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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel pumps (AGAIN!)
From: Kees Oudesluijs <coudesluijs@chello.nl>
Date: Wed, 28 Nov 2018 23:13:37 +0100
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Quite so. The only thing I can come up with is the car is hardly being 
used and being stored in dampish non ventilated conditions, thus 
corroding the points. As I said before I have had SU fuel pumps in from 
more than 50 years old which were absolutely perfect except for the 
points corroded because the car was not used enough or worn because of 
not being adjusted properly.

If used regularly and kept dry internally they last forever.

Another thing: If you have had to tap the pump to get it going, 
replace/polish and adjust the points ASAP. Do not wait until you have to 
repeat the tapping.

When fitting a new SU-pump you best remove the cap to inspect and if 
needed clean the points first with very fine polishing paper, I use at 
least 1000. It is even not uncommon that brand new pumps that have been 
on the shelf for a while, either at home, in the garage or at the 
suppliers do not work because the points are dirty/corroded and have to 
be attended to first. I have bought many pumps that were sold as 
"defective, for spares or repair" for a song, that did not work and 
appeared to be in fact NOS. Cleaning and polishing the points was all 
that was needed for these. If you have a new/rebuild spare pump in store 
, remove the cap and insert a bit of acid free paper in between the 
points, this will stop electrolytic corrosion.

In the late 70´s I was collecting  quite a lot of Jensen parts and got 
presented a new pump by Jensen Parts & Service that was said to be 
defective but only needed some small attention. My old pump kept working 
(more than 160000mls) so the new pump was never needed. About 5 or 6 
years ago I came across that pump and decided to have a look inside. It 
was of course mint but there were real cauliflowers around the points. 
Just polished them, fitted a transil (as I do with all my rebuilds) and 
is now in my present car.


Kees Oudesluijs



Op 28-11-2018 om 18:50 schreef healeydoc@gmail.com:
> I do not understand the problem with the SU pump that everyone feels 
> that they have to re invent the wheel. I have using the standard SU 
> pump with points in my Healey for almost 75000 miles and never had a 
> failure.
> We also have been installing the standard SU points pump here at the 
> shop on every car we do for over 40 years
> Everything from Healeyâ??s, MGâ??s and Jaguarâ??s and had very few failures.
> David Nock
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> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 28, 2018 6:00 AM
> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] Fuel pumps (AGAIN!)
> I found the voltage regulator was misadjusted when i got my car.  At 
> 17V, a new pump quit working in less than a year.  At 14V, the 
> replacement is 10 years old and happily ticking away.
> Tom
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2018, 9:16 PM Frank Magnusson <fmags@cox.net 
>
>     Hi Bob,
>
>     Iâ??m also not sure why youâ??re having problems with pumps.  Maybe
>     something common between all of them; the vent, the ground, the
>     venting of the fuel system, etc.
>
>     I replaced my original pump in the late 80â??s with a stock SU pump
>     with points and itâ??s been on the car ever since; no problems
>     except last year when it didnâ??t want to start, but a rap with a
>     rubber mallet and itâ??s been working ever since.
>
>     Try Healey Surgeons for a replacement pump.  Their parts are 100%
>     correct and Iâ??ve never had a problem with anything from them in
>     almost 30 years.
>
>     Best of luck,
>
>     Frank
>
>     â??65 BJ8
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    <p>Quite so. The only thing I can come up with is the car is hardly
      being used and being stored in dampish non ventilated conditions,
      thus corroding the points. As I said before I have had SU fuel
      pumps in from more than 50 years old which were absolutely perfect
      except for the points corroded because the car was not used enough
      or worn because of not being adjusted properly. <br>
    </p>
    <p>If used regularly and kept dry internally they last forever.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Another thing: If you have had to tap the pump to get it going,
      replace/polish and adjust the points ASAP. Do not wait until you
      have to repeat the tapping.</p>
    <p>When fitting a new SU-pump you best remove the cap to inspect and
      if needed clean the points first with very fine polishing paper, I
      use at least 1000. It is even not uncommon that brand new pumps
      that have been on the shelf for a while, either at home, in the
      garage or at the suppliers do not work because the points are
      dirty/corroded and have to be attended to first. I have bought
      many pumps that were sold as "defective, for spares or repair" 
      for a song, that did not work and appeared to be in fact NOS.
      Cleaning and polishing the points was all that was needed for
      these. If you have a new/rebuild spare pump in store , remove the
      cap and insert a bit of acid free paper in between the points,
      this will stop electrolytic corrosion.</p>
    <p>In the late 70´s I was collecting  quite a lot of Jensen parts
      and got presented a new pump by Jensen Parts &amp; Service that
      was said to be defective but only needed some small attention. My
      old pump kept working (more than 160000mls) so the new pump was
      never needed. About 5 or 6 years ago I came across that pump and
      decided to have a look inside. It was of course mint but there
      were real cauliflowers around the points. Just polished them,
      fitted a transil (as I do with all my rebuilds) and is now in my
      present car.<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>Kees Oudesluijs</p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Op 28-11-2018 om 18:50 schreef
      <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:healeydoc@gmail.com";>healeydoc@gmail.com</a>:<br>
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          <div>I do not understand the problem with the SU pump that
            everyone feels that they have to re invent the wheel. I have
            using the standard SU pump with points in my Healey for
            almost 75000 miles and never had a failure. </div>
          <div> </div>
          <div>We also have been installing the standard SU points pump
            here at the shop on every car we do for over 40 years </div>
          <div>Everything from Healeyâ??s, MGâ??s and Jaguarâ??s and had very
            few failures.</div>
          <div> </div>
          <div> </div>
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          <div style="FONT-SIZE: 12pt; FONT-FAMILY: 'Century'; COLOR:
            #000000">David Nock<br>
            <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" 
href="mailto:healeydoc@sbcglobal.net";>healeydoc@sbcglobal.net</a><br>
            209 948 8767<br>
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            <br>
            Help us have our Founder Norman Nock inducteed into the <br>
            British Sportscar Hall of Fame, You can vote for your
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                <div style="font-color: black"><b>From:</b> <a
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                    href="mailto:ah3000me@gmail.com";
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                <div><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, November 28, 2018 6:00 AM</div>
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                <div><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Fuel pumps (AGAIN!)</div>
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            <div>I found the voltage regulator was misadjusted when i
              got my car.  At 17V, a new pump quit working in less than
              a year.  At 14V, the replacement is 10 years old and
              happily ticking away. 
              <div> </div>
              <div>Tom</div>
            </div>
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              <div dir="ltr">On Tue, Nov 27, 2018, 9:16 PM Frank
                Magnusson &lt;<a href="mailto:fmags@cox.net";
                  moz-do-not-send="true">fmags@cox.net</a> wrote:<br>
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                    <p class="MsoNormal">Hi Bob,</p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Iâ??m also not sure why youâ??re
                      having problems with pumps.  Maybe something
                      common between all of them; the vent, the ground,
                      the venting of the fuel system, etc.</p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">I replaced my original pump in
                      the late 80â??s with a stock SU pump with points and
                      itâ??s been on the car ever since; no problems
                      except last year when it didnâ??t want to start, but
                      a rap with a rubber mallet and itâ??s been working
                      ever since.</p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Try Healey Surgeons for a
                      replacement pump.  Their parts are 100% correct
                      and Iâ??ve never had a problem with anything from
                      them in almost 30 years.</p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal"> </p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Best of luck,</p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">Frank</p>
                    <p class="MsoNormal">â??65 BJ8</p>
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