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Re: [Healeys] Fuel Pumps (AGAIN!)

To: "bspidell@comcast.net" <bspidell@comcast.net>, Healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Fuel Pumps (AGAIN!)
From: Michael MacLean <rrengineer.mike@att.net>
Date: Tue, 27 Nov 2018 10:59:35 +0000 (UTC)
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Bob,=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0Check out the direct replacement German SU style pu=
mps at British Parts Northwest.=C2=A0 I hear they are very reliable..Mike M=
acLean

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android=20
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  On Tue, Nov 27, 2018 at 12:53 AM, Bob Spidell<bspidell@comcast.net> wrote=
:   I've been using fuel pumps with Dave DuBois' opto-electric mods for=20
years.=C2=A0 Although Dave's work and response is impeccable I've not had=
=20
consistent success with them, though everything in the design and=20
implementation indicates they should be infallible.=C2=A0 I had 3 'in=20
rotation;' one failed after less than a thousand miles this summer--I=20
changed it out for another DD conversion on the side of the road--and=20
that one has now failed.=C2=A0 It worked fine after installation for over=
=20
5,000 miles but has sat in my shop for about 5 months, and failed to=20
answer the call today.=C2=A0 I swapped in my last 'spare' and, so far it's=
=20
working though I've only put about 10 miles on it.=C2=A0 Others have worked=
=20
for over 10K miles before expiring.=C2=A0 Apparently, Dave has health issue=
s=20
so cannot address the problems with these pumps.

Although having committed to these solid state conversions I still have=20
plenty of parts to assemble a couple points-driven pumps.=C2=A0 Problem is,=
 I=20
haven't had good luck with them either and, last I checked, the=20
aftermarket points are of suspect quality (Dave concurred with this=20
assessment).=C2=A0 I have studied all aspects of these pumps and done my be=
st=20
to assemble and adjust them, and they aren't abused in service--though=20
some have suffered from getting, er, 'moist' in serious rainstorms--and=20
I just don't understand it (I've 'fixed' a couple in motel rooms).=C2=A0 I=
=20
know Kees and others have gotten years and thousands of mile off points=20
they don't work reliably for me and, yes, I've used capacitors,=20
transistors, diodes and TVSes for spark suppression, all with the same=20
erratic longevity and reliability.=C2=A0 I do think, at over 5K miles/year =
on=20
my BJ8 I probably work my car harder than most but still think I should=20
be able to get more from these pumps.=C2=A0 I don't abuse them aside from=
=20
driving my car fairly frequently and for one long trip of up to 5K miles=20
every year.

Still, I will stick with SU pumps because, well, just because. They are=20
the heartbeat of a Healey and the kind that run continuously are=20
annoying.=C2=A0=C2=A0 But, I don't know where to go from here.=C2=A0 I hate=
 to buy=20
another as I probably have enough parts to assemble 4 or 5 with points=20
(if I could find good quality points).=C2=A0 SC Parts was advertising an=20
aftermarket substitute--diaphragm type--but it has weird fittings--I'm=20
not going to cut into my original banjo-fitted pipes--and is for=20
negative ground only.

Thanks for listening.

Bob

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Bob,<div id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTracker_1543316169969">&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbs=
p;Check out the direct replacement German SU style pumps at British Parts N=
orthwest.&nbsp; I hear they are very reliable..</div><div id=3D"yMail_curso=
rElementTracker_1543316363071">Mike MacLean<br id=3D"yMail_cursorElementTra=
cker_1543316156444"><br><div id=3D"ymail_android_signature"><a href=3D"http=
s://go.onelink.me/107872968?pid=3DInProduct&amp;c=3DGlobal_Internal_YGrowth=
_AndroidEmailSig__AndroidUsers&amp;af_wl=3Dym&amp;af_sub1=3DInternal&amp;af=
_sub2=3DGlobal_YGrowth&amp;af_sub3=3DEmailSignature">Sent from Yahoo Mail o=
n Android</a></div> <br> <blockquote style=3D"margin: 0 0 20px 0;"> <div st=
yle=3D"font-family:Roboto, sans-serif; color:#6D00F6;"> <div>On Tue, Nov 27=
, 2018 at 12:53 AM, Bob Spidell</div><div>&lt;bspidell@comcast.net&gt; wrot=
e:</div> </div> <div style=3D"padding: 10px 0 0 20px; margin: 10px 0 0 0; b=
order-left: 1px solid #6D00F6;"> <div dir=3D"ltr">I've been using fuel pump=
s with Dave DuBois' opto-electric mods for <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">years=
.&nbsp; Although Dave's work and response is impeccable I've not had <br></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr">consistent success with them, though everything in the=
 design and <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">implementation indicates they should=
 be infallible.&nbsp; I had 3 'in <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">rotation;' one=
 failed after less than a thousand miles this summer--I <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">changed it out for another DD conversion on the side of the road--=
and <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">that one has now failed.&nbsp; It worked fin=
e after installation for over <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">5,000 miles but ha=
s sat in my shop for about 5 months, and failed to <br></div><div dir=3D"lt=
r">answer the call today.&nbsp; I swapped in my last 'spare' and, so far it=
's <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">working though I've only put about 10 miles o=
n it.&nbsp; Others have worked <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">for over 10K mile=
s before expiring.&nbsp; Apparently, Dave has health issues <br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr">so cannot address the problems with these pumps.<br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Although having committed to these s=
olid state conversions I still have <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">plenty of pa=
rts to assemble a couple points-driven pumps.&nbsp; Problem is, I <br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">haven't had good luck with them either and, last I checke=
d, the <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">aftermarket points are of suspect quality=
 (Dave concurred with this <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">assessment).&nbsp; I =
have studied all aspects of these pumps and done my best <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">to assemble and adjust them, and they aren't abused in service--th=
ough <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">some have suffered from getting, er, 'moist=
' in serious rainstorms--and <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">I just don't unders=
tand it (I've 'fixed' a couple in motel rooms).&nbsp; I <br></div><div dir=
=3D"ltr">know Kees and others have gotten years and thousands of mile off p=
oints <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">they don't work reliably for me and, yes, =
I've used capacitors, <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">transistors, diodes and TV=
Ses for spark suppression, all with the same <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">err=
atic longevity and reliability.&nbsp; I do think, at over 5K miles/year on =
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">my BJ8 I probably work my car harder than most b=
ut still think I should <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">be able to get more from=
 these pumps.&nbsp; I don't abuse them aside from <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
">driving my car fairly frequently and for one long trip of up to 5K miles =
<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">every year.<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div>=
<div dir=3D"ltr">Still, I will stick with SU pumps because, well, just beca=
use. They are <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">the heartbeat of a Healey and the =
kind that run continuously are <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">annoying.&nbsp;&n=
bsp; But, I don't know where to go from here.&nbsp; I hate to buy <br></div=
><div dir=3D"ltr">another as I probably have enough parts to assemble 4 or =
5 with points <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">(if I could find good quality poin=
ts).&nbsp; SC Parts was advertising an <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">aftermark=
et substitute--diaphragm type--but it has weird fittings--I'm <br></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">not going to cut into my original banjo-fitted pipes--and is =
for <br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">negative ground only.<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Thanks for listening.<br></div><div dir=3D"l=
tr"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob<br></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><div=
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