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Hello
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Way back in 1975 when I visited the Donald Healey Motor Company in =
Warwick I was given a key ring amongst other bits and pieces. It looked =
like the normal keyring that is still being produced today with the =
Union Jack on the top of the words =E2=80=9CDonald Healey Motor =
CoLtd=E2=80=9D. Some little time later I realised that instead of =
Austin-Healey at the top is Jensen-Healey in the same script as the =
Austin-Healey badge. Yes it is hyphenated.
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In the 1974 book =E2=80=98The Jensen-Healey Stories=E2=80=99 by Peter =
Browning and John Blunsden it is also hyphenated.
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Thanks
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Patrick Quinn
Blue Mountains
Australia
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From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Chris =
Dimmock
Sent: Monday, 12 September 2016 4:01 PM
To: Michael Oritt
Cc: Austin Healey
Subject: Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge
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This is interesting trivia!
I've never seen an Austin Healey Sprite (certainly 948's and 1100's) =
with a hyphen on their bonnet badges. But my collection of Sprite owners =
handbooks, special tuning, schedule of workshop hours etc handbooks all =
have the hyphen. But there's no hyphen on the cover of the Workshop =
manuals....
I just think it's a BMC consistency control issue.......
I also had a very quick look at some trademark databases. The most =
recent "Austin Healey" and "Austin-Healey" trademark holders - British =
Motor Heritage Limited / Nanjing / SAIC - appear to have/ had both =
variants as registered trademarks at various times.=20
So I'm guessing it's a bigger deal to us than it ever was to Austin / =
BMC - they probably had both variants trademarked too, so it didn't =
matter.=20
So - was Jensen Healey always hyphenated or not??=20
;-)
Chris
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On 12 Sep 2016, at 9:10 AM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com> =
wrote:
When I replied just a few minutes ago to Steve Byer's message I did not =
view the full string of messages and I see fromold posts attached to Ed =
Kaler's message/site that I have been asking this same question since =
2001--which is pretty interesting given that I often tend to forget what =
seemed important just a few minutes earlier.
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In any case though I know this issue hardly rises to the level of =
important it is a curious occurrence. I can understand how badges got =
used out of sequence, but since the name "Austin'Healey" was an =
established brand and probably protected under UK and/or worldwide =
patent-trademark laws it makes me wonder why BMC would have =
intentionally changed the name of its product, albeit only by the =
omission of a dash.
=20
Best--Michael Oritt
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=20
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On Sun, Sep 11, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Bob Haskell <rchaskell@earthlink.net> =
wrote:
Bob,
Mk II
Cheers,
Bob Haskell
AHCA 3000 MkI registrar
http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php
On 09/11/2016 12:51 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:
Is a BJ7 a "Mark III" or a "Mark II?"
On 9/11/2016 8:59 AM, Oudesluys wrote:
Knowing Jensen, they could have used either badge in the change-over
period. They used up old stock and or used what ever was at hand.
Kees Oudesluijs
Op 11-9-2016 om 17:09 schreef BJ8Healeys:
The BJ7 badge had "Austin-Healey", and the BJ8 badge has it without
the hyphen. There is only one part number in the BMC parts list for
the BJ7 badge, and one for BJ8, so only empirical data would identify
if there was a change point in the middle of the models. Previous
discussions didn't surface anyone who had a BJ7 badge without the
hyphen, or a BJ8 badge with it.
Steve Byers
HBJ8L/36666
BJ8 Registry
AHCA Delegate at Large
Havelock, NC
*From:*Michael Oritt [mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com]
*Sent:* Sunday, September 11, 2016 10:44 AM
*To:* Gary R. Brierton
*Cc:* BJ8Healeys; Healeys
*Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front badge
Now that we are all focused on the badge I would like to put out a
question--one that I have asked before and never received what seemed
to have been a definitive answer:
How and when did "Austin-Healey" as written on the earlier badges
become "Austin Healey" as was done on the badges for later cars?
Best--Michael Oritt
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Hello<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Way back in 1975 when =
I visited the Donald Healey Motor Company in Warwick I was given a key =
ring amongst other bits and pieces. It looked like the normal keyring =
that is still being produced today with the Union Jack on the top of the =
words =E2=80=9CDonald Healey Motor CoLtd=E2=80=9D. Some little time =
later I realised that instead of Austin-Healey at the top is =
Jensen-Healey in the same script as the Austin-Healey badge. Yes it is =
hyphenated.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>In the 1974 book =
=E2=80=98The Jensen-Healey Stories=E2=80=99 by Peter Browning and John =
Blunsden it is also hyphenated.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Thanks<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Patrick =
Quinn<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Blue Mountains<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'>Australia<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span>=
</b><span lang=3DEN-US =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Healeys =
[mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Chris =
Dimmock<br><b>Sent:</b> Monday, 12 September 2016 4:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> =
Michael Oritt<br><b>Cc:</b> Austin Healey<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: =
[Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne front =
badge<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>This is =
interesting trivia!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>I've never seen an Austin Healey Sprite (certainly =
948's and 1100's) with a hyphen on their bonnet badges. But my =
collection of Sprite owners handbooks, special tuning, schedule of =
workshop hours etc handbooks all have the hyphen. But there's no =
hyphen on the cover of the Workshop manuals....<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>I just think it's a BMC =
consistency control issue.......<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>I also had a very quick =
look at some trademark databases. The most recent "Austin =
Healey" and "Austin-Healey" trademark holders - British =
Motor Heritage Limited / Nanjing / SAIC - appear to have/ had both =
variants as registered trademarks at various =
times. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>So I'm guessing it's a bigger deal to us than it ever =
was to Austin / BMC - they probably had both variants trademarked too, =
so it didn't matter. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p class=3DMsoNormal>So - was Jensen Healey =
always hyphenated or not?? <o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>;-)<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Chris<o:p></o:p></p></div><div =
id=3DAppleMailSignature><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>On 12 Sep 2016, at 9:10 AM, Michael =
Oritt <<a =
href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com";>michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>When I replied just a =
few minutes ago to Steve Byer's message I did not view the full string =
of messages and I see fromold posts attached to Ed Kaler's message/site =
that I have been asking this same question since 2001--which is pretty =
interesting given that I often tend to forget what seemed important just =
a few minutes earlier.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>In any case though I =
know this issue hardly rises to the level of important it is a curious =
occurrence. I can understand how badges got used out of sequence, =
but since the name "Austin'Healey" was an established brand =
and probably protected under UK and/or worldwide patent-trademark laws =
it makes me wonder why BMC would have intentionally changed the name of =
its product, albeit only by the omission of a =
dash.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span style=3D'color:#3333FF'>Best--Michael =
Oritt<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'color:#3333FF'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On Sun, =
Sep 11, 2016 at 2:31 PM, Bob Haskell <<a =
href=3D"mailto:rchaskell@earthlink.net"; =
target=3D"_blank">rchaskell@earthlink.net</a>> =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Bob,<br><br>Mk =
II<br><br>Cheers,<br><br>Bob Haskell<br>AHCA 3000 MkI registrar<br><a =
href=3D"http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php"; =
target=3D"_blank">http://www.ciahc.org/registry_3000mk1.php</a><br><br>On=
09/11/2016 12:51 PM, Bob Spidell wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>Is a BJ7 a "Mark III" or a "Mark =
II?"<br><br><br>On 9/11/2016 8:59 AM, Oudesluys =
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Knowing Jensen, they could =
have used either badge in the change-over<br>period. They used up old =
stock and or used what ever was at hand.<br>Kees =
Oudesluijs<br><br><br>Op 11-9-2016 om 17:09 schreef =
BJ8Healeys:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>The BJ7 badge had =
"Austin-Healey", and the BJ8 badge has it without<br>the =
hyphen. There is only one part number in the BMC parts list =
for<br>the BJ7 badge, and one for BJ8, so only empirical data would =
identify<br>if there was a change point in the middle of the =
models. Previous<br>discussions didn't surface anyone who had a =
BJ7 badge without the<br>hyphen, or a BJ8 badge with it.<br><br>Steve =
Byers<br><br>HBJ8L/36666<br><br>BJ8 Registry<br><br>AHCA Delegate at =
Large<br><br>Havelock, NC<br><br>*From:*Michael Oritt [mailto:<a =
href=3D"mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>]<br>*Sent:* Sunday, =
September 11, 2016 10:44 AM<br>*To:* Gary R. Brierton<br>*Cc:* =
BJ8Healeys; Healeys<br>*Subject:* Re: [Healeys] 3000 Mk III cloisonne =
front badge<br><br>Now that we are all focused on the badge I would like =
to put out a<br>question--one that I have asked before and never =
received what seemed<br>to have been a definitive answer:<br><br>How and =
when did "Austin-Healey" as written on the earlier =
badges<br>become "Austin Healey" as was done on the badges for =
later cars?<br><br>Best--Michael Oritt<br><br><o:p></o:p></p><p =
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