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To: "'Tony Drews'" <tony@tonydrews.com>, "'Bill Dentinger'" <billdentin@aol.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question
From: "Jim Gray" <toodamnfunky@comcast.net>
Date: Thu, 2 Jul 2020 14:47:26 -0600
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In many years of motorcross, supercross and car racing I think =
I=E2=80=99ve gone through about ten of them. Even if you can weight or =
tie them down enough

the lift from the fabric just tears them apart. I pretty much gave up =
since I bought an enclosed trailer. Now I have the EMT conduit type with =
fabricated corners

that attaches to the trailer like Jason Ostrowski=E2=80=99s. =
It=E2=80=99s pretty impressive how much wind it can take.

We get some pretty wicked wind at times along the front range of the =
rockies.

Jim g

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From: Fot <fot-bounces@autox.team.net> On Behalf Of Tony Drews
Sent: Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:34 PM
To: Bill Dentinger <billdentin@aol.com>
Cc: fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Canopy question

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I used to have a cheapie 10 x 20 from Farm and Fleet that was the poles =
/ canopy arrangement.  Was a pain to set up but it handled all weather =
like a champ.  I use strong stakes in the ground, don't rely on weights =
because I live in the land of thunderstorms.

Went to EZ-up brand for ease of setup, but found that it likes to catch =
the wind more than my prior setup.  It doesn't pull the stakes out of =
the ground but the wind load is a problem for the frame attachment =
points (this is not the most expensive EZ-up, but not a cheapie), one of =
them broke and I've taken it down in driving rain concerned about it =
trying to make itself into something airborn.  Also water pools in the =
canopy.  But it's great for shading from the sun.  The whole point is to =
NOT have to go out in the driving rain because of my rain protection.  =
:)

What I'm hoping for is the durability of what you described but the ease =
of setup (one person) of the EZ-up.  The EurMax is looking promising - =
it seems like it would help if it had air vents in the dome to release =
some of the wind load though.  Looks to be on sale for a reasonable =
price at the moment.  Still pricey, but probably worth it in the long =
run.

- Tony

On 7/2/2020 3:12 PM, Bill Dentinger wrote:

I always thought the EZ-up Canopy was convenient, looked nice, but was =
wimpy.  Even a flatuance issue could cause a problem.=20

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We preferred the traditional set up using HD electrical conduit for =
poles.  We had three sets, serving 2, 4, and 6 cars.  We used HD stakes =
(custom made from rebar, with HD washers welded to the side).  Serious =
stuff.

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Bill Dentinger

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<awashatko@wi.rr.com> wrote:=20

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See Paul Ricco

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 2, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Tony Drews <tony@tonydrews.com =
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> =EF=BB=BFHas anyone run across a EZ-up style canopy that can actually =
handle wind and rain?
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> Thanks, Tony Drews
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vlink=3Dpurple><div class=3DWordSection1><p class=3DMsoNormal>In many =
years of motorcross, supercross and car racing I think I=E2=80=99ve gone =
through about ten of them. Even if you can weight or tie them down =
enough<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>the lift from the fabric just =
tears them apart. I pretty much gave up since I bought an enclosed =
trailer. Now I have the EMT conduit type with fabricated =
corners<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>that attaches to the trailer =
like Jason Ostrowski=E2=80=99s. It=E2=80=99s pretty impressive how much =
wind it can take.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>We get some pretty =
wicked wind at times along the front range of the =
rockies.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal>Jim g<o:p></o:p></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in =
0in 0in'><p class=3DMsoNormal><b>From:</b> Fot =
&lt;fot-bounces@autox.team.net&gt; <b>On Behalf Of </b>Tony =
Drews<br><b>Sent:</b> Thursday, July 2, 2020 2:34 PM<br><b>To:</b> Bill =
Dentinger &lt;billdentin@aol.com&gt;<br><b>Cc:</b> =
fot@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Canopy =
question<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p>I used to have a cheapie 10 x =
20 from Farm and Fleet that was the poles / canopy arrangement.&nbsp; =
Was a pain to set up but it handled all weather like a champ.&nbsp; I =
use strong stakes in the ground, don't rely on weights because I live in =
the land of thunderstorms.<o:p></o:p></p><p>Went to EZ-up brand for ease =
of setup, but found that it likes to catch the wind more than my prior =
setup.&nbsp; It doesn't pull the stakes out of the ground but the wind =
load is a problem for the frame attachment points (this is not the most =
expensive EZ-up, but not a cheapie), one of them broke and I've taken it =
down in driving rain concerned about it trying to make itself into =
something airborn.&nbsp; Also water pools in the canopy.&nbsp; But it's =
great for shading from the sun.&nbsp; The whole point is to NOT have to =
go out in the driving rain because of my rain protection.&nbsp; =
:)<o:p></o:p></p><p>What I'm hoping for is the durability of what you =
described but the ease of setup (one person) of the EZ-up.&nbsp; The =
EurMax is looking promising - it seems like it would help if it had air =
vents in the dome to release some of the wind load though.&nbsp; Looks =
to be on sale for a reasonable price at the moment.&nbsp; Still pricey, =
but probably worth it in the long run.<o:p></o:p></p><p>- =
Tony<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal>On 7/2/2020 3:12 PM, Bill =
Dentinger wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=3DMsoNormal>I =
always thought the&nbsp;EZ-up Canopy was convenient,&nbsp;looked nice, =
but was wimpy. &nbsp;Even a flatuance issue could cause a problem. =
<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>We preferred the traditional set up using HD =
electrical conduit for poles. &nbsp;We had three sets, serving 2, 4, and =
6 cars. &nbsp;We used HD stakes (custom made from rebar, with HD washers =
welded to the side). &nbsp;Serious stuff.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p></div><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Bill Dentinger<o:p></o:p></p><div =
id=3D"__aol_mail_signature__"><div><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:8.5pt;font-family:"HelveticaNeue-Light",serif;color:#9=
49494'>Sent from AOL Mobile Mail<br>Get the new AOL app: <a =
href=3D"http://mail.mobile.aol.com"; =
target=3D"_blank">mail.mobile.aol.com</a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></di=
v><p class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>On&nbsp;Thursday, July 2, 2020,&nbsp;Allen =
Washatko&nbsp;<a =
href=3D"mailto:awashatko@wi.rr.com";>&lt;awashatko@wi.rr.com&gt;</a>&nbsp;=
wrote: <o:p></o:p></p></div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><blockquote =
style=3D'margin-left:6.75pt;margin-right:0in'><div><p =
class=3DMsoNormal>See Paul Ricco<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<br><br>&gt; =
On Jul 2, 2020, at 12:30 PM, Tony Drews &lt;<a =
href=3D"mailto:tony@tonydrews.com";>tony@tonydrews.com</a>&gt; =
wrote:<br>&gt; <br>&gt; =EF=BB=BFHas anyone run across a EZ-up style =
canopy that can actually handle wind and rain?<br>&gt; <br>&gt; Thanks, =
Tony Drews<br>&gt; <br>&gt; =
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