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Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8

To: Tom Felts <tomfelts@windstream.net>, Earl Kagna <kags@shaw.ca>, "healeys@autox.team.net" <healeys@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8
From: Jean Caron <vintage_roadster_restoration@hotmail.com>
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2015 22:38:57 +0000
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No=2C that is how I do it too=2C I made sure I drained all the oil and then=
 bought a grease gun just for that with a flexible hose and went at it=2C i=
t will take about half the tube.

Jean=20

> Date: Tue=2C 16 Jun 2015 18:24:32 -0400
> From: tomfelts@windstream.net
> To: kags@shaw.ca=3B healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8
>=20
> OK------so today I went out and bought a tube of John Deere Corn Head gre=
ase--14oz.   Then I began to wonder how exactly I'd get all this gunk into =
the steering box. =20
>=20
> I will try letting the grease sit in the sun and get good and hot and the=
n just use a hand grease gun and lots of time to fill it.
>=20
> Anyone done it differently?
>=20
> tom
> ---- Earl Kagna <kags@shaw.ca> wrote:=20
>=20
> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D
> Tom:
>=20
> I agree with all of the responses on the leaking steering box.  ie: if yo=
u=20
> decide to replace parts=2C do it right - remove the column and do it on t=
he=20
> bench.
>=20
> Here is worked for me - several years ago for my tri-carb:  Drain the box=
 in=20
> place - loosen the bolts for the bottom plate enough to allow whatever is=
 in=20
> there to drain.  Allow lots of time for as complete a drain as possible. =
 I=20
> left mine for 2 -3 days.  Tighten the bolts and get some light grease - o=
ne=20
> lister recommended some John Deere stuff=2C I used Penrite steering box l=
ube.=20
> It's specifically designed for old car steering boxes.  It's pretty thick=
=2C=20
> so I heated it in order to get it to flow so I could get it into the box.=
=20
> It's been probably close to 10 years=2C and the box hasn't leaked yet=2C =
and the=20
> steering works just fine.
>=20
> I'm so impressed with that stuff=2C that it went into the BJ8's steering =
box=20
> and idler upon assembly at the restoration a couple of years ago.  I woul=
d=20
> try this before you start tearing things apart.
>=20
> Sorry=2C I can't help with the wheel / noise problem.  I know from person=
al=20
> experience that Dayton has had some problems the last couple years=2C but=
=20
> don't know of any problems like you have.  Apparently the MWS wheels are=
=20
> much better at this time - I'm told that they come out of the box nice an=
d=20
> round.
>=20
> Earl Kagna
> Victoria=2C B.C.
> BJ8=2C BT7 tri-carb
>=20
> -----Original Message-----=20
> From: Tom Felts
> Sent: Sunday=2C June 14=2C 2015 1:53 PM
> To: healeys@autox.team.net
> Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8
>=20
> I have recently been hearing a "pop pop" noise coming from the right fron=
t=20
> suspension area when making a slow full right turn.
>=20
> I do not hear it when making a full turn when the car is on concrete and =
is=20
> not moving.
>=20
> I noted this same condition on my E-Type also.
>=20
> I have Dayton wire wheels on both and relatively new hubs.
>=20
> It is not the spinners or a wheel bearing or worn splines.
>=20
> Several listers on the Jag list have said they had the same problem and=20
> found that the quality of the Dayton's had gone down and they did not fit=
=20
> flush with the hub--thus causing the noise while making a sharp turn.  Th=
eir=20
> solution was to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and that solved their probl=
em.
>=20
> Question---------have any of you had this problem and if so what did you=
=20
> determine was the issue and how did you solve it?
>=20
> Question #2------The BJ8 steering box is leaking oil (assume bad oil seal=
)=20
> and the dust excluder has disintegrated.  Is it possible to replace these=
 2=20
> items while the steering box is still in the car by removing the lower nu=
t=20
> and steering lever?
>=20
> Thanks for any help.
>=20
> tom
> 65 BJ8
>=20
>=20
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<body class=3D'hmmessage'><div dir=3D'ltr'>No=2C that is how I do it too=2C=
 I made sure I drained all the oil and then bought a grease gun just for th=
at with a flexible hose and went at it=2C it will take about half the tube.=
<br><br>Jean <br><br><div>&gt=3B Date: Tue=2C 16 Jun 2015 18:24:32 -0400<br=
>&gt=3B From: tomfelts@windstream.net<br>&gt=3B To: kags@shaw.ca=3B healeys=
@autox.team.net<br>&gt=3B Subject: Re: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Whee=
l Questions--BJ8<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B OK------so today I went out and bough=
t a tube of John Deere Corn Head grease--14oz.   Then I began to wonder how=
 exactly I'd get all this gunk into the steering box.  <br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=
=3B I will try letting the grease sit in the sun and get good and hot and t=
hen just use a hand grease gun and lots of time to fill it.<br>&gt=3B <br>&=
gt=3B Anyone done it differently?<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B tom<br>&gt=3B ---- E=
arl Kagna &lt=3Bkags@shaw.ca&gt=3B wrote: <br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B =3D=3D=3D=
=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D<br>&gt=3B Tom:<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B I agree =
with all of the responses on the leaking steering box.  ie: if you <br>&gt=
=3B decide to replace parts=2C do it right - remove the column and do it on=
 the <br>&gt=3B bench.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Here is worked for me - several=
 years ago for my tri-carb:  Drain the box in <br>&gt=3B place - loosen the=
 bolts for the bottom plate enough to allow whatever is in <br>&gt=3B there=
 to drain.  Allow lots of time for as complete a drain as possible.  I <br>=
&gt=3B left mine for 2 -3 days.  Tighten the bolts and get some light greas=
e - one <br>&gt=3B lister recommended some John Deere stuff=2C I used Penri=
te steering box lube. <br>&gt=3B It's specifically designed for old car ste=
ering boxes.  It's pretty thick=2C <br>&gt=3B so I heated it in order to ge=
t it to flow so I could get it into the box. <br>&gt=3B It's been probably =
close to 10 years=2C and the box hasn't leaked yet=2C and the <br>&gt=3B st=
eering works just fine.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B I'm so impressed with that stu=
ff=2C that it went into the BJ8's steering box <br>&gt=3B and idler upon as=
sembly at the restoration a couple of years ago.  I would <br>&gt=3B try th=
is before you start tearing things apart.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Sorry=2C I c=
an't help with the wheel / noise problem.  I know from personal <br>&gt=3B =
experience that Dayton has had some problems the last couple years=2C but <=
br>&gt=3B don't know of any problems like you have.  Apparently the MWS whe=
els are <br>&gt=3B much better at this time - I'm told that they come out o=
f the box nice and <br>&gt=3B round.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Earl Kagna<br>&gt=
=3B Victoria=2C B.C.<br>&gt=3B BJ8=2C BT7 tri-carb<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B ---=
--Original Message----- <br>&gt=3B From: Tom Felts<br>&gt=3B Sent: Sunday=
=2C June 14=2C 2015 1:53 PM<br>&gt=3B To: healeys@autox.team.net<br>&gt=3B =
Subject: [Healeys] Steering Box and Wire Wheel Questions--BJ8<br>&gt=3B <br=
>&gt=3B I have recently been hearing a "pop pop" noise coming from the righ=
t front <br>&gt=3B suspension area when making a slow full right turn.<br>&=
gt=3B <br>&gt=3B I do not hear it when making a full turn when the car is o=
n concrete and is <br>&gt=3B not moving.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B I noted this =
same condition on my E-Type also.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B I have Dayton wire w=
heels on both and relatively new hubs.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B It is not the s=
pinners or a wheel bearing or worn splines.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Several li=
sters on the Jag list have said they had the same problem and <br>&gt=3B fo=
und that the quality of the Dayton's had gone down and they did not fit <br=
>&gt=3B flush with the hub--thus causing the noise while making a sharp tur=
n.  Their <br>&gt=3B solution was to get new hubs and Dunlop wires and that=
 solved their problem.<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Question---------have any of yo=
u had this problem and if so what did you <br>&gt=3B determine was the issu=
e and how did you solve it?<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Question #2------The BJ8 s=
teering box is leaking oil (assume bad oil seal) <br>&gt=3B and the dust ex=
cluder has disintegrated.  Is it possible to replace these 2 <br>&gt=3B ite=
ms while the steering box is still in the car by removing the lower nut <br=
>&gt=3B and steering lever?<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B Thanks for any help.<br>&g=
t=3B <br>&gt=3B tom<br>&gt=3B 65 BJ8<br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B <br>&gt=3B ______=
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