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Subject: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2
From: "van.mulders.marcel--- via Fot" <fot@autox.team.net>
Date: Fri, 21 Aug 2020 09:24:13 +0200 (CEST)
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[ https://youtu.be/GP23e6fUosQ | https://youtu.be/GP23e6fUosQ ]=20
Some of you may have seen this video of my car at the Hockenheimring some w=
eeks ago : it was eating MG's with ease and also all the other cars except =
for a lightweight jaguar E-type and a very fast TVR/driver with TR6 engine.=
 So 2' 6" was good for 3rd position on the grid, only half a second slower =
than the TVR. The secret? IT WAS NOT ME AT THE WHEEL!! Karl Chandeck was dr=
iving for me : not a prof racer but very fast anyway. Sadly the engine brok=
e : holed engine block and big fire. I was always faster than the MG's but =
now being 68yrs old, I got slower and slower in the last couple of years wi=
thout noticing it. I thought it was my car and I worked on it, but I remain=
ed in the midfield instead of at the front where I used to be. My car getti=
ng faster and me getting slower : the result has been a steady state. With =
68yrs one hasn't to be slow, but for me it has turned out like that. But I =
hope it is not a definite fate and Karl is learning me to be faster again. =
We'll see if I'll succeed, if not, Karl will take over the driving complete=
ly. Next race is at Zandvoort on septembre the 12th. Watch this space!=20
Marcel=20


Van: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>=20
Aan: "Michael Deweerd" <michaelndeweerd@gmail.com>, "tr4racing" <tr4racing@=
googlemail.com>=20
Cc: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>=20
Verzonden: Donderdag 20 augustus 2020 19:20:57=20
Onderwerp: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2=20



Forgot to mention, my engine has 178 hp, but the torque is the secret=E2=80=
=A6.225Nm.=20




Von: tr4racing@gmail.com <tr4racing@gmail.com>=20
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 19:18=20
An: 'Michael Deweerd' <michaelndeweerd@gmail.com>; 'tr4racing@googlemail.co=
m' <tr4racing@googlemail.com>=20
Cc: 'Kas Kastner' <kaskastner@gmail.com>; 'fot@autox. team. net' <fot@autox=
.team.net>=20
Betreff: AW: [Fot] Grattan race 2=20




Mike,=20



my engine is really nothing special.=20

Standard crank, standard valves, good ported head, good camshaft, Ford Rods=
 (I remember Tony has organized them for me), Phoenix exhaust head, 48 Webe=
rs, that=E2=80=99s all.=20

My car is handling great. With good brake pads the standard brakes do very =
fine. Cast iron drums at the rear, Swaybars at front and rear.=20

There you have it. From last to win (okay=E2=80=A6.I was sat back to 4 th b=
ecause I accidently overtook under yellow)=20

[ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuaiCLm0yvV4 | https://www.youtube.com/w=
atch?v=3DuaiCLm0yvV4 ]=20



Cheers=20

Chris=20






Von: Michael Deweerd < [ mailto:michaelndeweerd@gmail.com | michaelndeweerd=
@gmail.com ] >=20
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:54=20
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Cc: Kas Kastner < [ mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com | kaskastner@gmail.com ] >;=
 fot@autox. team. net < [ mailto:fot@autox.team.net | fot@autox.team.net ] =
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Chris. I want what you have for breakfast!! 175-190hp ?? I=E2=80=99ve not h=
ad my new engine on a dyno but I don=E2=80=99t think I=E2=80=99ll have that=
 number Of ponies.=20


We should talk because there are some =E2=80=9Ckiller B=E2=80=99s=E2=80=9D =
here in Canada that need squashing lol=20


Mike=20








On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 9:26 AM Chris Marx via Fot < [ mailto:fot@autox.tea=
m.net | fot@autox.team.net ] > wrote:=20





Yep, MGs are lighter and I think they have a tiny advantage on tight corner=
s.=20

But Triumphs do better from my experience.=20

My TR4 with 88mm bore is doing quite well and is on most cases faster than =
a MG.=20



Cheers=20

Chris=20






Von: Kas Kastner < [ mailto:kaskastner@gmail.com | kaskastner@gmail.com ] >=
=20
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 15:11=20
An: MadMarx < [ mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com | tr4racing@googlemail.com =
] >=20
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2=20





I see the same thing here with good Mg's quicker than the TR-4 cars. EXCEPT=
 we have a couple TR-4's that are better prepared with the engine (bigger) =
and they are much better than the M.G.'s. I also think the MG's are a lot l=
ighter in weight for all seem very quick out of a corner. I also think that=
 the MG engine is a lot better design to start with than thee TR-4 engine. =
Way back in years I built MG engines and they were excellent in using high =
revs and very reliable.=20


Never be beaten by equipment.=20








On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 6:04 AM Chris Marx via Fot < [ mailto:fot@autox.tea=
m.net | fot@autox.team.net ] > wrote:=20

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Very well driven.=20



Wondering why these MGs and Porsches are that quick?=20

Normally Triumphs eat MGs and Porsches for Breakfast ;-)=20



What power do they make?=20

Here in Europe MGs are in the 160Hp range, while TR 4s are about 175-190 Hp=
 range.=20



Cheers=20

Chris=20




On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:54 PM Tony Drews via Fot < [ mailto:fot@autox.te=
am.net | fot@autox.team.net ] > wrote:=20

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Another Grattan video. Fantastic battle with Scott Fohrman in an MGB=20

and Michael Moore in his beautiful red TR-4. 13 minutes of full-on racing.=
=20



[ https://youtu.be/m3kUFUW_t9c | https://youtu.be/m3kUFUW_t9c ]=20



Cheers, Tony Drews=20



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/*]]>*/</style></div><div><a href=3D"https://youtu.be/GP23e6fUosQ";>https://=
youtu.be/GP23e6fUosQ</a><br></div><div>Some of you may have seen this video=
 of my car at the Hockenheimring some weeks ago : it was eating MG's with e=
ase and also all the other cars except for a lightweight jaguar E-type and =
a very fast TVR/driver with TR6 engine. So 2' 6" was good for 3rd position =
on the grid, only half a second slower than the TVR. The secret? IT WAS NOT=
 ME AT THE WHEEL!! Karl Chandeck was driving for me : not a prof racer but =
very fast anyway. Sadly the engine broke : holed engine block and big fire.=
 I was always faster than the MG's but now being 68yrs old, I got slower an=
d slower in the last couple of years without noticing it. I thought it was =
my car and I worked on it, but I remained in the midfield instead of at the=
 front&nbsp; where I used to be. My car getting faster and me getting slowe=
r : the result has been a steady state. With 68yrs one hasn't to be slow, b=
ut for me it has turned out like that. But I hope it is not a definite fate=
 and Karl is learning me to be faster again. We'll see if I'll succeed, if =
not, Karl will take over the driving completely. Next race is at Zandvoort =
on septembre the 12th. Watch this space!</div><div>Marcel</div><div><br></d=
iv><hr id=3D"zwchr" data-marker=3D"__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker=3D"__HEADE=
RS__"><b>Van: </b>"fot" &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Aan: </b>"Michael =
Deweerd" &lt;michaelndeweerd@gmail.com&gt;, "tr4racing" &lt;tr4racing@googl=
email.com&gt;<br><b>Cc: </b>"fot" &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;<br><b>Verzonde=
n: </b>Donderdag 20 augustus 2020 19:20:57<br><b>Onderwerp: </b>Re: [Fot] G=
rattan race 2<br></div><div><br></div><div data-marker=3D"__QUOTED_TEXT__">=
<div class=3D"WordSection1"><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Forgot to mention, my en=
gine has 178 hp, but the torque is the secret=E2=80=A6.225Nm.</p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e=
1e1e1 1pt;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"=
DE">Von:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE"> tr4racing@gmail.com &lt;tr4racing@gma=
il.com&gt; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 19:18<br><b>An:=
</b> 'Michael Deweerd' &lt;michaelndeweerd@gmail.com&gt;; 'tr4racing@google=
mail.com' &lt;tr4racing@googlemail.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> 'Kas Kastner' &lt;=
kaskastner@gmail.com&gt;; 'fot@autox. team. net' &lt;fot@autox.team.net&gt;=
<br><b>Betreff:</b> AW: [Fot] Grattan race 2</span></p></div></div><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DE">Mike,</sp=
an></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"DE">&nbsp;</span></p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">my engine is really nothing special.</p><p class=3D"MsoNorma=
l">Standard crank, standard valves, good ported head, good camshaft, Ford R=
ods (I remember Tony has organized them for me), Phoenix exhaust head, 48 W=
ebers, that=E2=80=99s all.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">My car is handling gre=
at. With good brake pads the standard brakes do very fine. Cast iron drums =
at the rear, Swaybars at front and rear.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">There yo=
u have it. From last to win (okay=E2=80=A6.I was sat back to 4<sup>th</sup>=
 because I accidently overtook under yellow)</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><a h=
ref=3D"https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuaiCLm0yvV4"; target=3D"_blank" rel=
=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DuaiCLm0=
yvV4</a></p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers<=
/p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e1e=
1 1pt;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"DE">=
Von:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE"> Michael Deweerd &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:mic=
haelndeweerd@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferr=
er">michaelndeweerd@gmail.com</a>&gt; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 20. =
August 2020 15:54<br><b>An:</b> <a href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">tr4racing@googlemai=
l.com</a><br><b>Cc:</b> Kas Kastner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kaskastner@gmail.=
com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">kaskastner@gmai=
l.com</a>&gt;; fot@autox. team. net &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.ne=
t" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">fot@autox.team.ne=
t</a>&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2</span></p></div><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris. I want =
what you have for breakfast!! &nbsp;175-190hp ?? I=E2=80=99ve not had my ne=
w engine on a dyno but I don=E2=80=99t think I=E2=80=99ll have that number =
Of ponies.&nbsp;</p></div></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">We should talk =
because there are some =E2=80=9Ckiller B=E2=80=99s=E2=80=9D here in Canada =
that need squashing lol&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Mike&nbs=
p;</p></div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">On Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at=
 9:26 AM Chris Marx via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; targe=
t=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt=
; wrote:</p></div><blockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #ccccc=
c 1pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5pt;margin-right=
:0cm;margin-bottom:5pt"><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Yep, MGs are light=
er and I think they have a tiny advantage on tight corners.</p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">But Triumphs do better from my experience.</p><p class=3D"MsoNor=
mal">My TR4 with 88mm bore is doing quite well and is on most cases faster =
than a MG.</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheer=
s</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Chris</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p cl=
ass=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div style=3D"border:none;border-top:solid #e1e=
1e1 1pt;padding:3pt 0cm 0cm 0cm"><p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span lang=3D"DE=
">Von:</span></b><span lang=3D"DE"> Kas Kastner &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:kaska=
stner@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">kas=
kastner@gmail.com</a>&gt; <br><b>Gesendet:</b> Donnerstag, 20. August 2020 =
15:11<br><b>An:</b> MadMarx &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:tr4racing@googlemail.com"=
 target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">tr4racing@googlemai=
l.com</a>&gt;<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Grattan race 2</span></p></div><=
p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">I see the same =
thing here with&nbsp;good Mg's quicker than&nbsp;the TR-4 cars.&nbsp; EXCEP=
T&nbsp;we have a couple TR-4's that are better prepared&nbsp;with the engin=
e&nbsp;(bigger) and they are much better than the M.G.'s.&nbsp; I also thin=
k &nbsp;the MG's are&nbsp; a lot lighter&nbsp;in weight&nbsp;for all seem v=
ery quick out of a corner. I also think that the MG engine is a lot better =
design to start with than thee TR-4 engine.&nbsp; Way back in years I built=
 MG engines&nbsp;and they were excellent in using high revs and very reliab=
le.<br clear=3D"all"></p><div><div><p><strong><span style=3D"font-family:'c=
alibri' , sans-serif;color:#000099">Never be beaten by equipment.</span></s=
trong></p></div></div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p></div><p class=3D"Ms=
oNormal">&nbsp;</p></div></div><div><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">O=
n Thu, Aug 20, 2020 at 6:04 AM Chris Marx via Fot &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:fot=
@autox.team.net" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopener noreferrer">fot=
@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div></div></div></div><div><div><div><b=
lockquote style=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1pt;padding:0cm 0c=
m 0cm 6pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5=
pt"><div><div><div><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Very well driven.</p><p class=3D"=
MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Wondering why these MGs and Por=
sches are that quick?</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Normally Triumphs eat MGs a=
nd Porsches for Breakfast ;-)</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=
=3D"MsoNormal">What power do they make?</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Here in E=
urope MGs are in the 160Hp range, while TR 4s are about 175-190 Hp range.</=
p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">Cheers</p><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">Chris</p><p class=3D"MsoNormal">&nbsp;</p><div><div><p clas=
s=3D"MsoNormal">On Wed, Aug 19, 2020 at 11:54 PM Tony Drews via Fot &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noopen=
er noreferrer">fot@autox.team.net</a>&gt; wrote:</p></div><blockquote style=
=3D"border:none;border-left:solid #cccccc 1pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6pt;margi=
n-left:4.8pt;margin-top:5pt;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:5pt"><p class=3D=
"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12pt">Another Grattan video.&nbsp; Fanta=
stic battle with Scott Fohrman in an MGB <br><br>and Michael Moore in his b=
eautiful red TR-4.&nbsp; 13 minutes of full-on racing.<br><br><br><br><a hr=
ef=3D"https://youtu.be/m3kUFUW_t9c"; target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nofollow noope=
ner noreferrer">https://youtu.be/m3kUFUW_t9c</a><br><br><br><br>Cheers, Ton=
y Drews<br><br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br><=
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ght:0cm;margin-bottom:5pt"><p class=3D"MsoNormal" style=3D"margin-bottom:12=
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rgin-bottom:12pt">_______________________________________________<br><br><a=
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p://www.fot-racing.com</a><br><br><br><br>Donate: <a href=3D"http://www.tea=
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ormal"><i><span style=3D"font-family:'comic sans ms'">Mike Deweerd</span></=
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