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pretty late to suddenly offer up a rule change that although is good for s=
afety, it's just another pita for many racers who are already running event=
s / if the original entry allowed rules from wherever you come from then it=
's in writing and should be honored / someone got a bug up the backside and=
got stung and wants to sting everyone else / imho
Ralph
On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 04:36:24 PM CST, Brad Eells via Fot <f=
ot@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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Interesting, as this may be an issue for the K-Cup this year. Running at S=
onoma with SVRA 8 weeks from now.
That said, when rebuilding the Spitfire, I chose an SPA aqueous foam system=
with 4 distribution nozzles and 3 actuators; one outside, one on the dash =
and the bottle handle itself.
Brad EellsSent from my iPhone
On Feb 20, 2024, at 3:31=E2=80=AFPM, Ken Knight via Fot <fot@autox.team.net=
> wrote:
=EF=BB=BF
So with a very short time get this done, this is the New rule?=C2=A0 Had we=
known this, oh say last fall, it could have been a winter project.=C2=A0 S=
ome of this is not hard but sending your system off to get a recertificatio=
n could very well be a major problem in these times.=C2=A0 So what is the a=
lternative, buy a new system?=C2=A0 Some of us have already committed to ra=
ce with our home clubs in mid March, then it is a short turn around until S=
onoma.=C2=A0 Pretty well leaves us in a major bind as far I can tell, not t=
o mention a potential large expense.
=C2=A0
We were encouraged to sign up for the K Cup with SVRA, plus Laguna, under t=
he assumption that if our cars were legal in our home clubs they would be a=
llowed to run as is.=C2=A0 Dropping this mandatory rule on us at the last m=
inute does not sit well.=C2=A0 No one wants to be unsafe, I don=E2=80=99t t=
hink the rule is that unreasonable, but the timing to get this done is unre=
asonable.
=C2=A0
Ken
=C2=A0
Sent from Mail for Windows
=C2=A0
From: vfracing--- via Fot
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2024 12:46 PM
To: FOT Triumph
Subject: [Fot] Heads Up! Fire System Requirements for Kastner Cup
=C2=A0
Advanced warning:
The SVRA rules on fire systems are much more strict than SCCA and some of t=
he other sanctioning bodies such as VRG. =C2=A0Notably, plumbed in systems =
are required, and they must have two activation points, one accessible to t=
he driver and the other accessible to a course worker without having to lea=
n into the car. =C2=A0Furthermore, they must be re-certified every two year=
s. =C2=A0Note that these are requirements, not recommendations, and new thi=
s year (2024)
=C2=A0
For more detail, please see Section L of Safety Requirements at=C2=A0https:=
//svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SVRA-General-Rules-1_24.pdf.
=C2=A0
Regards,
=C2=A0
Phil Gott
=C2=A0
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r up a rule change that although is good for safety, it's just another pita=
for many racers who are already running events / if the original entry all=
owed rules from wherever you come from then it's in writing and should be h=
onored / someone got a bug up the backside and got stung and wants to sting=
everyone else / imho</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div=
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On Tuesday, February 20, 2024 at 04:36:24 PM CST, Brad =
Eells via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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<div><div id=3D"ydp6eb7b6ecyiv0539908688"><div>Interesting,=
as this may be an issue for the K-Cup this year. Running at Sonoma with SV=
RA 8 weeks from now.<div><br></div><div>That said, when rebuilding the Spit=
fire, I chose an SPA aqueous foam system with 4 distribution nozzles and 3 =
actuators; one outside, one on the dash and the bottle handle itself.</div>=
<div><br id=3D"ydp6eb7b6ecyiv0539908688lineBreakAtBeginningOfSignature"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr">Brad Eells<div>Sent from my iPhone</div></div><div dir=3D"ltr=
"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Feb 20, 2024, at 3:31=E2=80=AFPM, Ken Kn=
ight via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><b=
lockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div class=3D"ydp6eb7b6ec=
yiv0539908688WordSection1"><p class=3D"ydp6eb7b6ecyiv0539908688MsoNormal">S=
o with a very short time get this done, this is the New rule? Had we =
known this, oh say last fall, it could have been a winter project. So=
me of this is not hard but sending your system off to get a recertification=
could very well be a major problem in these times. So what is the al=
ternative, buy a new system? Some of us have already committed to rac=
e with our home clubs in mid March, then it is a short turn around until So=
noma. Pretty well leaves us in a major bind as far I can tell, not to=
mention a potential large expense.</p><p class=3D"ydp6eb7b6ecyiv0539908688=
MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydp6eb7b6ecyiv0539908688MsoNormal">We wer=
e encouraged to sign up for the K Cup with SVRA, plus Laguna, under the ass=
umption that if our cars were legal in our home clubs they would be allowed=
to run as is. Dropping this mandatory rule on us at the last minute =
does not sit well. No one wants to be unsafe, I don=E2=80=99t think t=
he rule is that unreasonable, but the timing to get this done is unreasonab=
le.</p><p class=3D"ydp6eb7b6ecyiv0539908688MsoNormal"> </p><p class=
=3D"ydp6eb7b6ecyiv0539908688MsoNormal">Ken</p><p class=3D"ydp6eb7b6ecyiv053=
9908688MsoNormal"> </p><p class=3D"ydp6eb7b6ecyiv0539908688MsoNormal"=
>Sent from <a href=3D"https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=3D550986"; rel=
=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">Mail</a> for Windows</p><p class=3D"ydp6eb7=
b6ecyiv0539908688MsoNormal"> </p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top=
:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><p style=3D"border:none;pa=
dding:0in;" class=3D"ydp6eb7b6ecyiv0539908688MsoNormal"><b>From: </b><a hre=
f=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">vfracing=
--- via Fot</a><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, February 20, 2024 12:46 PM<br><b>T=
o: </b><a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_bl=
ank">FOT Triumph</a><br><b>Subject: </b>[Fot] Heads Up! Fire System Require=
ments for Kastner Cup</p></div><p class=3D"ydp6eb7b6ecyiv0539908688MsoNorma=
l"> </p><div><div id=3D"ydp6eb7b6ecyiv0539908688ydpcd388636yiv1885551=
611"><div><div><div><p class=3D"ydp6eb7b6ecyiv0539908688MsoNormal"><span st=
yle=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Advanced warning:</span></=
p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp6eb7b6ecyiv0539908688MsoNormal"><span style=3D"=
font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">The SVRA rules on fire systems ar=
e much more strict than SCCA and some of the other sanctioning bodies such =
as VRG. Notably, plumbed in systems are required, and they must have =
two activation points, one accessible to the driver and the other accessibl=
e to a course worker without having to lean into the car. Furthermore=
, they must be re-certified every two years. Note that these are requ=
irements, not recommendations, and new this year (2024)</span></p></div><di=
v><p class=3D"ydp6eb7b6ecyiv0539908688MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:1=
2.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp=
6eb7b6ecyiv0539908688MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family=
:sans-serif;">For more detail, please see Section L of Safety Requirements =
at <a href=3D"https://svra.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/SVRA-General=
-Rules-1_24.pdf" rel=3D"nofollow" target=3D"_blank">https://svra.com/wp-con=
tent/uploads/2024/01/SVRA-General-Rules-1_24.pdf</a>.</span></p></div><div>=
<p class=3D"ydp6eb7b6ecyiv0539908688MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.=
0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> </span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp6e=
b7b6ecyiv0539908688MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:s=
ans-serif;">Regards,</span></p></div><div><p class=3D"ydp6eb7b6ecyiv0539908=
688MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;"> &nb=
sp;</span></p></div></div></div></div></div><p class=3D"ydp6eb7b6ecyiv05399=
08688MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:12.0pt;font-family:sans-serif;">Ph=
il Gott</span></p><p class=3D"ydp6eb7b6ecyiv0539908688MsoNormal"> </p=
></div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><spa=
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