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Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8
From: Michael <michael.salter@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2015 19:11:07 -0400
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Hi Bob and thanks for pointing that out.
I have watched the John Deere video on their grease and must say that it ha=
s definitely made me reconsider what I was taught in my engineering classes=
 so many years ago.
Really looks like neat stuff and next time I encounter a leaking steering b=
ox I intend to give it to try.
Michael S
BN1 #174

-----Original Message-----
From: "Auto Farm" <autofarm@wightman.ca>
Sent: =E2=80=8E15/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=80=8E2015 7:04 p.m.
To: "'Michael'" <michael.salter@gmail.com>; "healeys@autox.team.net" <heale=
ys@autox.team.net>
Subject: RE: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8

               Mike, while I would whole heartedly agree that grease is not=
 a good lubricant for steering boxes, or any gearbox for that matter, the J=
ohn Deere =E2=80=98grease=E2=80=99 that is refered to is quite different an=
d specifically designed for gearboxes.  It is formulated for gear teeth und=
er much higher loads than our steering boxes will ever encounter, and cover=
s the teeth with a visible oily coating.  We have been using it for several=
 years with very good results and no steering box failures=E2=80=A6.. or le=
aking.
Cheers=E2=80=A6Bob Yule Autofarm Ltd.
=20
From: Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of Michael
Sent: June-15-15 8:11 AM
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8
=20
With all due respects to those recommending it for steering boxes grease is=
 not a satisfactory lubricant for any type of precision gearbox.
The reason is very simple.
The pressure on the gear teeth will displace the lubricant from the loaded =
faces so that lubricant must be a liquid to be replenished.
That is why the designers went to all the trouble of installing a seal.
Michael S
BN1 #174



From: Tom Felts
Sent: =E2=80=8E14/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=80=8E2015 5:00 p.m.
To: healeys@autox.team.net
Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8
I have recently been hearing a "pop pop" noise coming from the right front =
suspension area when making a slow full right turn.

I do not hear it when making a full turn when the car is on concrete and is=
 not moving.

I noted this same condition on my E-Type also. =20

I have Dayton wire wheels on both and relatively new hubs. =20

It is not the spinners or a wheel bearing or worn splines.

Several listers on the Jag list have said they had the same problem and fou=
nd that the quality of the Dayton's had gone down and they did not fit flus=
h with the hub--thus causing the noise while making a sharp turn.  Their so=
lution was to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and that solved their problem.

Question---------have any of you had this problem and if so what did you de=
termine was the issue and how did you solve it?

Question #2------The BJ8 steering box is leaking oil (assume bad oil seal) =
and the dust excluder has disintegrated.  Is it possible to replace these 2=
 items while the steering box is still in the car by removing the lower nut=
 and steering lever?

Thanks for any help.

tom
65 BJ8
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 vlink=3D"purple"><div><div style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-=
size: 11pt;">Hi Bob and thanks for pointing that out.<br>I have watched the=
 John Deere video on their grease and must say that it has definitely made =
me reconsider what I was taught in my engineering classes so many years ago=
.<br>Really looks like neat stuff and next time I encounter a leaking steer=
ing box I intend to give it to try.<br>Michael S<br>BN1 #174</div></div><di=
v dir=3D"ltr"><hr><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size=
: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">From: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibr=
i,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:autofarm@wightman.ca";>Aut=
o Farm</a></span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-s=
ize: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Sent: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Cal=
ibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">=E2=80=8E15/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=80=8E2015 7:=
04 p.m.</span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size=
: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">To: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,=
sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;"><a href=3D"mailto:michael.salter@gmail.com";>'=
Michael'</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@autox.team.=
net</a></span><br><span style=3D"font-family: Calibri,sans-serif; font-size=
: 11pt; font-weight: bold;">Subject: </span><span style=3D"font-family: Cal=
ibri,sans-serif; font-size: 11pt;">RE: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Whee=
l Questions--BJ8</span><br><br></div><div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calibr=
i","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbs=
p;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Mike, while I would whole hear=
tedly agree that grease is not a good lubricant for steering boxes, or any =
gearbox for that matter, the John Deere =E2=80=98grease=E2=80=99 that is re=
fered to is quite different and specifically designed for gearboxes.&nbsp; =
It is formulated for gear teeth under much higher loads than our steering b=
oxes will ever encounter, and covers the teeth with a visible oily coating.=
&nbsp; We have been using it for several years with very good results and n=
o steering box failures=E2=80=A6.. or leaking.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: "Calib=
ri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Cheers=E2=80=A6Bob Yule Autofarm Ltd.<o=
:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D'color: rgb(31, 73=
, 125); font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'><o:p>&nbsp;<=
/o:p></span></p><div><div style=3D"border-width: 1pt medium medium; border-=
style: solid none none; border-color: rgb(181, 196, 223) currentColor curre=
ntColor; padding: 3pt 0cm 0cm; border-image: none;"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D'font-family: "Tahoma","sans-serif"; font-s=
ize: 10pt;'>From:</span></b><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D'font-family: "Tah=
oma","sans-serif"; font-size: 10pt;'> Healeys [mailto:healeys-bounces@autox=
.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael<br><b>Sent:</b> June-15-15 8:11 AM<b=
r><b>To:</b> healeys@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Healeys] Steeri=
ng Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal"><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D'font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>With all=
 due respects to those recommending it for steering boxes grease is not a s=
atisfactory lubricant for any type of precision gearbox.<br>The reason is v=
ery simple.<br>The pressure on the gear teeth will displace the lubricant f=
rom the loaded faces so that lubricant must be a liquid to be replenished.<=
br>That is why the designers went to all the trouble of installing a seal.<=
br>Michael S<br>BN1 #174<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div align=
=3D"center" class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"text-align: center;"><hr width=3D"=
100%" size=3D"3" align=3D"center"></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"mar=
gin-bottom: 12pt;"><b><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; f=
ont-size: 11pt;'>From: </span></b><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri","sa=
ns-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'><a href=3D"mailto:tomfelts@windstream.net";>Tom=
 Felts</a></span><br><b><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif";=
 font-size: 11pt;'>Sent: </span></b><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri","=
sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>=E2=80=8E14/=E2=80=8E06/=E2=80=8E2015 5:00 p=
.m.</span><br><b><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; font-s=
ize: 11pt;'>To: </span></b><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri","sans-seri=
f"; font-size: 11pt;'><a href=3D"mailto:healeys@autox.team.net";>healeys@aut=
ox.team.net</a></span><br><b><span style=3D'font-family: "Calibri","sans-se=
rif"; font-size: 11pt;'>Subject: </span></b><span style=3D'font-family: "Ca=
libri","sans-serif"; font-size: 11pt;'>[Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Whee=
l Questions--BJ8</span><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D=
"margin-bottom: 12pt;">I have recently been hearing a "pop pop" noise comin=
g from the right front suspension area when making a slow full right turn.<=
br><br>I do not hear it when making a full turn when the car is on concrete=
 and is not moving.<br><br>I noted this same condition on my E-Type also.&n=
bsp; <br><br>I have Dayton wire wheels on both and relatively new hubs.&nbs=
p; <br><br>It is not the spinners or a wheel bearing or worn splines.<br><b=
r>Several listers on the Jag list have said they had the same problem and f=
ound that the quality of the Dayton's had gone down and they did not fit fl=
ush with the hub--thus causing the noise while making a sharp turn.&nbsp; T=
heir solution was to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and that solved their pr=
oblem.<br><br>Question---------have any of you had this problem and if so w=
hat did you determine was the issue and how did you solve it?<br><br>Questi=
on #2------The BJ8 steering box is leaking oil (assume bad oil seal) and th=
e dust excluder has disintegrated.&nbsp; Is it possible to replace these 2 =
items while the steering box is still in the car by removing the lower nut =
and steering lever?<br><br>Thanks for any help.<br><br>tom<br>65 BJ8<br>___=
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