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My advice would be to purchase belts that meet or exceed the racing =
organization's rules and then install them to follow exactly the =
specifications of the manufacturer.
I bet that one anchor point for 2 sub belts is not per manufacturer spec =
to offer the protection of a 5-point harness only.
Greg in Oakland, CA
> On Dec 9, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Gary Schneider via Fot =
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> Tony,
> Gretchen's Mini for 20 years has always had two crotch straps run thru =
the one seat hole, both secured to one central eyebolt in the floor. No =
one's ever questioned it (altho I'll grant you an MC tech is not the =
most persnickety I've ever seen.)
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> I notice MC, SCCA, VSCDA, VARA, VRG, RMVR rules all specify 5 or =
6-point harnesses. SCCA only includes 7-point. Most recommend above 5 =
points but none require it.=20
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> Interestingly, I find no reference in any of the above rules to =
6-point harnesses requiring two individual anti-sub attachment points. =
SCCA specifically allows attaching anti-sub straps to the same two =
attachment points as the lap belts but does not require it. Only lap and =
shoulder belts require individual attachment points. (12-2020 GCR p. 76) =
You might verify with any other organizations you run with.
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> Cheers,
> Gary Schneider
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> On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 1:56:57 PM CST, Tony Drews via Fot =
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> The talk of helmets and suppliers reminded me to ask this question... =20=
> My FIA seat belt 5 years is up, so I need to replace them. I have a 5=20=
> point harness. Everything I'm seeing FIA or SFI is now a 6 point=20
> harness with two crotch straps. Of course I have ONE hole in my seat=20=
> and one eye bolt for the crotch strap currently.
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> How are folks doing the revised crotch strap situation?
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> Thanks, Tony Drews
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class=3D""><div><div><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">My =
advice would be to purchase belts that meet or exceed the racing =
organization's rules and then install them to follow exactly the =
specifications of the manufacturer.</span></div><div><span =
style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">I=
bet that one anchor point for 2 sub belts is not per manufacturer spec =
to offer the protection of a 5-point harness =
only.</span></div><div><span style=3D"font-size: 14px;" class=3D"">Greg =
in Oakland, CA</span></div></div><div><br class=3D""></div><div><br =
class=3D""></div><div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Dec 9, 2020, at 12:41 PM, Gary Schneider via Fot <<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>> =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
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<div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">Tony,</div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">Gretchen's Mini for 20 =
years has always had two crotch straps run thru the one seat hole, both =
secured to one central eyebolt in the floor. No one's ever questioned it =
(altho I'll grant you an MC tech is not the most persnickety I've ever =
seen.)</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">I =
notice MC, SCCA, VSCDA, VARA, VRG, RMVR rules all specify 5 <u =
class=3D"">or</u> 6-point harnesses. SCCA only includes 7-point. Most =
recommend above 5 points but none require it. <br class=3D""></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" class=3D"">Interestingly, I find no =
reference in any of the above rules to 6-point harnesses requiring two =
individual anti-sub attachment points. SCCA specifically allows =
attaching anti-sub straps to the same two attachment points as the lap =
belts but does not require it. Only lap and shoulder belts require =
individual attachment points. (12-2020 GCR p. 76) You might verify with =
any other organizations you run with.<br class=3D""><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" =
class=3D"">Cheers,</div><div dir=3D"ltr" data-setdir=3D"false" =
class=3D"">Gary Schneider<br class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div>
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On Wednesday, December 9, 2020, 1:56:57 PM CST, Tony =
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class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>> wrote:
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<div class=3D""><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">The talk of =
helmets and suppliers reminded me to ask this question... <br =
class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">My FIA seat belt 5 years is =
up, so I need to replace them. I have a 5 <br class=3D""></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">point harness. Everything I'm seeing FIA or =
SFI is now a 6 point <br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">harness with two crotch straps. Of course I have ONE =
hole in my seat <br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"">and one =
eye bolt for the crotch strap currently.<br class=3D""></div><div =
dir=3D"ltr" class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div dir=3D"ltr" =
class=3D"">How are folks doing the revised crotch strap situation?<br =
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