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Joe,
Can't say I'm lucky when I scuffed pistons but mine are okay. I had a
radiator bottom hose pop off and saw the steam, but by the time I realized
I should shut it down I had the damage to just the skirts. Three were
scuffed a very minor amount so I saved the set . They've been sitting in a
box for years and only now, with this product would I consider using them.
Bob Kramer
On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 11:50 AM Joe <jaboruch@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Bob, I don=E2=80=99t know anything about the coating, but if the pistons =
were used
> enough to scuff, how are the ring grooves? I have good looking used
> pistons, but the ring groove are worn and out of spec. Joe B
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Oct 6, 2021, at 12:20 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
> wrote:
>
> =EF=BB=BF
> I left out an important question. We typically add extra clearance on
> #4. With a proper coating the need may go away, but if the coating wears
> to fit.
>
> I also wonder how it works with liners. Even with using boring plates, I
> suspect that the custom machined liners clamp down just a little bit
> differently when we bolt on a head and the perfect bore we were after may
> change. Nothing will change for the rings but the piston to bore clearanc=
e
> may be perfect.
>
> Bob Kramer
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 10:26 AM Bob Kramer <rkramer56@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a TR4? I have a
>> set of scuffed Wieseco pistons that could be rescued with a skirt coatin=
g
>> and the company says it will work.
>>
>> The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes provide an
>> interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operation, t=
he
>> coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Controlled
>> abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in
>> components as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved,
>> stresses on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops.
>> Durable, low friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain
>> tighter operating clearances and higher efficiency for the life of the
>> device.
>>
>>
>> https://www.line2linecoatings.com/
>>
>> Armor Clearance Control=E2=84=A2 (Armor CC=E2=84=A2)
>> For building diametric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt
>> coating.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Extreme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt
>> dimensions. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened =
up
>> from skirt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.
>>
>> Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Slick
>> CC=E2=84=A2 for the ultimate fit and lubricity.
>>
>> *Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.*
>> ADVANTAGES:
>>
>> - *Restores and Holds Clearances*
>>
>>
>> Bob Kramer
>>
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Joe,<div><br></div><div>Can't say I'm lucky when I=
scuffed pistons but mine are okay.=C2=A0 I had a radiator bottom=C2=A0hose=
pop off and saw the steam, but by the time I realized I should shut it dow=
n I had the damage to=C2=A0just the skirts. Three were scuffed a very minor=
amount so I saved the set . They've been sitting in a box for years an=
d only now, with this product would I consider using them.</div><div><br cl=
ear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_signature" data-smartmail=
=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></div></div><br></div=
></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr"=
>On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 11:50 AM Joe <<a href=3D"mailto:jaboruch@yahoo.c=
om">jaboruch@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2=
04);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"auto">Bob, I don=E2=80=99t know anything =
about the coating, but if the pistons were used enough to scuff, how are th=
e ring grooves?=C2=A0 I have good looking used pistons, =C2=A0but the ring =
groove are worn and out of spec.=C2=A0 Joe B<br><br><div dir=3D"ltr">Sent f=
rom my iPhone</div><div dir=3D"ltr"><br><blockquote type=3D"cite">On Oct 6,=
2021, at 12:20 PM, Bob Kramer via Fot <<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team=
.net" target=3D"_blank">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:<br><br></blockquo=
te></div><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div dir=3D"ltr">=EF=BB=BF<div dir=3D"lt=
r">I left out an important question.=C2=A0 We typically add extra clearance=
on #4.=C2=A0 With a proper coating the need may go away, but if the coatin=
g wears to fit.<div><br></div><div>I also wonder how it works=C2=A0with lin=
ers.=C2=A0 Even with using boring plates, I suspect that the custom machine=
d liners clamp down just a little bit differently=C2=A0when we bolt on a he=
ad and the perfect bore we were after may change. Nothing will change for t=
he rings but the piston to bore clearance may be perfect.=C2=A0<br><div><br=
clear=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></div=
></div><br></div></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr=
" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Wed, Oct 6, 2021 at 10:26 AM Bob Kramer <<a hr=
ef=3D"mailto:rkramer56@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank">rkramer56@gmail.com</a>=
> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px =
0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div=
dir=3D"ltr"><div>Has anyone used this company on a wet liner engine like a=
TR4? I have a set of scuffed Wieseco=C2=A0pistons that could be rescued wi=
th a skirt coating and the company says it will work.=C2=A0</div><div><span=
style=3D"background-color:rgb(250,250,250);color:rgb(85,85,85);font-family=
:Helvetica,Arial;font-size:14px"><br></span></div><div><span style=3D"backg=
round-color:rgb(250,250,250);color:rgb(85,85,85);font-family:Helvetica,Aria=
l;font-size:14px">The coatings can be applied very thick and sometimes prov=
ide an interference fit when a device is assembled. During initial operatio=
n, the coating breaks in to form a perfect fit between mating parts. Contro=
lled abrasion even accounts for thermal and torque related distortions in c=
omponents as the coating wears in. Once the optimum fit is achieved, stress=
es on the coating are reduced and the break-in process stops. Durable, low =
friction, anti-scuff properties of the coating maintain tighter operating c=
learances and higher efficiency for the life of the device.</span></div><di=
v><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href=3D"https://www.line2linecoatings.co=
m/" target=3D"_blank">https://www.line2linecoatings.com/</a><br></div><div>=
<br></div><div><h2 style=3D"margin:10px 0px;font-family:"Droid Sans&qu=
ot;;line-height:40px;color:rgb(64,64,64);font-size:22px">Armor Clearance Co=
ntrol=E2=84=A2 (Armor CC=E2=84=A2)</h2><div style=3D"min-height:20px;paddin=
g:19px;margin-bottom:20px;background:rgb(255,255,242);border:1px solid rgb(=
255,255,255);border-radius:0px;margin-top:20px;outline:rgb(204,204,204) sol=
id 1px"><center><h3 style=3D"margin:10px 0px;font-family:"Droid Sans&q=
uot;;line-height:40px;color:rgb(64,64,64);font-size:18px">For building diam=
etric thickness 0.002" to 0.020" - our hardest skirt coating.</h3=
></center>=C2=A0<p style=3D"margin:0px 0px 10px;color:rgb(85,85,85);font-fa=
mily:Helvetica;font-size:12px;line-height:24px"></p><center><input alt=3D"a=
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p style=3D"margin:0px 0px 10px;color:rgb(85,85,85);font-family:Helvetica;fo=
nt-size:12px;line-height:24px"></p>=C2=A0<p style=3D"margin:0px 0px 10px;co=
lor:rgb(85,85,85);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;line-height:24px">Ex=
treme wear resistance provides lasting enlargement of piston skirt dimensio=
ns. Recommended for restoring clearances where they have opened up from ski=
rt collapse, wear, clean-up honing or other.</p><p style=3D"margin:0px 0px =
10px;color:rgb(85,85,85);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;line-height:2=
4px">Race proven durability in NHRA PRO-MOD. Coating can be topped with Sli=
ck CC=E2=84=A2 for the ultimate fit and lubricity.</p><p style=3D"margin:0p=
x 0px 10px;color:rgb(85,85,85);font-family:Helvetica;font-size:12px;line-he=
ight:24px"><em>Recommended for 2 strokes and 4 strokes.</em></p><h2 style=
=3D"margin:10px 0px;font-family:"Droid Sans";line-height:40px;col=
or:rgb(64,64,64);font-size:22px">ADVANTAGES:</h2><ul style=3D"padding:0px;m=
argin:0px;color:rgb(85,85,85);list-style:none;font-family:Helvetica;font-si=
ze:12px;line-height:24px"><li style=3D"line-height:20px;margin:6px 0px"><st=
rong>Restores and Holds Clearances</strong></li></ul></div></div><br clear=
=3D"all"><div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">Bob Kramer</div></div></div=
></div>
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