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Date: Wed, 16 Dec 2015 18:05:36 -0500
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Thanks for the link. It is very helpful. We may not have performed step (c) 
correctly.  
Gary Hodson 
 
 
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From: Wilko2 <e-wilkins@cox.net>
Cc: healeys <healeys@autox.team.net>
Sent: Wed, Dec 16, 2015 11:41 am
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Toyota 5-speed conversion



Here are some instructions for that section of the transmission. Toyota calls 
the end of the transmission the "extension" and the tower is the "shifter 
retainer"


http://www.cygnusx1.net/supra/library/tsrm/mk2/manual.aspx?S=MT&P=31


On Dec 15, 2015, at 6:23 PM, richard mayor wrote:



Well..... my experience is a bit different.  

The shift towers come in about 6 different locations. In whatever position it 
is, there is a long shifter rod that extends from the front half into the back 
half of the transmission.  The shifter stick has a ball on the end that goes 
down into a cup, and that cup is at the end of an arm, and that arm is bolted 
to the shifter rod. Depending on the shift tower position, the length of the 
arm is different. You cannot simply bolt on a different shift tower and have 
the stick match up with the cup in the old shifter arm. 

When I converted a Supra transmission (W58 with rear tower position) to a front 
shift tower position (W59 2 wheel drive truck), and I've done this twice, I 
seem to recall that I had to split the transmission in order to remove and 
replace the arm with a completely different length of arm. 



On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 12:44 PM, i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com> wrote:

good luck, not a universal endorsement of your veracity. I think this was a one 
off :)


On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com> wrote:


Ira said:  "Michael is correct."


I am forwarding that to my wife and I am sure it will give her a good laugh.


Best--Michael Oritt




On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 2:00 PM, i erbs <eyera3000@gmail.com> wrote:

Michael is correct. I have a 5 spd on my car. It's about where the shift tower 
is located. It just bolts to the top of the tranny. The only fabricating I did 
was to lengthen the fulcrum point for the slave arm on the side of the tranny.



On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Michael Oritt <michael.oritt@gmail.com> wrote:




Gary--


My "Smitty's Instructions" are not close at hand but my recollection is that 
there are three different locations available for the shifter depending upon 
which tower is used.  None requires any adaption, etc.--they are simply 
alternative Toyota parts.


Best--Michael Oritt
BN1 w/Toyota 5-speed



On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 10:03 AM,  <warthodson@aol.com> wrote:


A friend is installing a Toyota 5-speed conversion kit. One of the changes 
required is installing a forward shift tower & "housing shift" #33521-35221", 
but the instructions do not explain how this is done.  The part we do not 
understand is how to install the new housing shift onto the existing shaft. 
Does the transmission need to be split in half to access the shifter shaft? Has 
anyone done this & could you explain the process? Does anyone know what I am 
talking about?
Thanks,
Gary Hodson 
 


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<div><font face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif" style="background-color: 
transparent;">Thanks for the link. It is very helpful. We may not have 
performed step (c) correctly.&nbsp;&nbsp;</font></div>

<div>Gary Hodson&nbsp;</div>

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From: Wilko2 &lt;e-wilkins@cox.net&gt;<br>
Cc: healeys &lt;healeys@autox.team.net&gt;<br>
Sent: Wed, Dec 16, 2015 11:41 am<br>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Toyota 5-speed conversion<br>
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<div>Here are some instructions for that section of the transmission. Toyota 
calls the end of the transmission the "extension" and the tower is the "shifter 
retainer"</div>

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href="http://www.cygnusx1.net/supra/library/tsrm/mk2/manual.aspx?S=MT&amp;P=31"; 
target="_blank">http://www.cygnusx1.net/supra/library/tsrm/mk2/manual.aspx?S=MT&amp;P=31</a></div>
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<div>On Dec 15, 2015, at 6:23 PM, richard mayor wrote:</div>
<br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote>
<div dir="ltr">
<div>
<div>Well..... my experience is a bit different.&nbsp; <br>
</div>
The shift towers come in about 6 different locations. In whatever position it 
is, there is a long shifter rod that extends from the front half into the back 
half of the transmission.&nbsp; The shifter stick has a ball on the end that 
goes down into a cup, and that cup is at the end of an arm, and that arm is 
bolted to the shifter rod. Depending on the shift tower position, the length of 
the arm is different. You cannot simply bolt on a different shift tower and 
have the stick match up with the cup in the old shifter arm. <br>
</div>
When I converted a Supra transmission (W58 with rear tower position) to a front 
shift tower position (W59 2 wheel drive truck), and I've done this twice, I 
seem to recall that I had to split the transmission in order to remove and 
replace the arm with a completely different length of arm. <br>
</div>

<div class="gmail_extra"><br>

<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 12:44 PM, i erbs <span 
dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; 
target="_blank">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; 
border-left-style: solid;">
<div dir="ltr">good luck, not a universal endorsement of your veracity. I think 
this was a one off :)
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>

<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 11:27 AM, Michael Oritt <span 
dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; 
target="_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 
1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; 
border-left-style: solid;">
<div dir="ltr">
<div><font color="#3333ff">Ira said: &nbsp;</font><i style="color: rgb(51, 51, 
255);">"Michael is correct."</i></div>

<div><i style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><br>
</i></div>

<div><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">I am forwarding that to my wife and 
I am sure it will give her a good laugh.</span></div>

<div><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><br>
</span></div>

<div><span style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">Best--Michael Oritt</span></div>
</div>

<div>
<div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br>

<div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 2:00 PM, i erbs <span 
dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:eyera3000@gmail.com"; 
target="_blank">eyera3000@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 
1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; 
border-left-style: solid;">
<div dir="ltr">Michael is correct. I have a 5 spd on my car. It's about where 
the shift tower is located. It just bolts to the top of the tranny. The only 
fabricating I did was to lengthen the fulcrum point for the slave arm on the 
side of the tranny.</div>

<div class="gmail_extra"><br>

<div class="gmail_quote">
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<div>On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 10:48 AM, Michael Oritt <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a 
href="mailto:michael.oritt@gmail.com"; 
target="_blank">michael.oritt@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
</div>
</div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; padding-left: 
1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 1px; 
border-left-style: solid;">
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<div>
<div dir="ltr">
<div style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">Gary--</div>

<div style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><br>
</div>

<div style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">My "Smitty's Instructions" are not close 
at hand but my recollection is that there are three different locations 
available for the shifter depending upon which tower is used.&nbsp; None 
requires any adaption, etc.--they are simply alternative Toyota parts.</div>

<div style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);"><br>
</div>

<div style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">Best--Michael Oritt</div>

<div style="color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">BN1 w/Toyota 5-speed</div>
</div>

<div class="gmail_extra"><br>

<div class="gmail_quote"><span>On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 10:03 AM,  <span 
dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:warthodson@aol.com"; 
target="_blank">warthodson@aol.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex; 
padding-left: 1ex; border-left-color: rgb(204, 204, 204); border-left-width: 
1px; border-left-style: solid;">
<div>
<div><font color="black" face="arial" size="2">

<div><font style="background-color: transparent;">A friend is installing a 
Toyota 5-speed conversion kit. One of the changes required is installing a 
forward shift tower &amp; "housing shift" #33521-35221", but the instructions 
do not explain how this is done.&nbsp; The part we do not understand is how to 
install the new housing shift onto the existing shaft. Does the transmission 
need to be split in half to access the shifter shaft? Has anyone done this 
&amp; could you explain&nbsp;the process? Does anyone know what I am talking 
about?</font></div>



<div>Thanks,</div>



<div>Gary Hodson </div>



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