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The badges of the JENSEN-HEALEY always had the hyphen where applicable,
as on the bonnet, wheels and steering wheel the hyphen was replaced by a
stylised wide H in the middle with JENSEN in the top and HEALEY in the
bottom part of the H. However in documents you will find both Jensen
Healey (e.g. original wiring diagram, maintainance scheme, official
letters etc.) and Jensen-Healey.
This hyphen story on the big Healeys probably is a Jensen thing as they
build the complete bodies, painted, wired, trimmed and all (on the same
line as the Jensen-Haeley was to be build a few years later), for BMC
who just fitted engine and gearbox. The story of the production fault
and subsequent deal with the provider could well be true as Jensen was
always tight for money.
Kees Oudesluijs
Op 12-9-2016 om 8:00 schreef Chris Dimmock:
> This is interesting trivia!
> I've never seen an Austin Healey Sprite (certainly 948's and 1100's)
> with a hyphen on their bonnet badges. But my collection of Sprite
> owners handbooks, special tuning, schedule of workshop hours etc
> handbooks all have the hyphen. But there's no hyphen on the cover of
> the Workshop manuals....
> I just think it's a BMC consistency control issue.......
> I also had a very quick look at some trademark databases. The most
> recent "Austin Healey" and "Austin-Healey" trademark holders - British
> Motor Heritage Limited / Nanjing / SAIC - appear to have/ had both
> variants as registered trademarks at various times.
> So I'm guessing it's a bigger deal to us than it ever was to Austin /
> BMC - they probably had both variants trademarked too, so it didn't
> matter.
> So - was Jensen Healey always hyphenated or not??
> ;-)
> Chris
>
>
> On 12 Sep 2016, at 9:10 AM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com
>
>> When I replied just a few minutes ago to Steve Byer's message I did
>> not view the full string of messages and I see fromold posts attached
>> to Ed Kaler's message/site that I have been asking this same question
>> since 2001--which is pretty interesting given that I often tend to
>> forget what seemed important just a few minutes earlier.
>>
>> In any case though I know this issue hardly rises to the level of
>> important it is a curious occurrence. I can understand how badges
>> got used out of sequence, but since the name "Austin'Healey" was an
>> established brand and probably protected under UK and/or worldwide
>> patent-trademark laws it makes me wonder why BMC would have
>> intentionally changed the name of its product, albeit only by the
>> omission of a dash.
>>
>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Bob Haskell <rchaskell@earthlink.net
>>
>> Bob,
>>
>> Mk II
>>
>> Cheers,
>>
>> Bob Haskell
>> AHCA 3000 MkI registrar
>> http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php
>> <http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php>
>>
>> On 09/11/2016 12:51 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:
>>
>> Is a BJ7 a "Mark III" or a "Mark II?"
>>
>>
>> On 9/11/2016 8:59 AM, Oudesluys wrote:
>>
>> Knowing Jensen, they could have used either badge in the
>> change-over
>> period. They used up old stock and or used what ever was
>> at hand.
>> Kees Oudesluijs
>>
>>
>> Op 11-9-2016 om 17:09 schreef BJ8Healeys:
>>
>>
>> The BJ7 badge had "Austin-Healey", and the BJ8 badge
>> has it without
>> the hyphen. There is only one part number in the
>> BMC parts list for
>> the BJ7 badge, and one for BJ8, so only empirical
>> data would identify
>> if there was a change point in the middle of the
>> models. Previous
>> discussions didn't surface anyone who had a BJ7 badge
>> without the
>> hyphen, or a BJ8 badge with it.
>>
>> Steve Byers
>>
>> HBJ8L/36666
>>
>> BJ8 Registry
>>
>> AHCA Delegate at Large
>>
>> Havelock, NC
>>
>> *From:*Michael Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com
>> *Sent:* Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:44 AM
>> *To:* Gary R. Brierton
>> *Cc:* BJ8Healeys; Healeys
>> *Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front
>> badge
>>
>> Now that we are all focused on the badge I would like
>> to put out a
>> question--one that I have asked before and never
>> received what seemed
>> to have been a definitive answer:
>>
>> How and when did "Austin-Healey" as written on the
>> earlier badges
>> become "Austin Healey" as was done on the badges for
>> later cars?
>>
>> Best--Michael Oritt
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">The badges of the JENSEN-HEALEY always
had the hyphen where applicable, as on the bonnet, wheels and
steering wheel the hyphen was replaced by a stylised wide H in the
middle with JENSEN in the top and HEALEY in the bottom part of the
H. However in documents you will find both Jensen Healey (e.g.
original wiring diagram, maintainance scheme, official letters
etc.) and Jensen-Healey.<br>
This hyphen story on the big Healeys probably is a Jensen thing as
they build the complete bodies, painted, wired, trimmed and all
(on the same line as the Jensen-Haeley was to be build a few years
later), for BMC who just fitted engine and gearbox. The story of
the production fault and subsequent deal with the provider could
well be true as Jensen was always tight for money.<br>
Kees Oudesluijs<br>
<br>
<br>
Op 12-9-2016 om 8:00 schreef Chris Dimmock:<br>
</div>
<blockquote
cite="mid:1F31385E-20CE-4012-8B66-D397311EC712@gmail.com"
type="cite">
<meta http-equiv="Context-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">
<div>This is interesting trivia!</div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">I've never seen an Austin Healey
Sprite (certainly 948's and 1100's) with a hyphen on their
bonnet badges. But my collection of Sprite owners handbooks,
special tuning, schedule of workshop hours etc handbooks all
have the hyphen. But there's no hyphen on the cover of the
Workshop manuals....</div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">I just think it's a BMC consistency
control issue.......</div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">I also had a very quick look at some
trademark databases. The most recent "Austin Healey" and
"Austin-Healey" trademark holders - British Motor Heritage
Limited / Nanjing / SAIC - appear to have/ had both variants as
registered trademarks at various times. </div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">So I'm guessing it's a bigger deal to
us than it ever was to Austin / BMC - they probably had both
variants trademarked too, so it didn't matter. </div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">So - was Jensen Healey always
hyphenated or not?? </div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">;-)</div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature">Chris</div>
<div id="AppleMailSignature"><br>
</div>
<div><br>
On 12 Sep 2016, at 9:10 AM, Michael Oritt <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
<br>
</div>
<blockquote type="cite">
<div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default">When I replied just a few minutes
ago to Steve Byer's message I did not view the full string
of messages and I see fromold posts attached to Ed Kaler's
message/site that I have been asking this same question
since 2001--which is pretty interesting given that I often
tend to forget what seemed important just a few minutes
earlier.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">In any case though I know this
issue hardly rises to the level of important it is a curious
occurrence. I can understand how badges got used out of
sequence, but since the name "Austin'Healey" was an
established brand and probably protected under UK and/or
worldwide patent-trademark laws it makes me wonder why BMC
would have intentionally changed the name of its product,
albeit only by the omission of a dash.</div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default">Best--Michael Oritt</div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br>
</div>
<div class="gmail_default"><br>
</div>
</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Bob
Haskell <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:rchaskell@earthlink.net";
target="_blank">rchaskell@earthlink.net</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote">Bob,<br>
<br>
Mk II<br>
<br>
Cheers,<br>
<br>
Bob Haskell<br>
AHCA 3000 MkI registrar<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php";
rel="noreferrer"
target="_blank">http://www.ciahc.org/registry_<wbr>3000mk1.php</a><span
class=""><br>
<br>
On 09/11/2016 12:51 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:<br>
</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"><span class="">
Is a BJ7 a "Mark III" or a "Mark II?"<br>
<br>
<br>
On 9/11/2016 8:59 AM, Oudesluys wrote:<br>
</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"><span class="">
Knowing Jensen, they could have used either badge in
the change-over<br>
period. They used up old stock and or used what ever
was at hand.<br>
Kees Oudesluijs<br>
<br>
<br>
Op 11-9-2016 om 17:09 schreef BJ8Healeys:<br>
</span>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote"><span class="">
<br>
The BJ7 badge had "Austin-Healey", and the BJ8
badge has it without<br>
the hyphen. There is only one part number in the
BMC parts list for<br>
the BJ7 badge, and one for BJ8, so only empirical
data would identify<br>
if there was a change point in the middle of the
models. Previous<br>
discussions didn't surface anyone who had a BJ7
badge without the<br>
hyphen, or a BJ8 badge with it.<br>
<br>
Steve Byers<br>
<br>
HBJ8L/36666<br>
<br>
BJ8 Registry<br>
<br>
AHCA Delegate at Large<br>
<br>
Havelock, NC<br>
<br>
</span>
*From:*Michael Oritt [mailto:<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";
target="_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.co<wbr>m</a>]<br>
*Sent:* Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:44 AM<br>
*To:* Gary R. Brierton<br>
*Cc:* BJ8Healeys; Healeys<br>
*Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front
badge<span class=""><br>
<br>
Now that we are all focused on the badge I would
like to put out a<br>
question--one that I have asked before and never
received what seemed<br>
to have been a definitive answer:<br>
<br>
How and when did "Austin-Healey" as written on the
earlier badges<br>
become "Austin Healey" as was done on the badges
for later cars?<br>
<br>
Best--Michael Oritt<br>
<br>
<br>
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