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I live in the Columbia Gorge, one of the windiest inland places on =
earth. People who don=E2=80=99t live here come and set up their EZ Ups =
with stakes, buckets of concrete, dirt screws, whatever. If the wind =
comes up to what we call =E2=80=9Cnuking=E2=80=9D the canopy will wind =
up somewhere in Idaho. The power of the wind increases as the square of =
velocity. You could get a Cirque de Soleil style circus tent and a crew =
of twenty to stake it down, or just take your EZ down. EZ-up--EZ down. =
If I=E2=80=99m using it as a car cover I lower it and tie it to the roll =
bar. So far, Peyote hasn=E2=80=99t blown to any nearby states. Nothing i =
know will prevent the canopy from dumping a bucket of ice cold water =
down your back when you=E2=80=99re trying to push the water belly out =
with a broom.=20
> On Jul 2, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Jim Gray <toodamnfunky@comcast.net> wrote:
>=20
> In many years of motorcross, supercross and car racing I think I=E2=80=99=
ve gone through about ten of them. Even if you can weight or tie them =
down enough
> the lift from the fabric just tears them apart. I pretty much gave up =
since I bought an enclosed trailer. Now I have the EMT conduit type with =
fabricated corners
> that attaches to the trailer like Jason Ostrowski=E2=80=99s. It=E2=80=99=
s pretty impressive how much wind it can take.
> We get some pretty wicked wind at times along the front range of the =
rockies.
> Jim g
> =20
> From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Tony Drews
> Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:34 PM
> To: Bill Dentinger <billdentin@aol.com>
> Cc: fot@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question
> =20
> I used to have a cheapie 10 x 20 from Farm and Fleet that was the =
poles / canopy arrangement. Was a pain to set up but it handled all =
weather like a champ. I use strong stakes in the ground, don't rely on =
weights because I live in the land of thunderstorms.
> Went to EZ-up brand for ease of setup, but found that it likes to =
catch the wind more than my prior setup. It doesn't pull the stakes out =
of the ground but the wind load is a problem for the frame attachment =
points (this is not the most expensive EZ-up, but not a cheapie), one of =
them broke and I've taken it down in driving rain concerned about it =
trying to make itself into something airborn. Also water pools in the =
canopy. But it's great for shading from the sun. The whole point is to =
NOT have to go out in the driving rain because of my rain protection. =
:)
> What I'm hoping for is the durability of what you described but the =
ease of setup (one person) of the EZ-up. The EurMax is looking =
promising - it seems like it would help if it had air vents in the dome =
to release some of the wind load though. Looks to be on sale for a =
reasonable price at the moment. Still pricey, but probably worth it in =
the long run.
> - Tony
> On 7/2/2020 3:12 PM, Bill Dentinger wrote:
>> I always thought the EZ-up Canopy was convenient, looked nice, but =
was wimpy. Even a flatuance issue could cause a problem.=20
>> =20
>> We preferred the traditional set up using HD electrical conduit for =
poles. We had three sets, serving 2, 4, and 6 cars. We used HD stakes =
(custom made from rebar, with HD washers welded to the side). Serious =
stuff.
>> =20
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>>=20
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>>> See Paul Ricco
>>>=20
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>>> > On Jul 2, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com =
>>> >=20
>>> > =EF=BB=BFHas anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can =
actually handle wind and rain?
>>> >=20
>>> > Thanks, Tony Drews
>>> >=20
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-webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;" class=3D"">I =
live in the Columbia Gorge, one of the windiest inland places on earth. =
People who don=E2=80=99t live here come and set up their EZ Ups with =
stakes, buckets of concrete, dirt screws, whatever. If the wind comes up =
to what we call =E2=80=9Cnuking=E2=80=9D the canopy will wind up =
somewhere in Idaho. The power of the wind increases as the square of =
velocity. You could get a Cirque de Soleil style circus tent and a =
crew of twenty to stake it down, or just take your EZ down. EZ-up--EZ =
down. If I=E2=80=99m using it as a car cover I lower it and tie it to =
the roll bar. So far, Peyote hasn=E2=80=99t blown to any nearby states. =
Nothing i know will prevent the canopy from dumping a bucket of ice cold =
water down your back when you=E2=80=99re trying to push the water belly =
out with a broom. <div><blockquote type=3D"cite" class=3D""><div =
class=3D"">On Jul 2, 2020, at 1:47 PM, Jim Gray <<a =
href=3D"mailto:toodamnfunky@comcast.net"; =
class=3D"">toodamnfunky@comcast.net</a>> wrote:</div><br =
class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=3D""><div =
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text-decoration: none;"><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">In many =
years of motorcross, supercross and car racing I think I=E2=80=99ve gone =
through about ten of them. Even if you can weight or tie them down =
enough<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">the lift from the fabric just tears them apart. I pretty much =
gave up since I bought an enclosed trailer. Now I have the EMT conduit =
type with fabricated corners<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div =
style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">that attaches to the trailer like Jason =
Ostrowski=E2=80=99s. It=E2=80=99s pretty impressive how much wind it can =
take.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; =
font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D"">We get =
some pretty wicked wind at times along the front range of the =
rockies.<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">Jim g<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></div><div class=3D""><div =
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font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" class=3D""><b class=3D"">From:</b><span=
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Fot <<a =
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; =
class=3D"">fot-bounces@autox.team.net</a>><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><b class=3D"">On Behalf =
Of<span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Tony Drews<br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Sent:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:34 =
PM<br class=3D""><b class=3D"">To:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Bill Dentinger <<a =
href=3D"mailto:billdentin@aol.com"; =
class=3D"">billdentin@aol.com</a>><br class=3D""><b =
class=3D"">Cc:</b><span class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><a =
href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; class=3D"">fot@autox.team.net</a><br =
class=3D""><b class=3D"">Subject:</b><span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [Fot] Canopy =
question<o:p class=3D""></o:p></div></div></div><div style=3D"margin: =
0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D""><o:p class=3D""> </o:p></div><div class=3D"">I used to =
have a cheapie 10 x 20 from Farm and Fleet that was the poles / canopy =
arrangement. Was a pain to set up but it handled all weather like =
a champ. I use strong stakes in the ground, don't rely on weights =
because I live in the land of thunderstorms.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D"">Went to EZ-up brand for ease of =
setup, but found that it likes to catch the wind more than my prior =
setup. It doesn't pull the stakes out of the ground but the wind =
load is a problem for the frame attachment points (this is not the most =
expensive EZ-up, but not a cheapie), one of them broke and I've taken it =
down in driving rain concerned about it trying to make itself into =
something airborn. Also water pools in the canopy. But it's =
great for shading from the sun. The whole point is to NOT have to =
go out in the driving rain because of my rain protection. :)<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D"">What I'm hoping for is the =
durability of what you described but the ease of setup (one person) of =
the EZ-up. The EurMax is looking promising - it seems like it =
would help if it had air vents in the dome to release some of the wind =
load though. Looks to be on sale for a reasonable price at the =
moment. Still pricey, but probably worth it in the long run.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D"">- Tony<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">On 7/2/2020 3:12 PM, Bill Dentinger wrote:<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div></div><blockquote style=3D"margin-top: 5pt; =
margin-bottom: 5pt;" class=3D"" type=3D"cite"><div style=3D"margin: 0in =
0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif;" =
class=3D"">I always thought the EZ-up Canopy was =
convenient, looked nice, but was wimpy. Even a flatuance =
issue could cause a problem.<span =
class=3D"Apple-converted-space"> </span><o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
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style=3D"margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 11pt; font-family: =
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using HD electrical conduit for poles. We had three sets, serving =
2, 4, and 6 cars. We used HD stakes (custom made from rebar, with =
HD washers welded to the side). Serious stuff.<o:p =
class=3D""></o:p></div><div class=3D""><div style=3D"margin: 0in 0in =
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