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In fact this badge was also used on the BJ 8 hardtop. It was produced by Ree=
ves and Co and they ran a batch few years back on the original tooling. I do=
have a set stamped Reeves and Co and have a set on my hardtop.=20
Current badges have been produced for key fobs by another vendor which is sl=
ightly different but not noticeable by the average eye. I also have a fob fo=
r comparison and color differences.
Ken
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 12, 2016, at 7:48 AM, Chris Dimmock <austin.healey@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>=20
> Hey Patrick.=20
> Snap!
> I've got the one Wally Gates got when he went to Warwick.=20
> It's pretty well used.=20
> Mostly because Wal had this habit of driving the Healey home in summer, dr=
opping his watch and wallet, and then walking fully clothed into his pool...=
.
> He allowed me the same ritual back when I had a bugeye sprite
> Stuffs your leather key ring though!!
>=20
> <image1.JPG>
>=20
>> On 12 Sep 2016, at 5:32 PM, Patrick & Caroline Quinn <p_cquinn@tpg.com.au=
> wrote:
>>=20
>> Hello
>> =20
>> Way back in 1975 when I visited the Donald Healey Motor Company in Warwic=
k I was given a key ring amongst other bits and pieces. It looked like the n=
ormal keyring that is still being produced today with the Union Jack on the t=
op of the words =E2=80=9CDonald Healey Motor CoLtd=E2=80=9D. Some little tim=
e later I realised that instead of Austin-Healey at the top is Jensen-Healey=
in the same script as the Austin-Healey badge. Yes it is hyphenated.
>> =20
>> In the 1974 book =E2=80=98The Jensen-Healey Stories=E2=80=99 by Peter Bro=
wning and John Blunsden it is also hyphenated.
>> =20
>> Thanks
>> =20
>> Patrick Quinn
>> Blue Mountains
>> Australia
>> =20
>> From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris D=
immock
>> Sent: Monday, 12 September 2016 4:01 PM
>> To: Michael Oritt
>> Cc: Austin Healey
>> Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge
>> =20
>> This is interesting trivia!
>> I've never seen an Austin Healey Sprite (certainly 948's and 1100's) with=
a hyphen on their bonnet badges. But my collection of Sprite owners handboo=
ks, special tuning, schedule of workshop hours etc handbooks all have the hy=
phen. But there's no hyphen on the cover of the Workshop manuals....
>> I just think it's a BMC consistency control issue.......
>> I also had a very quick look at some trademark databases. The most recent=
"Austin Healey" and "Austin-Healey" trademark holders - British Motor Herit=
age Limited / Nanjing / SAIC - appear to have/ had both variants as register=
ed trademarks at various times.=20
>> So I'm guessing it's a bigger deal to us than it ever was to Austin / BMC=
- they probably had both variants trademarked too, so it didn't matter.=20
>> So - was Jensen Healey always hyphenated or not??=20
>> ;-)
>> Chris
>> =20
>>=20
>> On 12 Sep 2016, at 9:10 AM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com> wrote=
:
>>=20
>> When I replied just a few minutes ago to Steve Byer's message I did not v=
iew the full string of messages and I see fromold posts attached to Ed Kaler=
's message/site that I have been asking this same question since 2001--which=
is pretty interesting given that I often tend to forget what seemed importa=
nt just a few minutes earlier.
>> =20
>> In any case though I know this issue hardly rises to the level of importa=
nt it is a curious occurrence. I can understand how badges got used out of s=
equence, but since the name "Austin'Healey" was an established brand and pro=
bably protected under UK and/or worldwide patent-trademark laws it makes me w=
onder why BMC would have intentionally changed the name of its product, albe=
it only by the omission of a dash.
>> =20
>> Best--Michael Oritt
>> =20
>> =20
>> =20
>> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Bob Haskell <rchaskell@earthlink.net> wr=
ote:
>> Bob,
>>=20
>> Mk II
>>=20
>> Cheers,
>>=20
>> Bob Haskell
>> AHCA 3000 MkI registrar
>> http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php
>>=20
>> On 09/11/2016 12:51 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:
>> Is a BJ7 a "Mark III" or a "Mark II?"
>>=20
>>=20
>> On 9/11/2016 8:59 AM, Oudesluys wrote:
>> Knowing Jensen, they could have used either badge in the change-over
>> period. They used up old stock and or used what ever was at hand.
>> Kees Oudesluijs
>>=20
>>=20
>> Op 11-9-2016 om 17:09 schreef BJ8Healeys:
>>=20
>> The BJ7 badge had "Austin-Healey", and the BJ8 badge has it without
>> the hyphen. There is only one part number in the BMC parts list for
>> the BJ7 badge, and one for BJ8, so only empirical data would identify
>> if there was a change point in the middle of the models. Previous
>> discussions didn't surface anyone who had a BJ7 badge without the
>> hyphen, or a BJ8 badge with it.
>>=20
>> Steve Byers
>>=20
>> HBJ8L/36666
>>=20
>> BJ8 Registry
>>=20
>> AHCA Delegate at Large
>>=20
>> Havelock, NC
>>=20
>> *From:*Michael Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:44 AM
>> *To:* Gary R. Brierton
>> *Cc:* BJ8Healeys; Healeys
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge
>>=20
>> Now that we are all focused on the badge I would like to put out a
>> question--one that I have asked before and never received what seemed
>> to have been a definitive answer:
>>=20
>> How and when did "Austin-Healey" as written on ...
>>=20
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iv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8"><div>In fact this=
badge was also used on the BJ 8 hardtop. It was produced by Reeves and Co a=
nd they ran a batch few years back on the original tooling. I do have a set s=
tamped Reeves and Co and have a set on my hardtop. </div><div id=3D"App=
leMailSignature">Current badges have been produced for key fobs by another v=
endor which is slightly different but not noticeable by the average eye. I a=
lso have a fob for comparison and color differences.</div><div id=3D"AppleMa=
ilSignature">Ken<br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Sep 12, 2016, a=
t 7:48 AM, Chris Dimmock <<a href=3D"mailto:austin.healey@gmail.com";>aust=
in.healey@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><d=
iv><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3Dutf-8">=
<div>Hey Patrick. </div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Snap!</div><div i=
d=3D"AppleMailSignature">I've got the one Wally Gates got when he went to Wa=
rwick. </div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">It's pretty well used. =
;</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Mostly because Wal had this habit of d=
riving the Healey home in summer, dropping his watch and wallet, and then wa=
lking fully clothed into his pool....<br>He allowed me the same ritual back w=
hen I had a bugeye sprite</div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature">Stuffs your le=
ather key ring though!!<br><br></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><imag=
e1.JPG><br></div><div><br>On 12 Sep 2016, at 5:32 PM, Patrick & Carol=
ine Quinn <<a href=3D"mailto:p_cquinn@tpg.com.au";>p_cquinn@tpg.com.au</a>=
> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><meta http-equiv=3D"Conte=
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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">Hello<o:p></o:p></span></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">Way back in 1975 wh=
en I visited the Donald Healey Motor Company in Warwick I was given a key ri=
ng amongst other bits and pieces. It looked like the normal keyring that is s=
till being produced today with the Union Jack on the top of the words =E2=80=
=9CDonald Healey Motor CoLtd=E2=80=9D. Some little time later I realised tha=
t instead of Austin-Healey at the top is Jensen-Healey in the same script as=
the Austin-Healey badge. Yes it is hyphenated.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">In the 1974 book =E2=
=80=98The Jensen-Healey Stories=E2=80=99 by Peter Browning and John Blunsden=
it is also hyphenated.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">Patrick Quinn<o:p></o:p></s=
pan></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt">Blue Mountai=
ns<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0=
pt">Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"fon=
t-size:10.0pt"><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D"border:none;bo=
rder-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahom=
a","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D=
"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> He=
aleys [<a href=3D"mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net";>mailto:healeys-boun=
ces@autox.team.net</a>] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris Dimmock<br><b>Sent:</b> Mo=
nday, 12 September 2016 4:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> Michael Oritt<br><b>Cc:</b> Au=
stin Healey<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front bad=
ge<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p>=
</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">This is interesting trivia!<o:p></o:p></p></=
div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I've never seen an=
Austin Healey Sprite (certainly 948's and 1100's) with a hyphen on their bo=
nnet badges. But my collection of Sprite owners handbooks, special tuning, s=
chedule of workshop hours etc handbooks all have the hyphen. But there=
's no hyphen on the cover of the Workshop manuals....<o:p></o:p></p></div><d=
iv id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I just think it's a BMC c=
onsistency control issue.......<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSign=
ature"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I also had a very quick look at some trademark=
databases. The most recent "Austin Healey" and "Austin-Healey" trademark ho=
lders - British Motor Heritage Limited / Nanjing / SAIC - appear to have/ ha=
d both variants as registered trademarks at various times. <o:p></o:p><=
/p></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">So I'm guessi=
ng it's a bigger deal to us than it ever was to Austin / BMC - they probably=
had both variants trademarked too, so it didn't matter. <o:p></o:p></p=
></div><div id=3D"AppleMailSignature"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">So - was Jensen=
Healey always hyphenated or not?? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3D"Appl=
eMailSignature"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">;-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3D"Ap=
pleMailSignature"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3D=
"AppleMailSignature"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>On 12 Sep 2016, at=
9:10 AM, Michael Oritt <<a href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>micha=
el.oritt@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style=3D"m=
argin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"color:#3333FF">When I replied just a few minutes ago to Steve Byer's=
message I did not view the full string of messages and I see fromold posts a=
ttached to Ed Kaler's message/site that I have been asking this same questio=
n since 2001--which is pretty interesting given that I often tend to forget w=
hat seemed important just a few minutes earlier.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#3333FF"><o:p> </o:p><=
/span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#3333FF">In=
any case though I know this issue hardly rises to the level of important it=
is a curious occurrence. I can understand how badges got used out of s=
equence, but since the name "Austin'Healey" was an established brand and pro=
bably protected under UK and/or worldwide patent-trademark laws it makes me w=
onder why BMC would have intentionally changed the name of its product, albe=
it only by the omission of a dash.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#3333FF"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div>=
<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:#3333FF">Best--Michael Orit=
t<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"colo=
r:#3333FF"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"color:#3333FF"><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p c=
lass=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Sun, S=
ep 11, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Bob Haskell <<a href=3D"mailto:rchaskell@earthlin=
k.net" target=3D"_blank">rchaskell@earthlink.net</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Bob,<br><br>Mk II<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Bob Haskell=
<br>AHCA 3000 MkI registrar<br><a href=3D"http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000=
mk1.php" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php</a><br>=
<br>On 09/11/2016 12:51 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal">Is a BJ7 a "Mark III" or a "Mark II?"<br><br><br>On 9/11/2016 8:59 A=
M, Oudesluys wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Knowing Jensen, the=
y could have used either badge in the change-over<br>period. They used up ol=
d stock and or used what ever was at hand.<br>Kees Oudesluijs<br><br><br>Op 1=
1-9-2016 om 17:09 schreef BJ8Healeys:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal" s=
tyle=3D"margin-bottom:12.0pt"><br>The BJ7 badge had "Austin-Healey", and the=
BJ8 badge has it without<br>the hyphen. There is only one part n=
umber in the BMC parts list for<br>the BJ7 badge, and one for BJ8, so only e=
mpirical data would identify<br>if there was a change point in the middle of=
the models. Previous<br>discussions didn't surface anyone who had a B=
J7 badge without the<br>hyphen, or a BJ8 badge with it.<br><br>Steve Byers<b=
r><br>HBJ8L/36666<br><br>BJ8 Registry<br><br>AHCA Delegate at Large<br><br>H=
avelock, NC<br><br>*From:*Michael Oritt [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:michael.or=
itt@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>]<br>*Sent:* Sun=
day, September 11, 2016 10:44 AM<br>*To:* Gary R. Brierton<br>*Cc:* BJ8Heale=
ys; Healeys<br>*Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge<br=
><br>Now that we are all focused on the badge I would like to put out a<br>q=
uestion--one that I have asked before and never received what seemed<br>to h=
ave been a definitive answer:<br><br>How and when did "Austin-Healey" as wri=
tten on ...</p><br><p></p></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div>=
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