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Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8

To: Tom Felts <tomfelts@windstream.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8
From: Alan Seigrist <healey.nut@gmail.com>
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2015 06:45:11 +0800
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It liquifies under load, so probably just heat it up a bit and pour it in.

On Wednesday, June 17, 2015, Tom Felts <tomfelts@windstream.net> wrote:

> OK------so today I went out and bought a tube of John Deere Corn Head
> grease--14oz.   Then I began to wonder how exactly I'd get all this gunk
> into the steering box.
>
> I will try letting the grease sit in the sun and get good and hot and then
> just use a hand grease gun and lots of time to fill it.
>
> Anyone done it differently?
>
> tom
> ---- Earl Kagna <kags@shaw.ca <javascript:;>> wrote:
>
> =============
> Tom:
>
> I agree with all of the responses on the leaking steering box.  ie: if you
> decide to replace parts, do it right - remove the column and do it on the
> bench.
>
> Here is worked for me - several years ago for my tri-carb:  Drain the box
> in
> place - loosen the bolts for the bottom plate enough to allow whatever is
> in
> there to drain.  Allow lots of time for as complete a drain as possible.  I
> left mine for 2 -3 days.  Tighten the bolts and get some light grease - one
> lister recommended some John Deere stuff, I used Penrite steering box lube.
> It's specifically designed for old car steering boxes.  It's pretty thick,
> so I heated it in order to get it to flow so I could get it into the box.
> It's been probably close to 10 years, and the box hasn't leaked yet, and
> the
> steering works just fine.
>
> I'm so impressed with that stuff, that it went into the BJ8's steering box
> and idler upon assembly at the restoration a couple of years ago.  I would
> try this before you start tearing things apart.
>
> Sorry, I can't help with the wheel / noise problem.  I know from personal
> experience that Dayton has had some problems the last couple years, but
> don't know of any problems like you have.  Apparently the MWS wheels are
> much better at this time - I'm told that they come out of the box nice and
> round.
>
> Earl Kagna
> Victoria, B.C.
> BJ8, BT7 tri-carb
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tom Felts
> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 1:53 PM
> To: healeys@autox.team.net <javascript:;>
> Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8
>
> I have recently been hearing a "pop pop" noise coming from the right front
> suspension area when making a slow full right turn.
>
> I do not hear it when making a full turn when the car is on concrete and is
> not moving.
>
> I noted this same condition on my E-Type also.
>
> I have Dayton wire wheels on both and relatively new hubs.
>
> It is not the spinners or a wheel bearing or worn splines.
>
> Several listers on the Jag list have said they had the same problem and
> found that the quality of the Dayton's had gone down and they did not fit
> flush with the hub--thus causing the noise while making a sharp turn.
> Their
> solution was to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and that solved their
> problem.
>
> Question---------have any of you had this problem and if so what did you
> determine was the issue and how did you solve it?
>
> Question #2------The BJ8 steering box is leaking oil (assume bad oil seal)
> and the dust excluder has disintegrated.  Is it possible to replace these 2
> items while the steering box is still in the car by removing the lower nut
> and steering lever?
>
> Thanks for any help.
>
> tom
> 65 BJ8
>
>
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It liquifies under load, so probably just heat it up a bit and pour it in.<=
br><br>On Wednesday, June 17, 2015, Tom Felts &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tomfelt=
s@windstream.net">tomfelts@windstream.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote cla=
ss=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;pa=
dding-left:1ex">OK------so today I went out and bought a tube of John Deere=
 Corn Head grease--14oz.=C2=A0 =C2=A0Then I began to wonder how exactly I&#=
39;d get all this gunk into the steering box.<br>
<br>
I will try letting the grease sit in the sun and get good and hot and then =
just use a hand grease gun and lots of time to fill it.<br>
<br>
Anyone done it differently?<br>
<br>
tom<br>
---- Earl Kagna &lt;<a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, &#39;cvml=
&#39;, &#39;kags@shaw.ca&#39;)">kags@shaw.ca</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
<br>
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>
Tom:<br>
<br>
I agree with all of the responses on the leaking steering box.=C2=A0 ie: if=
 you<br>
decide to replace parts, do it right - remove the column and do it on the<b=
r>
bench.<br>
<br>
Here is worked for me - several years ago for my tri-carb:=C2=A0 Drain the =
box in<br>
place - loosen the bolts for the bottom plate enough to allow whatever is i=
n<br>
there to drain.=C2=A0 Allow lots of time for as complete a drain as possibl=
e.=C2=A0 I<br>
left mine for 2 -3 days.=C2=A0 Tighten the bolts and get some light grease =
- one<br>
lister recommended some John Deere stuff, I used Penrite steering box lube.=
<br>
It&#39;s specifically designed for old car steering boxes.=C2=A0 It&#39;s p=
retty thick,<br>
so I heated it in order to get it to flow so I could get it into the box.<b=
r>
It&#39;s been probably close to 10 years, and the box hasn&#39;t leaked yet=
, and the<br>
steering works just fine.<br>
<br>
I&#39;m so impressed with that stuff, that it went into the BJ8&#39;s steer=
ing box<br>
and idler upon assembly at the restoration a couple of years ago.=C2=A0 I w=
ould<br>
try this before you start tearing things apart.<br>
<br>
Sorry, I can&#39;t help with the wheel / noise problem.=C2=A0 I know from p=
ersonal<br>
experience that Dayton has had some problems the last couple years, but<br>
don&#39;t know of any problems like you have.=C2=A0 Apparently the MWS whee=
ls are<br>
much better at this time - I&#39;m told that they come out of the box nice =
and<br>
round.<br>
<br>
Earl Kagna<br>
Victoria, B.C.<br>
BJ8, BT7 tri-carb<br>
<br>
-----Original Message-----<br>
From: Tom Felts<br>
Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2015 1:53 PM<br>
To: <a href=3D"javascript:;" onclick=3D"_e(event, &#39;cvml&#39;, &#39;heal=
eys@autox.team.net&#39;)">healeys@autox.team.net</a><br>
Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8<br>
<br>
I have recently been hearing a &quot;pop pop&quot; noise coming from the ri=
ght front<br>
suspension area when making a slow full right turn.<br>
<br>
I do not hear it when making a full turn when the car is on concrete and is=
<br>
not moving.<br>
<br>
I noted this same condition on my E-Type also.<br>
<br>
I have Dayton wire wheels on both and relatively new hubs.<br>
<br>
It is not the spinners or a wheel bearing or worn splines.<br>
<br>
Several listers on the Jag list have said they had the same problem and<br>
found that the quality of the Dayton&#39;s had gone down and they did not f=
it<br>
flush with the hub--thus causing the noise while making a sharp turn.=C2=A0=
 Their<br>
solution was to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and that solved their problem=
.<br>
<br>
Question---------have any of you had this problem and if so what did you<br=
>
determine was the issue and how did you solve it?<br>
<br>
Question #2------The BJ8 steering box is leaking oil (assume bad oil seal)<=
br>
and the dust excluder has disintegrated.=C2=A0 Is it possible to replace th=
ese 2<br>
items while the steering box is still in the car by removing the lower nut<=
br>
and steering lever?<br>
<br>
Thanks for any help.<br>
<br>
tom<br>
65 BJ8<br>
<br>
<br>
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