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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; charset=3D=
utf-8"></head><body dir=3D"auto">SVRA is a business and their business partn=
ers are the suppliers of racing products. Add to that the liability factor i=
f they did not require participants to have =E2=80=9Cproper=E2=80=9D safety e=
quipment and the recipe for increased sales is complete. The rules have alwa=
ys been =E2=80=9Csafety first=E2=80=9D in vintage racing so their rules are a=
djusted to make us replace perfectly good safety items at the earliest date.=
It=E2=80=99s the high ground, and the most profitable.<div><br></div><div><=
br></div><div><div><br></div><div><br id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"=
><div dir=3D"ltr">You only get one chance at life, make it a TRIUMPH.</div><=
div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Feb 26, 2024, at 10:10=E2=80=
=AFPM, Mike Harmuth via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:<br><br></block=
quote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"=
ltr">I just went through an SVRA tech inspection with my friend's MGB at Seb=
ring last weekend. He has a vintage halon system, no SFI/FIA certification s=
tickers on it. One push handle located next to the drivers set on the tranny=
hump, nothing outside the cockpit. He had no problem with the fire system. T=
hey did tell him his FIA, made in 2006, perfectly maintained suit was too ol=
d and needed to be replaced. They would let him run this time but he needed a=
new one for the next event. They're using a 10 year limit on suits, based o=
n the newest (2023) FIA spec. SVRA tried to tell him everyone (SCCA etc) is d=
oing the same thing, even for SFI suits. FIA is only using t=
hat spec for pro events (F1, WEC, Rally) until 2029 then it starts to cover a=
ll <b>FIA only </b>classes. I haven't seen a similar new spec for S=
FI suits at all.<div><br></div><div>BTW, just 14 cars , including 2 Matias, s=
tarted the weekend in the small bore group, about 20 cars, including a coupl=
e of 10 yr old at best Mustangs made up the the big bore group.</div><d=
iv><br></div><div>SVRA is requiring all cars to have Flagtronic systems inst=
alled next year, according to a chat I had with their director of competitio=
n, Alex Miller.</div><div><br></div><div>mike h</div><div><br></div></div><b=
r><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, Fe=
b 26, 2024 at 6:09=E2=80=AFPM Brad Eells via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@a=
utox.team.net">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D=
"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(20=
4,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">I chose AFFF because it was s=
aid to be more effective in open cars.<div><br></div><div>Gas would just blo=
w away, particularly at speed. </div><div><br></div><div><br id=3D"m_-7=
96793409428120231lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Brad Eell=
s<div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D=
"cite">On Feb 21, 2024, at 3:26=E2=80=AFPM, Hank Giffin via Fot <<a href=3D=
"mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wro=
te:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=
=BB=BF<div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">AFFF is very caustic and is used on navy s=
hips to smother fires in engineering spaces. Not really suitable for c=
ars if you want to reuse the car. It=E2=80=99s a mess to clean up.<u><=
/u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> Hank (33 years=
in Navy =E2=80=93 served on 7 ships)<u></u><u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal=
"><u></u> <u></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><di=
v><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;border=
-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">=
<b>From:</b> Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net" target=3D=
"_blank">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>> <b>On Behalf Of </b>R. John Lye v=
ia Fot<br><b>Sent:</b> Wednesday, February 21, 2024 10:53 AM<br><b>To:</b> <=
a href=3D"mailto:vfracing@aol.com" target=3D"_blank">vfracing@aol.com</a>; <=
a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a=
>; <a href=3D"mailto:joealexandervintage@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">joeale=
xandervintage@gmail.com</a>; <a href=3D"mailto:kknight@klaenv.com" target=3D=
"_blank">kknight@klaenv.com</a><br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] *****SPAM***** R=
e: Heads Up! Fire System Requirements for Kastner Cup<u></u><u></u></p></div=
></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u></u> <u></u></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNo=
rmal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black=
">Not to mention the potential for firefighter cancer claims, and worker's c=
omp lawsuits.<br><br>John<br><br> <br><br>On Tue, 20 Feb 2024 2=
3:03:08 +0000 (UTC), vfracing--- via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.tea=
m.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br> <u></u>=
<u></u></span></p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:=
12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-famil=
y:Arial,sans-serif;color:black">Another word to the wise:<u></u><u></u></spa=
n></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-f=
amily:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,san=
s-serif;color:black">Some of the two-pull systems use AFFF. This is a g=
ood fire fighting agent, but by no means the only one. AFFF contains P=
FAS, which is a man-made family of chemicals coming under increasing scrutin=
y for causing health issues. If you use this and dispose of it imprope=
rly it could come back to bite you. Fighting a fire with AFFF is costi=
ng our Town hundreds of thousands of dollars in tracking contamination plume=
s and treating the wells in affected homes.<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><d=
iv><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sa=
ns-serif;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:=
black">See <a href=3D"https://www.consumernotice.org/environmental/afff=
/" target=3D"_blank">Aqueous Film Forming Foam (AFFF) | Toxicity, Exposures a=
nd Illnesses</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><=
span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"> =
;<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div id=3D"m_-796793409428120231ydp9267b53ce=
nhancr_card_9353465361"><table border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D=
"0" style=3D"max-width:300pt"><tbody><tr><td width=3D"400" style=3D"width:30=
0pt;padding:0in"><table border=3D"1" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" sty=
le=3D"max-width:300pt;border:1pt solid rgb(224,228,233)"><tbody><tr style=3D=
"height:105pt"><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"border:none;background:black;padd=
ing:0in;height:105pt"><table border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0=
" width=3D"100%" style=3D"width:100%"><tbody><tr><td valign=3D"top" style=3D=
"padding:0in"><table border=3D"0" cellspacing=3D"3" cellpadding=3D"0" width=3D=
"100%" style=3D"width:100%"><tbody><tr><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"padding:1=
1.25pt 0in 0in 11.25pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <u></u><u></u></p></td>=
<td valign=3D"top" style=3D"padding:11.25pt 11.25pt 0in 0in"><div><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal" align=3D"right" style=3D"text-align:right"> <u></u><u></u><=
/p></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr><tr><=
td style=3D"border:none;padding:0in;border-radius:0px 0px 0px 2px"><div alig=
n=3D"center"><table border=3D"1" cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" style=3D=
"max-width:300pt;background:0% 0%/auto white;border-right:none;border-bottom=
:none;border-left:none;border-top:1pt solid rgb(224,228,233);border-radius:0=
px 0px 2px 2px"><tbody><tr><td valign=3D"top" style=3D"border:none;padding:1=
2pt 0in 12pt 9pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"color:black"> <=
/span><u></u><u></u></p></td><td width=3D"99%" style=3D"width:99%;border:non=
e;padding:9pt 0.25in 12pt 9pt;border-radius:0px 0px 2px"><h2 style=3D"margin=
-right:0in;margin-bottom:4.5pt;margin-left:0in;line-height:14.25pt"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:10.5pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:rg=
b(29,34,40)"><a href=3D"https://www.consumernotice.org/environmental/afff/" t=
arget=3D"_blank"><span style=3D"color:black;text-decoration:none">Aqueous Fi=
lm Forming Foam (AFFF) | Toxicity, Exposures and Illnesses</span></a><u></u>=
<u></u></span></h2><p style=3D"margin:0in;line-height:12pt"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:9pt;font-family:"Segoe UI",sans-serif;color:rgb(151,158,1=
68)"><a href=3D"https://www.consumernotice.org/environmental/afff/" target=3D=
"_blank"><span style=3D"color:black;text-decoration:none">Aqueous film formi=
ng foam (AFFF) is a fire suppressant used to fight flammable liquid fires. T=
oxic chemicals in ...</span></a><u></u><u></u></span></p></td></tr></tbody><=
/table></div></td></tr></tbody></table></td></tr></tbody></table></div><div>=
<p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-=
serif;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:bla=
ck"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"> <u></=
u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-si=
ze:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:black"> <u></u><u></u></span=
></p></div></div><div id=3D"m_-796793409428120231yahoo_quoted_8757662741"><d=
iv><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Hel=
vetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 05:3=
9:57 PM EST, Mordy Dunst <<a href=3D"mailto:gasket.works@gte.net" target=3D=
"_blank">gasket.works@gte.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><=
div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helveti=
ca,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div=
><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,=
sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> <u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><d=
iv id=3D"m_-796793409428120231yiv8158045542"><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,=
42)">Im with Ken=E2=80=A6 <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(=
38,40,42)">Mordy<br><br> <u></u><u></u></span></p><div><p class=3D"Mso=
Normal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color=
:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weat=
her-video/id646100661" target=3D"_blank">Sent from the all new AOL app for i=
OS</a><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"f=
ont-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> <=
u></u><u></u></span></p><div id=3D"m_-796793409428120231yiv8158045542yqt3593=
7"><p style=3D"margin-top:0in"><span style=3D"font-size:11.5pt;font-family:H=
elvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(113,95,250)">On Tuesday, February 20, 2024, 1:=
49 PM, Ken Knight via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target=3D=
"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></span></p><blockquo=
te style=3D"margin-top:5pt;margin-bottom:5pt"><div id=3D"m_-7967934094281202=
31yiv8158045542"><div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helv=
etica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">So with a very short time get this don=
e, this is the New rule? Had we known this, oh say last fall, it could=
have been a winter project. Some of this is not hard but sending your=
system off to get a recertification could very well be a major problem in t=
hese times. So what is the alternative, buy a new system? Some o=
f us have already committed to race with our home clubs in mid March, then i=
t is a short turn around until Sonoma. Pretty well leaves us in a majo=
r bind as far I can tell, not to mention a potential large expense.<u></u><u=
></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-=
serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"=
font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">We were=
encouraged to sign up for the K Cup with SVRA, plus Laguna, under the assum=
ption that if our cars were legal in our home clubs they would be allowed to=
run as is. Dropping this mandatory rule on us at the last minute does=
not sit well. No one wants to be unsafe, I don=E2=80=99t think the ru=
le is that unreasonable, but the timing to get this done is unreasonable.<u>=
</u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica=
,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span sty=
le=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">K=
en<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helv=
etica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> <u></u><u></u></span></p><p><spa=
n style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,4=
2)">Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986" t=
arget=3D"_blank">Mail</a> for Windows<u></u><u></u></span></p><p><span style=
=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">&nb=
sp;<u></u><u></u></span></p><div id=3D"m_-796793409428120231yiv8158045542yqt=
15940"><div style=3D"border-right:none;border-bottom:none;border-left:none;b=
order-top:1pt solid rgb(225,225,225);padding:3pt 0in 0in"><p><b><span style=3D=
"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">From: <=
/span></b><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;col=
or:rgb(38,40,42)"><a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">vf=
racing--- via Fot</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, February 20, 2024 12:46 PM<br=
><b>To: </b><a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank">FOT Triu=
mph</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[Fot] Heads Up! Fire System Requirements for Kast=
ner Cup<u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-=
family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> <u></u><u></u></span>=
</p><div><div id=3D"m_-796793409428120231yiv8158045542ydpcd388636yiv18855516=
11"><div><div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-s=
erif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Advanced warning:</span><span style=3D"font-size:1=
0pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u><u></u></sp=
an></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-se=
rif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">The SVRA rules on fire systems are much more strict=
than SCCA and some of the other sanctioning bodies such as VRG. Notab=
ly, plumbed in systems are required, and they must have two activation point=
s, one accessible to the driver and the other accessible to a course worker w=
ithout having to lean into the car. Furthermore, they must be re-certi=
fied every two years. Note that these are requirements, not recommenda=
tions, and new this year (2024)</span><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-fam=
ily:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div=
><div><p><span style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rg=
b(38,40,42)"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetic=
a,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><sp=
an style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
>For more detail, please see Section L of Safety Requirements at <a hre=
f=3D"https://svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SVRA-General-Rules-1_24.pdf=
" target=3D"_blank">https://svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SVRA-General=
-Rules-1_24.pdf</a>.</span><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helveti=
ca,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><s=
pan style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)=
"> </span><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-seri=
f;color:rgb(38,40,42)"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D=
"font-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Regards,</=
span><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rg=
b(38,40,42)"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><div><p><span style=3D"font-size=
:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> </span><span s=
tyle=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"=
><u></u><u></u></span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p><span style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12pt;font-family:Arial,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)">Phil Gott</sp=
an><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(=
38,40,42)"><u></u><u></u></span></p></div><p><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;f=
ont-family:Helvetica,sans-serif;color:rgb(38,40,42)"> <u></u><u></u></s=
pan></p></div></div></div><div id=3D"m_-796793409428120231yiv8158045542yqt66=
407"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10pt;font-family:Helvet=
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