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Ah the manual fuel pump!Some years back a buddy was trying to figure out h=
ow to get both of his race cars to a dirt-track event @ Zephyrhills Fla, no=
t far from Sebring.He had a big Indy car w/a GMC 6, and a midget w/V-8 60, =
real cars, not modern repros.Both with the handle on the left.We fixed that=
problem real easy, I hauled one over in exchange for seat time in both.The=
big car was a handful but the Midget was almost way too much fun!Glen Efin=
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From: Bill Dentinger via Fot <fot@autox.team.net>
To: fot@autox.team.net
Sent: Sun, May 24, 2020 6:40 pm
Subject: Re: [Fot] Old Cars
Is that a manual fuel pump mounted outside (driver's left)?
Bill Dentinger
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On=C2=A0Sunday, May 24, 2020,=C2=A0Larry Young via Fot=C2=A0<fot@autox.tea=
m.net>=C2=A0wrote:
My dad was a Ford guy. He tried to brainwash me on Fords too, but I=20
rebelled and got a TR250 rather than a Mustang (good move right?).=20
Anyway, he had a 1926 Model T which he got when I was about 8 years old=20
and I inherited it when he stopped driving. I naturally gravitated to=20
the performance end of the Model T hobby. Most people our age think=20
sports cars and hotrodding started after WWII, but the same thing=20
happened when the doughboys came back fror WWI. They wanted cars like=20
they had seen in Europe. The Model T was the natural platform, since=20
they were so abundant. I call my other one my "Poor Man's Bugatti" (see=20
photo). It was built in 1922 on a junked 1914 roadster chassis. It was=20
fitted with a mail order boattail body. It has several performance=20
upgrades which were available in the period, e.g. full pressure oiling,=20
RAJO overhead valve conversion, 2 speed rear axle (also a J-type=20
overdrive not available in '22). I plan to build another speedster. I've=20
got another speedster body and a Model T motor with a SOC head. There=20
were a lot of speed parts available for those cars.
I wouldn't put to much weight on what the manual says for lubrication.=20
Most lubricants today are better than anything available then. I run=20
straight 30w or 10w-30 in the '26 which is still running with splash=20
oiling. You want the oil to be fairly thin to get into the bearings. The=20
Model T manual calls for 600w oil in the rearend, but there is some=20
debate about how oils were designated back then (before SAE standards).=20
I use the same Sta-lube GL4 90w that I use in my Triumph. Penrite makes=20
a heavy steering box lube that I use in one car. I don't know how it=20
compares to cornhead grease. I am surprised about how slow GM was to=20
adopt more modern technology. Ford went to tapered roller wheel bearings=20
around 1920 and pressure oiling about 1932. They got away from babbitted=20
bearing in 1936 and started using oil filters about the same time.=20
However, it was a bypass system, not full flow oil filtration. It is all=20
eventually filtered (after it flow around enough times).
=C2=A0- Larry Young
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<div> <font size=3D"2">Ah the manual fuel pump!</font></div>
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<div><font size=3D"2">He had a big Indy car w/a GMC 6, and a midget w/V-8 6=
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<div><font size=3D"2">Both with the handle on the left.</font></div>
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exchange for seat time in both.</font></div>
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<div>Is that a manual fuel pump mounted outside (driver's left)?
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built in 1922 on a junked 1914 roadster chassis. It was <br clear=3D"none">=
fitted with a mail order boattail body. It has several performance <br clea=
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oiling, <br clear=3D"none">RAJO overhead valve conversion, 2 speed rear axl=
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to build another speedster. I've <br clear=3D"none">got another speedster =
body and a Model T motor with a SOC head. There <br clear=3D"none">were a l=
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none">I wouldn't put to much weight on what the manual says for lubrication=
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