Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question

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Roger,


At the time manufacturers had a lot less interest in oil leaks than we do n=
ow. Recall that Austin engines never had a mechanical rear main seal and th=
e 2660s just had a thick wad of felt for a front main seal. The interest we=
 have in sealing the mechanical components of the cars is a fairly recent p=
henomenon. Todays owners would like to be able to maintain and present a cl=
ean car. Massive oil leaks mitigate against that, particularly for cars tha=
t see a lot of miles. I know I'd just like to be able to work on the bottom=
 of mine without being covered in grease and road grime.


Bill Lawrence

BN1#554

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From: Healeys <healeys-bounces@autox.team.net> on behalf of Roger Grace <ro=
ggrace@telus.net>
Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2016 4:04:24 PM
To: Michael Salter; Healey List
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question

Tks to all for good input.
Wondering if anyone has thoughts why factory never installed a gasket at th=
is flange joint ?
Any negatives about retro-fitting one after 50 years ?
rg


From: Michael Salter
Sent: Sunday, November 6, 2016 9:38 AM
To: Healey List
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question

Out of interest I just did the calculations for the change in length of the=
 studs in this case.
Assuming:
4 x 5/16" dia studs with an effective diameter of 0.25" each (thread root) =
and a length of 3" (in actual fact only the bottom pair are that long).
0.8 G of braking (which is probably way higher than our tires can generate)
Young's Modulus of 30,000,000 @ 100 degrees F
700 lbs of engine and gearbox (which is probably very high considering that=
 the the mounts are all rubber and the main engine mounts would absorb a fa=
ir bit as well)
Works out to about 0.00028" of stretch.
That's less than 10% of a human hair and only during panic braking if the t=
ie rod is the only thing resisting the load.
I think that there must be other contributing factors...
Michael S
BN1 #174

On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Bluehealey <bluehealey@gmail.com> wrote:
Team.
I can agree that a good goo between the mating faces is important and the J=
apanese Motorcycle manufacturers will probably have the solution nailed.  T=
he root cause however isn=92t necessarily pressure, flange flatness, or goo=
 failure.
It is more likely that the rear reaction strut (not sure what else to call =
it) causes the joint to flex a little and open every time the car slows und=
er braking.  My theory and the solution I adopted can be found here:
http://www.bluehealey.com/Struts.html
No leaks from my gearbox.

AlanB
[cid:image001.png@01D18856.FC90FB60]


From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Roger Gr=
ace
Sent: 05 November 2016 21:02
To: David Porter; Healey List

Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question

Sorry to reopen this, but have this same leak in my BJ8 OD and fixing it is=
 one of my Winter projects.
Given that the black sealant stuff that was used before didn=92t last (have=
 no idea how long ago or what it is) and that there is no oil pressure on t=
he joint, am sensitive to using what is the appropriate goo that will last =
and contain the oil.
Have done some checking around and the Hylomar universal blue is used by so=
me shops that fix OD=92s.
Overdrive Services (ex Laycock people in UK) tell me that the originals wer=
e sealed with a product called Wellseal.
Nowadays they use a Wurth sealant that mentions flange mating in its websit=
e blurb.
BTW they said that they could supply me with a gasket for this joint that s=
eems like a good idea ?

The reality is that these are 2 Al flanges that are mated without a gasket.=
 I wonder why ?. Plan to do some careful flatness checking when have my han=
ds on them.  Has anyone had a problem with the mating flatness ?  do they h=
ave a tendency to warp over the years and maybe abuse too ? given the shape=
 not easy to machine flat - why do they leak ?

Comments/ideas please.
rg


From: David Porter
Sent: Wednesday, October 26, 2016 7:15 AM
To: Bob Spidell ; John Spaur
Cc: healeys
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question


seems like any RTV that is oil compliant will work. There is no internal pr=
essure that will force oil out. The oil level in the OD is just above the o=
perating shaft level, hence the need for the o-rings on the shaft.

DaveP adding to the wisdom....

On 10/26/2016 7:40 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:
Soooooooo ... both types of Hylomar WILL seal the joint?


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From: "John Spaur" mailto:jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net
To: "WILLIAM B LAWRENCE" mailto:YNOTINK@msn.com, "healeys" mailto:healeys@a=
utox.team.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2016 8:27:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question

In my experiences neither of the two types Hylomar will not seal that joint=
.

John Spaur
San Jose

From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of WILLIAM =
B LAWRENCE
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 8:26 PM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Overdrive Question


=85disassembly of the OD because it is seeping oil at the clutch ring. Ther=
e are no gaskets, but I would like to smear some Hylomar on the joint faces=
 to stop the leak.

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<p>Roger,</p>
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<p>At the time manufacturers had a lot less interest in oil leaks than we d=
o now. Recall that Austin engines never had a mechanical rear main seal and=
 the 2660s just had a thick wad of felt for a front main seal. The interest=
 we have in sealing the mechanical
 components of the cars is a fairly recent phenomenon. Todays owners would =
like to be able to maintain and&nbsp;present a clean car. Massive oil leaks=
 mitigate against that, particularly for cars that see a lot of miles.&nbsp=
;I know I'd just like to be able to work on
 the bottom of mine without being covered in grease and road grime.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Bill Lawrence</p>
<p>BN1#554</p>
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t;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 8, 2016 4:04:24 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Michael Salter; Healey List<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question</font>
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<div>Tks to all for good input.</div>
<div>Wondering if anyone has thoughts why factory never installed a gasket =
at this flange joint ?</div>
<div>Any negatives about retro-fitting one after 50 years ?</div>
<div>rg</div>
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<div><b>To:</b> <a title=3D"healeys@autox.team.net">Healey List</a> </div>
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Out of interest I just did the calculations for the change in length of the=
 studs in this case.<br>
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Assuming:<br>
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sans ms,sans-serif">
4 x 5/16&quot; dia studs with an effective diameter of 0.25&quot; each (thr=
ead root) and a length of 3&quot; (in actual fact only the bottom pair are =
that long).<br>
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0.8 G of braking (which is probably way higher than our tires can generate)=
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Young's Modulus of 30,000,000 @ 100 degrees F<br>
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700 lbs of engine and gearbox (which is probably very high considering that=
 the the mounts are all rubber and the main engine mounts would absorb a fa=
ir bit as well)<br>
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sans ms,sans-serif">
Works out to about 0.00028&quot; of stretch. <br>
That's less than 10% of a human hair and only during panic braking if the t=
ie rod is the only thing resisting the load.<br>
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I think that there must be other contributing factors...<br>
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Michael S<br>
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BN1 #174 <br>
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<div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Sun, Nov 6, 2016 at 11:19 AM, Bluehealey <spa=
n dir=3D"ltr">
&lt;<a target=3D"_blank">bluehealey@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;C=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; COLOR: #1f497d">I can agree that a goo=
d goo between the mating faces is important and the Japanese Motorcycle man=
ufacturers will probably have the solution nailed.&nbsp; The
 root cause however isn=92t necessarily pressure, flange flatness, or goo f=
ailure.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; COLOR: #1f497d">It is more likely that=
 the rear reaction strut (not sure what else to call it) causes the joint t=
o flex a little and open every time the car slows under
 braking.&nbsp; My theory and the solution I adopted can be found here:<u><=
/u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; COLOR: #1f497d"><a href=3D"http://www.=
bluehealey.com/Struts.html" target=3D"_blank">http://www.bluehealey.com/<wb=
r>Struts.html</a><u></u><u></u></span></p>
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; COLOR: #1f497d">No leaks from my gearb=
ox.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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quot;Tahoma&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; COLOR: windowtext"> Healeys [mail=
to:<a target=3D"_blank">healeys-bounces@autox.<wbr>team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Roger Grace<br>
<b>Sent:</b> 05 November 2016 21:02<br>
<b>To:</b> David Porter; Healey List</span></p>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question<u></u><u></u></div>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Comic Sans MS&quot=
;">Sorry to reopen this, but have this same leak in my BJ8 OD and fixing it=
 is one of my Winter projects.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Comic Sans MS&quot=
;">Given that the black sealant stuff that was used before didn=92t last (h=
ave no idea how long ago or what it is) and that there is no oil pressure o=
n the joint, am sensitive to using what is the appropriate
 goo that will last and contain the oil.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Comic Sans MS&quot=
;">Have done some checking around and the Hylomar universal blue is used by=
 some shops that fix OD=92s.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Comic Sans MS&quot=
;">Overdrive Services (ex Laycock people in UK) tell me that the originals =
were sealed with a product called Wellseal.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Comic Sans MS&quot=
;">Nowadays they use a Wurth sealant that mentions flange mating in its web=
site blurb.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Comic Sans MS&quot=
;">BTW they said that they could supply me with a gasket for this joint tha=
t seems like a good idea ?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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;">The reality is that these are 2 Al flanges that are mated without a gask=
et. I wonder why ?. Plan to do some careful flatness checking when have my =
hands on them.&nbsp; Has anyone had a problem with
 the mating flatness ?&nbsp; do they have a tendency to warp over the years=
 and maybe abuse too ? given the shape not easy to machine flat - why do th=
ey leak ?<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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uot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;"> Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question<u></u><u></u=
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seems like any RTV that is oil compliant will work. There is no internal pr=
essure that will force oil out. The oil level in the OD is just above the o=
perating shaft level, hence the need for the o-rings on
 the shaft.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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DaveP adding to the wisdom....<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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t;sans-serif&quot;">On 10/26/2016 7:40 AM, Bob Spidell wrote:<u></u><u></u>=
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sans-serif&quot;">Soooooooo ... both types of Hylomar WILL seal the joint?<=
u></u><u></u></span></p>
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if&quot;">&quot;John Spaur&quot; <a target=3D"_blank">
mailto:jmsdarch@sbcglobal.net</a><br>
<b>To: </b>&quot;WILLIAM B LAWRENCE&quot; <a target=3D"_blank">mailto:YNOTI=
NK@msn.com</a>, &quot;healeys&quot;
<a target=3D"_blank">mailto:healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, October 25, 2016 8:27:53 PM<br>
<b>Subject: </b>Re: [Healeys] Overdrive Question<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; COLOR: #1f497d">In my experiences neit=
her of the two types Hylomar will not seal that joint.</span><u></u><u></u>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quot;C=
alibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; COLOR: #1f497d">San Jose</span><u></u>=
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<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 11pt; FONT-FAMILY: &quo=
t;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;">From:</span></b><span style=3D"FONT=
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eys [<a target=3D"_blank">mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.<wbr>team.net</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>WILLIAM B LAWRENCE<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, October 23, 2016 8:26 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a target=3D"_blank">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
<b>Subject:</b> [Healeys] Overdrive Question</span><u></u><u></u></p>
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<p><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Calibri&quot;,&quot;sans-serif&quot;; =
COLOR: #1f497d">=85</span><span style=3D"FONT-FAMILY: &quot;Calibri&quot;,&=
quot;sans-serif&quot;">disassembly of the OD because it is seeping oil at t=
he clutch ring. There are no gaskets, but I would like to smear some Hyloma=
r on
 the joint faces to stop the leak. </span><u></u><u></u></p>
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