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To: "fot@autox.team.net" <fot@autox.team.net>, Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com>, Jack Wheeler <jwheeler1947@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Frame paint
From: Bert Brown via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2023 23:14:29 +0000 (UTC)
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 Dupont Imron should be used with a supplied air respirator, not just an ai=
r purifying respirator.=C2=A0 Imron is one of the best.=C2=A0 If you don't =
know the difference I encourage you to research respirators at your local p=
aint store.
I have had good luck just using PPG DP90 epoxy primer as a frame paint, it =
is a direct to metal (DTM) paint and is durable.=C2=A0=C2=A0I hate applying=
 POR15, but I admit I do use it for touchup.
Bert Brown
    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 09:12:58 AM PDT, Jack Wheeler via Fo=
t <fot@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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  I don't know if it is even still available, but years ago I painted the f=
rame on my race car with Dupont Imron.=C2=A0 It was the most durable paint =
available at the time, and my experience reflected that.=C2=A0 The stuff is=
 very toxic, so you must use a very good respirator.
Jack

    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 02:28:28 AM EDT, Tony Drews via Fot =
<fot@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
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Grey will show cracks better than black.=C2=A0 POR is the first thing that =
came to mind for me, but it's been YEARS since I used it.
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Cheers, Tony
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 On 9/27/2023 10:21 PM, DAVE HOGYE via Fot wrote:
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 I'd suggest POR 15.=C2=A0 Depending on the color, the number changes.=C2=
=A0 I think 15 is black.=C2=A0 Gray is something else, maybe 10.=C2=A0 Spra=
y or brush on.=C2=A0 I've used Rustoleum as the touchup rattle spray cans a=
re perfectly matched to the quart cans, and you can get it just about anywh=
ere.=C2=A0 POR products might be a little more durable than Rustoleum.=C2=
=A0 If the frame is bare metal, an epoxy primer is a good start, but with P=
OR I "think" you can skip the primer.=C2=A0=C2=A0   Dave H.=C2=A0=C2=A0   =
=C2=A0   On 09/27/2023 5:55 PM PDT McKearn McKearn via Fot <fot@autox.team.=
net> wrote:    =C2=A0   =C2=A0   Hi All.=20
  =C2=A0 It's been a long time since I've painted a frame and I'm just wond=
ering what the latest / greatest thing to use is for a race car frame ? It'=
s already=C2=A0sand blasted if that matters..   =C2=A0 =C2=A0Thanks.=C2=A0 =
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<html><head></head><body><div class=3D"ydpc2b8d096yahoo-style-wrap" style=
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        <div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Dupont Imron should be used =
with a supplied air respirator, not just an air purifying respirator.&nbsp;=
 Imron is one of the best.&nbsp; If you don't know the difference I encoura=
ge you to research respirators at your local paint store.</div><div dir=3D"=
ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"=
>I have had good luck just using PPG DP90 epoxy primer as a frame paint, it=
 is a direct to metal (DTM) paint and is durable.&nbsp;&nbsp;</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">I hate applying POR15, but I admit I do use =
it for touchup.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false"><br></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false">Bert Brown</div><div><br></div>
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                <div>
                    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 09:12:58 AM PDT, Jac=
k Wheeler via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
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                <div><br></div>
                <div><br></div>
                <div><div id=3D"yiv2627968742"><div><div style=3D"font-fami=
ly:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:13px;" class=3D"y=
iv2627968742ydpba2ca5ebyahoo-style-wrap"><div></div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr">I don't know if it is even still available, but ye=
ars ago I painted the frame on my race car with Dupont Imron.&nbsp; It was =
the most durable paint available at the time, and my experience reflected t=
hat.&nbsp; The stuff is very toxic, so you must use a very good respirator.=
</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr">Jack<br cl=
ear=3D"none"></div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div>
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8004750789"><div>
                    On Thursday, September 28, 2023 at 02:28:28 AM EDT, Ton=
y Drews via Fot &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt; wrote:
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    <p>Grey will show cracks better than black.&nbsp; POR is the first thin=
g
      that came to mind for me, but it's been YEARS since I used it.</p>
    <p>Cheers, Tony<br clear=3D"none">
    </p>
    <div id=3D"yiv2627968742ydpc738254eyiv2026604046yqtfd35055" class=3D"yi=
v2627968742ydpc738254eyiv2026604046yqt9936172975"><div class=3D"yiv26279687=
42ydpc738254eyiv2026604046moz-cite-prefix">On 9/27/2023 10:21 PM, DAVE HOGY=
E via
      Fot wrote:<br clear=3D"none">
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    <blockquote type=3D"cite">
      </blockquote></div></div><div id=3D"yiv2627968742ydpc738254eyiv202660=
4046yqtfd57320" class=3D"yiv2627968742ydpc738254eyiv2026604046yqt9936172975=
"></div><div><div id=3D"yiv2627968742ydpc738254eyiv2026604046yqtfd17211" cl=
ass=3D"yiv2627968742ydpc738254eyiv2026604046yqt9936172975"><div style=3D"fo=
nt-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif;color:#333333;"> <spa=
n style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">I'd suggest
          POR 15.&nbsp; Depending on the color, the number changes.&nbsp; I=
 think
          15 is black.&nbsp; Gray is something else, maybe 10.&nbsp; Spray =
or
          brush on.&nbsp; I've used Rustoleum as the touchup rattle spray
          cans are perfectly matched to the quart cans, and you can get
          it just about anywhere.&nbsp; POR products might be a little more
          durable than Rustoleum.&nbsp; If the frame is bare metal, an epox=
y
          primer is a good start, but with POR I "think" you can skip
          the primer.&nbsp;&nbsp;</span> </div>
      <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif=
;color:#333333;" class=3D"yiv2627968742ydpc738254eyiv2026604046default-styl=
e"> <span style=3D"font-family:helvetica;font-size:12pt;">Dave H.&nbsp;&nbs=
p;</span>
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      <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif=
;color:#333333;" class=3D"yiv2627968742ydpc738254eyiv2026604046default-styl=
e"> &nbsp; </div>
      <div style=3D"font-size:12pt;font-family:helvetica, arial, sans-serif=
;color:#333333;" class=3D"yiv2627968742ydpc738254eyiv2026604046default-styl=
e"> <span style=3D"font-size:12pt;">On 09/27/2023 5:55 PM PDT McKearn
          McKearn via Fot <a rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer" shape=3D"=
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-link-rfc2396E">&lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;</a> wrote:</span> </div>
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        <div> &nbsp; </div>
        <div> &nbsp; </div>
        <div dir=3D"ltr"> Hi All. <br clear=3D"none">
          <div> &nbsp; It's been a long time since I've painted a frame and
            I'm just wondering what the latest / greatest thing to use
            is for a race car frame ? It's already&nbsp;sand blasted if tha=
t
            matters.. </div>
          <div> &nbsp; &nbsp;Thanks.&nbsp; P.J. </div>
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