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Let's do an experiment,=C2=A0 if some one out there has good engine measure=
ments including flow numbers, I can load them into the software and post sc=
reen shots of the findings along with explanations of the numbers. I will e=
ven email that lucky person the intake and exhaust s96 files for free so th=
ey can get that cam ground.
Sent from AT&T Yahoo Mail on Android=20
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On Sun, Jan 22, 2023 at 5:46 AM, David Gott<triumphsix@yahoo.com> wrote: =
Hi FOT,
I used Larry Young=E2=80=99s site to learn a lot about cams and their relat=
ive effects on engine performance with some crude engine modeling software,=
in the quest to pick the right cam for my wants, building a strong mid ran=
ge engine, trying not to spin over 6,000 if I can help it with a stock base=
d crank. =C2=A0 =C2=A0Does anyone happen to have the specs on the Gillander=
=E2=80=99s #24 they could share? =C2=A0Just curious. =C2=A0Maybe it=E2=80=
=99s at the pointy end of the list below?
Rick McCurdy, here=E2=80=99s the cam reference list Larry put together, bel=
ow, and I=E2=80=99d sure be curious what Rick Parent=E2=80=99s software wou=
ld say I should have done!!! =C2=A0
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On Saturday, January 21, 2023, 2:11 PM, Rick Parent via Fot <fot@autox.team=
.net> wrote:
Hi Henry
(DISCLAIMER) I am not an expert on this subject but what I do know I am gla=
d to share.
I know this subject can be controversial just because there are so many opp=
osing opinions. Let me start by saying I have no interest in fighting over =
whose opinion is right or wrong mainly because an opinion is not science or=
fact based quantifiable data. I am however more than willing to have a fru=
itful conversation that helps every one increase their knowledge base on th=
is subject.
Camshafts along with many (too many, haha) other high performance or racing=
items have been my passion for over 45 years and I have spent countless do=
llars and hours investigating this so called black art called cam design. I=
have asked some of the best cam designers in the world about what I need i=
n any particular motor and reached a point where some started saying " I do=
n't know the answer to that question", others blew me off by saying that wo=
n't work with no explanation why. When I was right around 40 years old I to=
ok on the attitude screw it, I'm going to do it anyhow. I can truthfully sa=
y most things I tried in fact did not work but some things actually did.=C2=
=A0
Moving forward there are 2 quotes I am reminded of that I think are applica=
ble here, the first is; " It's easier to convince someone of a lie that con=
vince them they have been lied to" and the second is "Everything in the uni=
verse can be explained with math".
In a general sense Ed Iskendarion, Harvey Crane, Dema Elgin and many others=
were way ahead of their time and did their best to apply some math for smo=
othing purposes and trial and error to build cams that would make power and=
not beat the valve train to death. Over the years cam companies have amass=
ed thousands of lobe profiles and that combined with a ton of dyno run data=
from engine builders is how they make their recommendations for todays cus=
tomers so the question is can they get you close? I think so depending on w=
hat engine you are working with, Chevy's and Fords, you have a really good =
chance. Other off brand or non mainstream engines are basically what someon=
e has developed on their own through trial and error like Kas. As a side no=
te, many NASCAR engine shops have 55 gallon barrels full of trial and error=
camshafts headed to the scrap yard.
The worlds best cam designer to date in my opinion would be a guy you never=
heard of named Dick Jones. Dick had developed the math by proving it over =
decades of testing and has 4 Indy wins to his credit among many other wins =
in racing. Dicks son Rick Jones has take the math a step further by refinin=
g it and building a software program that will make you look like a hero ri=
ght out of the box.
Today, there is a way to have the perfect camshaft for your specific combin=
ation of parts. The perfect cam may or may not make more max hp than what y=
ou have currently depending on how good your combination of parts are. My m=
otors have made a couple more hp on the top but tons more on the bottom and=
mid range which is why I have been accused of cheating, the cars really ac=
celerate of the corners which is how you win races.
SUPPLY AND DEMAND=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0
In simple terms, a combination of engine parts is the demand side and the c=
amshaft acts as the supply side. X engine specs demand X supply to make X H=
P at X RPM's, the cam design software looks at these parameters and mathema=
tically generates a profile providing the supply the your combination of pa=
rts demand. The specifics are a little hard to get your head around and tha=
t's why I offered to help with cam designs.
Most race engine camshafts are too large in my experience, that's why the T=
Q range is so tight or small (peaky). Enzo once said, HP sells cars and TQ =
wins races. Example - ideally we want a really wide TQ band say 4500-8000 f=
or example. If the engine makes peak HP at say 7500rpm and still is making =
power at 8000 your combo of parts are good. If the motor makes peak HP at 7=
500 and drops off a cliff at 7600 your parts are not capable of getting to =
8000, its not the camshafts fault generally speaking.
You can get the software here and its stupid cheap at the moment.=C2=A0http=
s://induction-logic.com/=C2=A0
I thinks that's enough to get the ball rolling don't you, haha.
Questions / comments??
Rick Parent
"Doing the right thing is always the right thing, regardless of consequence=
s"
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On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 05:10:09 AM MST, yellow04 via Fot <fot=
@autox.team.net> wrote: =20
=20
Rick,
Needing to beat the guys at the pointy end of the pack is what racing is=20
all about, right?
If your engine has the billet bottom end you describe, you can safely=20
run pretty much any cam you desire. Plenty of options out there, from=20
mild to wild. You are going to get a bunch of opinions out of this=20
thread!
First data point for you, the majority of the front running 4 cylinder=20
TR's in the east run the old Gillanders #24. It's a beast, makes power=20
up to and beyond 7 grand. You let the revs drop below 4 grand and it is=20
game over for that lap! I can tell you multiple Kastner Cup winners had=20
that cam in their car when they took home the Cup.
Henry
Rick McCurdy wrote:
>=20
> On another subject (and because I haven=E2=80=99t figured out how to do a
> =E2=80=98dry=E2=80=99 post), my motor got a bit =E2=80=98fried=E2=80=99 a=
t the K Cup in
> Pittsburgh last summer. In short, I=E2=80=99m seeking advice on a good, h=
igh
> quality camshaft for a TR4 motor. Billet crank, Carillo rods, forged
> pistons, etc.
>=20
> Any suggestions? I=E2=80=99m not an engineer, just a musician, and I don=
=E2=80=99t
> need to beat Henry Frye! (Well, not right away=E2=80=A6=F0=9F=98=81)
>=20
> Thanks,
_______________________________________________
fot@autox.team.net
http://www.fot-racing.com
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tt.net
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ments including flow numbers, I can load them into the software and post sc=
reen shots of the findings along with explanations of the numbers. I will e=
ven email that lucky person the intake and exhaust s96 files for free so th=
ey can get that cam ground.<br><br><div id=3D"ymail_android_signature"><a i=
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with some crude engine modeling software, in the quest to pick the right c=
am for my wants, building a strong mid range engine, trying not to spin ove=
r 6,000 if I can help it with a stock based crank. Does anyone=
happen to have the specs on the Gillander=E2=80=99s #24 they could share? =
Just curious. Maybe it=E2=80=99s at the pointy end of the list =
below?</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Rick McCurdy, here=E2=80=99s=
the cam reference list Larry put together, below, and I=E2=80=99d sure be =
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</div><div><br clear=3D"none"></div><br clear=3D"none"></div><div>Dave Gott=
</div><div><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D"none"><a shap=
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ng-top:15px;margin-top:0;" class=3D"yiv1348286172yahoo-quoted-begin">On Sat=
urday, January 21, 2023, 2:11 PM, Rick Parent via Fot <fot@autox.team.ne=
t> wrote:</p><blockquote class=3D"yiv1348286172iosymail"><div id=3D"yiv1=
348286172"><div><div style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial,=
sans-serif;font-size:16px;" class=3D"yiv1348286172ydpf02007b1yahoo-style-w=
rap"><div style=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, =
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">Hi Henry</div><div dir=3D"ltr=
" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-si=
ze:16px;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:He=
lvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">(DISCLAIMER) I =
am not an expert on this subject but what I do know I am glad to share.</di=
v><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, s=
ans-serif;font-size:16px;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px=
;">I know this subject can be controversial just because there are so many =
opposing opinions. Let me start by saying I have no interest in fighting ov=
er whose opinion is right or wrong mainly because an opinion is not science=
or fact based quantifiable data. I am however more than willing to have a =
fruitful conversation that helps every one increase their knowledge base on=
this subject.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, H=
elvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-ser=
if;font-size:16px;">Camshafts along with many (too many, haha) other high p=
erformance or racing items have been my passion for over 45 years and I hav=
e spent countless dollars and hours investigating this so called black art =
called cam design. I have asked some of the best cam designers in the world=
about what I need in any particular motor and reached a point where some s=
tarted saying " I don't know the answer to that question", others blew me o=
ff by saying that won't work with no explanation why. When I was right arou=
nd 40 years old I took on the attitude screw it, I'm going to do it anyhow.=
I can truthfully say most things I tried in fact did not work but some thi=
ngs actually did. </div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetic=
a Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><br clear=3D"none"></=
div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial,=
sans-serif;font-size:16px;">Moving forward there are 2 quotes I am reminde=
d of that I think are applicable here, the first is; " It's easier to convi=
nce someone of a lie that convince them they have been lied to" and the sec=
ond is "Everything in the universe can be explained with math".</div><div d=
ir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-seri=
f;font-size:16px;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-=
family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">In a g=
eneral sense Ed Iskendarion, Harvey Crane, Dema Elgin and many others were =
way ahead of their time and did their best to apply some math for smoothing=
purposes and trial and error to build cams that would make power and not b=
eat the valve train to death. Over the years cam companies have amassed tho=
usands of lobe profiles and that combined with a ton of dyno run data from =
engine builders is how they make their recommendations for todays customers=
so the question is can they get you close? I think so depending on what en=
gine you are working with, Chevy's and Fords, you have a really good chance=
. Other off brand or non mainstream engines are basically what someone has =
developed on their own through trial and error like Kas. As a side note, ma=
ny NASCAR engine shops have 55 gallon barrels full of trial and error camsh=
afts headed to the scrap yard.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:H=
elvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><br clear=3D"n=
one"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"">The worlds best cam designer to date=
in my opinion would be a guy you never heard of named Dick Jones. Dick had=
developed the math by proving it over decades of testing and has 4 Indy wi=
ns to his credit among many other wins in racing. Dicks son Rick Jones has =
take the math a step further by refining it and building a software program=
that will make you look like a hero right out of the box.</div><div dir=3D=
"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;fon=
t-size:16px;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-famil=
y:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">Today, ther=
e is a way to have the perfect camshaft for your specific combination of pa=
rts. The perfect cam may or may not make more max hp than what you have cur=
rently depending on how good your combination of parts are. My motors have =
made a couple more hp on the top but tons more on the bottom and mid range =
which is why I have been accused of cheating, the cars really accelerate of=
the corners which is how you win races.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"fon=
t-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><br =
clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, =
Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">SUPPLY AND DEMAND =
</div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Hel=
vetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div di=
r=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif=
;font-size:16px;">In simple terms, a combination of engine parts is the dem=
and side and the camshaft acts as the supply side. X engine specs demand X =
supply to make X HP at X RPM's, the cam design software looks at these para=
meters and mathematically generates a profile providing the supply the your=
combination of parts demand. The specifics are a little hard to get your h=
ead around and that's why I offered to help with cam designs.</div><div dir=
=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;=
font-size:16px;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-fa=
mily:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">Most rac=
e engine camshafts are too large in my experience, that's why the TQ range =
is so tight or small (peaky). Enzo once said, HP sells cars and TQ wins rac=
es. Example - ideally we want a really wide TQ band say 4500-8000 for examp=
le. If the engine makes peak HP at say 7500rpm and still is making power at=
8000 your combo of parts are good. If the motor makes peak HP at 7500 and =
drops off a cliff at 7600 your parts are not capable of getting to 8000, it=
s not the camshafts fault generally speaking.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=
=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px=
;"><br clear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica=
Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">You can get the softwa=
re here and its stupid cheap at the moment. <a shape=3D"rect" href=3D"=
https://induction-logic.com/"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"noreferrer noopener"=
>https://induction-logic.com/</a> </div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font=
-family:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><br c=
lear=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, H=
elvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;">I thinks that's enough to get =
the ball rolling don't you, haha.</div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-famil=
y:Helvetica Neue, Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;font-size:16px;"><br clear=
=3D"none"></div><div dir=3D"ltr" style=3D"font-family:Helvetica Neue, Helve=
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On Saturday, January 21, 2023 at 05:10:09 AM MST, yello=
w04 via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> wrote:
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</div><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div id=3D"yiv1348286172yqtfd75=
986" class=3D"yiv1348286172yqt8399007650">Rick,<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=
=3D"none">Needing to beat the guys at the pointy end of the pack is what ra=
cing is <br clear=3D"none">all about, right?<br clear=3D"none"><br clear=3D=
"none">If your engine has the billet bottom end you describe, you can safel=
y <br clear=3D"none">run pretty much any cam you desire. Plenty of options =
out there, from <br clear=3D"none">mild to wild. You are going to get a bun=
ch of opinions out of this <br clear=3D"none">thread!<br clear=3D"none"><br=
clear=3D"none">First data point for you, the majority of the front running=
4 cylinder <br clear=3D"none">TR's in the east run the old Gillanders #24.=
It's a beast, makes power <br clear=3D"none">up to and beyond 7 grand. You=
let the revs drop below 4 grand and it is <br clear=3D"none">game over for=
that lap! I can tell you multiple Kastner Cup winners had <br clear=3D"non=
e">that cam in their car when they took home the Cup.<br clear=3D"none"><br=
clear=3D"none">Henry<br clear=3D"none"></div><div id=3D"yiv1348286172yqtfd=
04517" class=3D"yiv1348286172yqt9057081774"><div id=3D"yiv1348286172yqtfd78=
005" class=3D"yiv1348286172yqt8399007650"><br clear=3D"none">Rick McCurdy w=
rote:<br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> On another subject (an=
d because I haven=E2=80=99t figured out how to do a<br clear=3D"none">> =
=E2=80=98dry=E2=80=99 post), my motor got a bit =E2=80=98fried=E2=80=99 at =
the K Cup in<br clear=3D"none">> Pittsburgh last summer. In short, I=E2=
=80=99m seeking advice on a good, high<br clear=3D"none">> quality camsh=
aft for a TR4 motor. Billet crank, Carillo rods, forged<br clear=3D"none">&=
gt; pistons, etc.<br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> Any sugges=
tions? I=E2=80=99m not an engineer, just a musician, and I don=E2=80=99t<br=
clear=3D"none">> need to beat Henry Frye! (Well, not right away=E2=80=
=A6=F0=9F=98=81)<br clear=3D"none">> <br clear=3D"none">> Thanks,<br =
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