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Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2

To: Michael Deweerd <michaelndeweerd@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2
From: Keith Files via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 2020 17:14:27 +0300
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So, my dyno might be optimistic but it is 206bhp at 6511 rpm...=20

The engine is 87mm as per FIA regulations,

It is a very strong engine built by TR Enterprises here in the UK using =
all the best bits from Kas=E2=80=99s knowledge...

Kind regards,

Keith

> On 20 Aug 2020, at 16:54, Michael Deweerd via Fot <fot@autox.team.net> =
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> Chris. I want what you have for breakfast!!  175-190hp ?? I=E2=80=99ve =
not had my new engine on a dyno but I don=E2=80=99t think I=E2=80=99ll =
have that number Of ponies.=20
> We should talk because there are some =E2=80=9Ckiller B=E2=80=99s=E2=80=9D=
 here in Canada that need squashing lol=20
> Mike=20
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> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:26 AM Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =
> Yep, MGs are lighter and I think they have a tiny advantage on tight =
corners.
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> But Triumphs do better from my experience.
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> My TR4 with 88mm bore is doing quite well and is on most cases faster =
than a MG.
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> Cheers
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> Chris
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> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:11
> An: MadMarx <tr4racing@googlemail.com =
> Betreff: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2
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> I see the same thing here with good Mg's quicker than the TR-4 cars.  =
EXCEPT we have a couple TR-4's that are better prepared with the engine =
(bigger) and they are much better than the M.G.'s.  I also think  the =
MG's are  a lot lighter in weight for all seem very quick out of a =
corner. I also think that the MG engine is a lot better design to start =
with than thee TR-4 engine.  Way back in years I built MG engines and =
they were excellent in using high revs and very reliable.
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> Never be beaten by equipment.
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> On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 6:04 AM Chris Marx via Fot <fot@autox.team.net =
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> Very well driven.
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> Wondering why these MGs and Porsches are that quick?
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> Normally Triumphs eat MGs and Porsches for Breakfast ;-)
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> =20
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> What power do they make?
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> Here in Europe MGs are in the 160Hp range, while TR 4s are about =
175-190 Hp range.
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> Cheers
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> Chris
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> On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:54 PM Tony Drews via Fot =
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> Another Grattan video.  Fantastic battle with Scott Fohrman in an MGB=20=

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> and Michael Moore in his beautiful red TR-4.  13 minutes of full-on =
racing.
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> https://youtu.be/m3kUFUW_t9c <https://youtu.be/m3kUFUW_t9c>
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<html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"Content-Type" content=3D"text/html; =
charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"word-wrap: break-word; =
-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">So, =
my dyno might be optimistic but it is 206bhp at 6511 rpm...&nbsp;<div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">The engine is 87mm as =
per FIA regulations,</div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div =
class=3D"">It is a very strong engine built by TR Enterprises here in =
the UK using all the best bits from Kas=E2=80=99s knowledge...</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Kind regards,</div><div =
class=3D""><br class=3D""></div><div class=3D"">Keith</div><div =
class=3D""><div><br class=3D""><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On 20 Aug 2020, at 16:54, Michael Deweerd via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">Chris. I want what you have for =
breakfast!! &nbsp;175-190hp ?? I=E2=80=99ve not had my new engine on a =
dyno but I don=E2=80=99t think I=E2=80=99ll have that number Of =
ponies.&nbsp;</div></div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D"">We should talk =
because there are some =E2=80=9Ckiller B=E2=80=99s=E2=80=9D here in =
Canada that need squashing lol&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"auto" =
class=3D"">Mike&nbsp;</div><div dir=3D"auto" class=3D""><br =
class=3D""></div><div class=3D""><br class=3D""><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Aug =
20, 2020 at 9:26 AM Chris Marx via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br class=3D""></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px =
0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex;borde=
r-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)"><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" =
vlink=3D"purple" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"m_-6273161709026903794WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yep, =
MGs are lighter and I think they have a tiny advantage on tight =
corners.<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">But=
 Triumphs do better from my experience.<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My TR4 with 88mm bore is doing =
quite well and is on most cases faster than a MG.<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u =
class=3D""></u></p><div style=3D"border-style:solid none =
none;border-top-width:1pt;padding:3pt 0cm =
0cm;border-top-color:rgb(225,225,225)" class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal"><b class=3D""><span lang=3D"DE" =
class=3D"">Von:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE" class=3D""> Kas Kastner =
&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">kaskastner@gmail.com</a>&gt; <br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:11<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">An:</b> MadMarx &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">tr4racing@googlemail.com</a>&gt;<br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></span></p></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u =
class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></p><div class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">I see the same thing here with&nbsp;good Mg's =
quicker than&nbsp;the TR-4 cars.&nbsp; EXCEPT&nbsp;we have a couple =
TR-4's that are better prepared&nbsp;with the engine&nbsp;(bigger) and =
they are much better than the M.G.'s.&nbsp; I also think &nbsp;the MG's =
are&nbsp; a lot lighter&nbsp;in weight&nbsp;for all seem very quick out =
of a corner. I also think that the MG engine is a lot better design to =
start with than thee TR-4 engine.&nbsp; Way back in years I built MG =
engines&nbsp;and they were excellent in using high revs and very =
reliable.<br clear=3D"all" class=3D""><u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p><div class=3D""><div class=3D""><p class=3D""><strong =
class=3D""><span =
style=3D"font-family:Calibri,sans-serif;color:rgb(0,0,153)" =
class=3D"">Never be beaten by equipment.</span></strong><u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><u=
 class=3D""></u>&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u></p></div><p =
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class=3D""></div></div></div><div lang=3D"EN-US" link=3D"blue" =
vlink=3D"purple" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"m_-6273161709026903794WordSection1"><div class=3D""><div =
class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 6:04 AM Chris =
Marx via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" =
class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p></div></div></div></div><div lang=3D"EN-US" =
link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" class=3D""><div =
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link=3D"blue" vlink=3D"purple" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"m_-6273161709026903794WordSection1"><div class=3D""><blockquote =
style=3D"border-style:none none none =
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class=3D"MsoNormal">Very well driven.<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u><u =
class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Wondering why these MGs and =
Porsches are that quick?<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Normally Triumphs eat MGs and Porsches for Breakfast =
;-)<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<u=
 class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">What power =
do they make?<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Here in Europe MGs are in the 160Hp range, while TR =
4s are about 175-190 Hp range.<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;<u class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p><div =
class=3D""><div class=3D""><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 =
at 11:54 PM Tony Drews via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; =
target=3D"_blank" class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:<u =
class=3D""></u><u class=3D""></u></p></div><blockquote =
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4.8pt;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204)" class=3D""><p =
class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">Another Grattan =
video.&nbsp; Fantastic battle with Scott Fohrman in an MGB <br =
class=3D""><br class=3D"">and Michael Moore in his beautiful red =
TR-4.&nbsp; 13 minutes of full-on racing.<br class=3D""><br class=3D""><br=
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