sent:</b> =
Monday, December 24, 2018 8:18 AM<br><b>To:</b> mitch <<a =
href=3D"mailto:dayton21@comcast.net";>dayton21@comcast.net</a>>; <a =
href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.net</a><br><b>S=
ubject:</b> Re: [Healeys] engine =
identification</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p><div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1545664733618_15725"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>Hello Mitch and =
Seasons Greetings. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1545664733618_15724"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>The attached files =
may help a little but the casting numbers are not related to sequential =
engine production. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3D"yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1545664733618_15723"><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'>--Scott Morris; =
Simcoe, Ontario, =
Canada - =
Keep Smiling, Murphy Lives</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Garamond",serif;color:black'> </span><o:p></o:=
p></p></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial",sans-serif;color:black'>On =
Monday, December 24, 2018 7:39 AM, mitch <<a =
href=3D"mailto:dayton21@comcast.net";>dayton21@comcast.net</a>> =
wrote:</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><o:=
p></o:p></p><div><div id=3Dyiv4990789953><div><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Hello</span><o:p=
></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><o:=
p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>How do you ID =
an engine block/or head=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6that does not have an ID =
tag?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Do the engine =
block casting numbers mean anything?</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><o:=
p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'>Mitchell</span><=
o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'background:white'><span =
style=3D'font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:black'> </span><o:=
p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
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