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Mile High charges 175.00 for nitriding, polishing & straightening but I've =
found out you HAVE to check your clearances when it comes back.=20
jim g=20
----- Original Message -----
From: "Duncan Charlton" <duncan.charlton54@gmail.com>=20
To: "Brian Schirano" <bschirano@yahoo.com>=20
Cc: "fot" <fot@autox.team.net>=20
Sent: Monday, December 14, 2015 12:20:32 PM=20
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods=20
The nitriding cost (via Dennis Murray of Performance Engine Service in Aust=
in, TX) turned out to be $400 (plus $72 shipping), much less than I expecte=
d. =C2=A0Dennis said that was his cost, so perhaps going direct to Mile Hig=
h Crankshafts in Denver might cost a bit more. =C2=A0Compared to the cost o=
f a forged crank that seems like a helluva deal for the Ford 1500 pre-cross=
flow race motor I=E2=80=99m building for the Morgan.=20
Duncan=20
On Dec 11, 2015, at 8:27 PM, Brian Schirano < bschirano@yahoo.com > wrote:=
=20
My crank was nitrided at a local steel treating shop here in Rochester NY t=
hen back to machine shop for (re)polishing, (re)tolerancing, balancing=20
=C2=A0=20
26A GT6+, 28 TR6=20
Brian Schirano=20
585-305-0349 Cell=C2=A0=20
BSchirano@yahoo.com=20
From: Duncan Charlton < duncan.charlton54@gmail.com >=20
To: Greg Blake < gblake58tr3@icloud.com >=20
Cc: Fot < fot@autox.team.net >=20
Sent: Friday, December 11, 2015 9:06 PM=20
Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods=20
Dennis sent my Ford 1500 crank to a guy in Colorado for nitriding.=C2=A0 He=
said it would be about $800, including final straightening and grinding to=
spec (Monday I=E2=80=99ll pick it up and find out what the final cost is).=
=20
Duncan=20
> On Dec 11, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Greg Blake < gblake58tr3@icloud.com > wrote:=
=20
>=20
> Sounds like a deal considering what we pay Dennis these days which does n=
ot include the nitriding process.=20
>=20
> Can you specify bearing clearances and radius treatment?=20
>=20
> Sent from my iPhone=20
>=20
>> On Dec 9, 2015, at 9:46 AM, rkramer3@austin.rr.com wrote:=20
>>=20
>> Does anyone have experience with APT nitrided cranks? They list a fully =
race prepped and nitrided 6 cylinder crank at just under a grand.=20
>> Bob Kramer=20
>> rkramer3@austin.rr.com=20
>>=20
>> ---- Brian Schirano < bschirano@yahoo.com > wrote:=20
>>> 2 Cents from a modest built GT6 racer (IE 10:1 CR, stock rods, crank, G=
ood GP3 cam, etc).=C2=A0 Russ's comments are dead on - building the car is =
one expense, racing it is a recurring one and his estimate of $1000 per eve=
nt is good. So build in margin of safety in the motor (and other components=
) where you can.=20
>>> aluminum flywheel and clutch & PP I went to Ted Shumaker, TSI - TS Impo=
rts=20
>>> RE the rods - at the time of my first (only) rebuild a couple years ago=
I couldn't afford carrillos or Pauters, but did spend some long green on n=
itriding and polishing the crank, balancing everything, and of course the A=
RP hardware everywhere that counts . My car is NOT a high rev machine, I se=
lf limit at 6200 - 6300 RPM and it seems all the straights are uphill so sh=
e never redlines there anywise!=20
>>> So to me, it can be done, but has to be consistent with the rest of you=
r build. my next build will be a higher CR and hotter cam, so will be upgra=
ding rods, and pistons as well. But the first build was built conservative =
for longevity.=20
>>> Brian 26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schirano=20
>>> 585-305-0349 Cell=20
>>> BSchirano@yahoo.com=20
>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 From: Spitfire Racing < spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com >=20
>>> To: 'Jamie' < tr6driver@yahoo.com >; 'McKearn McKearn' < mckearn2@gmail=
.com >=20
>>> Cc: 'FOT list' < fot@autox.team.net >=20
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 8:02 AM=20
>>> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods=20
>>>=20
>>> A properly built and modified race engine represents a mighty investmen=
t not=20
>>> only of dollars but of time. Is that really where you want to pinch pen=
nies?=20
>>> After all, with the exception of pistons and crank that is one of the=
=20
>>> primary components and all it takes is one piece inside an engine to re=
duce=20
>>> all your work and investment to nothing more than scrap metal. One seiz=
ed=20
>>> valve, or substandard bolt even can be a disaster. It doesn't take much=
.=20
>>> Realize all the ancillary invested expenditures that are also at risk l=
ike a=20
>>> weekend's entry fee you lose in an engine failure; the cost of time off=
from=20
>>> work to go to a race weekend; the cost of food and lodging for the race=
=20
>>> outing and the cost of just getting there. When asked, I usually advise=
=20
>>> folks to figure a race weekend is ~$1000 minimum when you roll all in.=
=20
>>>=20
>>> A number of racers have run Pauter rods as stated before by Bill and th=
ese=20
>>> do present a less expensive alternative. I had the opportunity to rebui=
ld an=20
>>> engine last year with Pauter rods and they were quite substantial and w=
ere=20
>>> well designed, constructed and balanced. Personally I have seen far too=
many=20
>>> Chinese knock-offs; reproductions (call them what you will), that fail =
to=20
>>> come close to the parts they try to mimic.=20
>>> I suggest you perhaps delay your build until your war chest allows for =
top=20
>>> quality internals. Do it once and do it right the first time and reduce=
the=20
>>> potential for disappointing expensive disaster.=20
>>>=20
>>> Russ Moore=20
>>> Spitfire #49=20
>>>=20
>>> -----Original Message-----=20
>>> From: Fot [mailto: fot-bounces@autox.team.net ] On Behalf Of Jamie=20
>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 6:22 AM=20
>>> To: McKearn McKearn=20
>>> Cc: FOT list=20
>>> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods=20
>>>=20
>>> Although I was initially very wary, they have worked well for over 1,00=
0=20
>>> race miles in our (horror) MGB engine.=20
>>>=20
>>> Jamie Palmer=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 11:52 PM, McKearn McKearn < mckearn2@gmail.com > wr=
ote:=20
>>>>=20
>>>> Hi Gents.=20
>>>>=C2=A0 =C2=A0 I am looking for feedback on the MaxSpeeding connecting r=
ods for GT6.=20
>>> Can't afford Carrillos and I'm hoping these are good. Also am still=20
>>> searching for an aluminum flywheel without having something custom made=
. and=20
>>> would like input on what type of clutch to use as well . Lets call it a=
race=20
>>> car for the sake of argument....=20
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<html><body><div style=3D"font-family: Arial; font-size: 12pt; color: #0000=
00"><DIV>Mile High charges 175.00 for nitriding, polishing & straighten=
ing but I've found out you HAVE to check your clearances when it comes back=
.<BR></DIV>
<DIV>jim g</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
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a,Arial,sans-serif; FONT-WEIGHT: normal; COLOR: #000; FONT-STYLE: normal"><=
B>From: </B>"Duncan Charlton" <duncan.charlton54@gmail.com><BR><B>To:=
</B>"Brian Schirano" <bschirano@yahoo.com><BR><B>Cc: </B>"fot" <f=
ot@autox.team.net><BR><B>Sent: </B>Monday, December 14, 2015 12:20:32 PM=
<BR><B>Subject: </B>Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods<BR>
<DIV><BR></DIV>The nitriding cost (via Dennis Murray of Performance Engine =
Service in Austin, TX) turned out to be $400 (plus $72 shipping), much less=
than I expected. Dennis said that was his cost, so perhaps going dir=
ect to Mile High Crankshafts in Denver might cost a bit more. Compare=
d to the cost of a forged crank that seems like a helluva deal for the Ford=
1500 pre-crossflow race motor I=E2=80=99m building for the Morgan.
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV>Duncan</DIV>
<DIV><BR></DIV>
<DIV><BR>
<DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE>
<DIV>On Dec 11, 2015, at 8:27 PM, Brian Schirano <<A href=3D"mailto:bsch=
irano@yahoo.com" target=3D_blank>bschirano@yahoo.com</A>> wrote:</DIV><B=
R class=3DApple-interchange-newline>
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<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1449860634594_59901><SPAN id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_14498606=
34594_59965>My crank was nitrided at a local steel treating shop here in Ro=
chester NY then back to machine shop for (re)polishing, (re)tolerancing, ba=
lancing</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1449860634594_59902> </DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1449860634594_59967 class=3Dsignature>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1449860634594_59966>26A GT6+, 28 TR6</DIV>Brian Schi=
rano<BR>585-305-0349 Cell <BR><A href=3D"mailto:BSchirano@yahoo.com"; t=
arget=3D_blank>BSchirano@yahoo.com</A></DIV><BR>
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<B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">From:</SPAN></B> Duncan Charlton <<=
A href=3D"mailto:duncan.charlton54@gmail.com"; target=3D_blank>duncan.charlt=
on54@gmail.com</A>><BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">To:</SPAN></=
B> Greg Blake <<A href=3D"mailto:gblake58tr3@icloud.com"; target=3D_blank=
>gblake58tr3@icloud.com</A>> <BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Cc=
:</SPAN></B> Fot <<A href=3D"mailto:fot@autox.team.net"; target=3D_blank>=
fot@autox.team.net</A>><BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT: bold">Sent:</S=
PAN></B> Friday, December 11, 2015 9:06 PM<BR><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-WEIGHT=
: bold">Subject:</SPAN></B> Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods<BR></SPAN></DIV>
<DIV id=3Dyui_3_16_0_1_1449860634594_60032 class=3Dy_msg_container><BR>Denn=
is sent my Ford 1500 crank to a guy in Colorado for nitriding. He sai=
d it would be about $800, including final straightening and grinding to spe=
c (Monday I=E2=80=99ll pick it up and find out what the final cost is).<BR =
clear=3Dnone><BR clear=3Dnone>Duncan<BR clear=3Dnone><BR clear=3Dnone><BR c=
lear=3Dnone>> On Dec 11, 2015, at 3:36 PM, Greg Blake <<A href=3D"mai=
lto:gblake58tr3@icloud.com" shape=3Drect target=3D_blank>gblake58tr3@icloud=
.com</A>> wrote:<BR clear=3Dnone>> <BR clear=3Dnone>> Sounds like =
a deal considering what we pay Dennis these days which does not include the=
nitriding process. <BR clear=3Dnone>> <BR clear=3Dnone>> Can you spe=
cify bearing clearances and radius treatment?<BR clear=3Dnone>> <BR clea=
r=3Dnone>> Sent from my iPhone<BR clear=3Dnone>> <BR clear=3Dnone>>=
;> On Dec 9, 2015, at 9:46 AM, <A href=3D"mailto:rkramer3@austin.rr.com"=
shape=3Drect target=3D_blank>rkramer3@austin.rr.com</A> wrote:<BR clear=3D=
none>>> <BR clear=3Dnone>>> Does anyone have experience with AP=
T nitrided cranks? They list a fully race prepped and nitrided 6 cylinder c=
rank at just under a grand.<BR clear=3Dnone>>> Bob Kramer<BR clear=3D=
none>>> <A href=3D"mailto:rkramer3@austin.rr.com"; shape=3Drect target=
=3D_blank>rkramer3@austin.rr.com</A><BR clear=3Dnone>>> <BR clear=3Dn=
one>>> ---- Brian Schirano <<A href=3D"mailto:bschirano@yahoo.com"=
shape=3Drect target=3D_blank>bschirano@yahoo.com</A>> wrote: <BR clear=
=3Dnone>>>> 2 Cents from a modest built GT6 racer (IE 10:1 CR, sto=
ck rods, crank, Good GP3 cam, etc). Russ's comments are dead on - bui=
lding the car is one expense, racing it is a recurring one and his estimate=
of $1000 per event is good. So build in margin of safety in the motor (and=
other components) where you can.<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> aluminum fly=
wheel and clutch & PP I went to Ted Shumaker, TSI - TS Imports<BR clear=
=3Dnone>>>> RE the rods - at the time of my first (only) rebuild a=
couple years ago I couldn't afford carrillos or Pauters, but did spend som=
e long green on nitriding and polishing the crank, balancing everything, an=
d of course the ARP hardware everywhere that counts . My car is NOT a high =
rev machine, I self limit at 6200 - 6300 RPM and it seems all the straights=
are uphill so she never redlines there anywise!<BR clear=3Dnone>>>&g=
t; So to me, it can be done, but has to be consistent with the rest of your=
build. my next build will be a higher CR and hotter cam, so will be upgrad=
ing rods, and pistons as well. But the first build was built conservative f=
or longevity.<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> Brian 26A GT6+, 28 TR6Brian Schi=
rano<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> 585-305-0349 Cell <BR clear=3Dnone>>&g=
t;> <A href=3D"mailto:BSchirano@yahoo.com"; shape=3Drect target=3D_blank>=
BSchirano@yahoo.com</A><BR clear=3Dnone>>>> From: Spi=
tfire Racing <<A href=3D"mailto:spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com"; shape=3Dre=
ct target=3D_blank>spitfire_racing@twcny.rr.com</A>><BR clear=3Dnone>>=
;>> To: 'Jamie' <<A href=3D"mailto:tr6driver@yahoo.com"; shape=3Dre=
ct target=3D_blank>tr6driver@yahoo.com</A>>; 'McKearn McKearn' <<A hr=
ef=3D"mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com"; shape=3Drect target=3D_blank>mckearn2@gmai=
l.com</A>> <BR clear=3Dnone>>>> Cc: 'FOT list' <<A href=3D"m=
ailto:fot@autox.team.net" shape=3Drect target=3D_blank>fot@autox.team.net</=
A>><BR clear=3Dnone>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 9, 2015 8:02 =
AM<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods<BR c=
lear=3Dnone>>>> <BR clear=3Dnone>>>> A properly built and=
modified race engine represents a mighty investment not<BR clear=3Dnone>&g=
t;>> only of dollars but of time. Is that really where you want to pi=
nch pennies?<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> After all, with the exception of =
pistons and crank that is one of the<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> primary c=
omponents and all it takes is one piece inside an engine to reduce<BR clear=
=3Dnone>>>> all your work and investment to nothing more than scra=
p metal. One seized<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> valve, or substandard bolt=
even can be a disaster. It doesn't take much.<BR clear=3Dnone>>>>=
Realize all the ancillary invested expenditures that are also at risk like=
a<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> weekend's entry fee you lose in an engine f=
ailure; the cost of time off from<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> work to go t=
o a race weekend; the cost of food and lodging for the race<BR clear=3Dnone=
>>>> outing and the cost of just getting there. When asked, I usua=
lly advise<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> folks to figure a race weekend is ~=
$1000 minimum when you roll all in.<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> <BR clear=
=3Dnone>>>> A number of racers have run Pauter rods as stated befo=
re by Bill and these<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> do present a less expensi=
ve alternative. I had the opportunity to rebuild an<BR clear=3Dnone>>>=
;> engine last year with Pauter rods and they were quite substantial and=
were<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> well designed, constructed and balanced.=
Personally I have seen far too many<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> Chinese k=
nock-offs; reproductions (call them what you will), that fail to<BR clear=
=3Dnone>>>> come close to the parts they try to mimic. <BR clear=
=3Dnone>>>> I suggest you perhaps delay your build until your war =
chest allows for top<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> quality internals. Do it =
once and do it right the first time and reduce the<BR clear=3Dnone>>>=
> potential for disappointing expensive disaster.<BR clear=3Dnone>>&g=
t;> <BR clear=3Dnone>>>> Russ Moore<BR clear=3Dnone>>>>=
; Spitfire #49<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> <BR clear=3Dnone>>>> -=
----Original Message-----<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> From: Fot [mailto:<A=
href=3D"mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net"; shape=3Drect target=3D_blank>fo=
t-bounces@autox.team.net</A>] On Behalf Of Jamie<BR clear=3Dnone>>>&g=
t; Sent: Wednesday, December 09, 2015 6:22 AM<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> =
To: McKearn McKearn<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> Cc: FOT list<BR clear=3Dno=
ne>>>> Subject: Re: [Fot] GT6 Connecting rods<BR clear=3Dnone>>=
>> <BR clear=3Dnone>>>> Although I was initially very wary, =
they have worked well for over 1,000<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> race mile=
s in our (horror) MGB engine.<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> <BR clear=3Dnone=
>>>> Jamie Palmer<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> <BR clear=3Dnone>&g=
t;>> <BR clear=3Dnone>>>>> On Dec 8, 2015, at 11:52 PM, M=
cKearn McKearn <<A href=3D"mailto:mckearn2@gmail.com"; shape=3Drect targe=
t=3D_blank>mckearn2@gmail.com</A>> wrote:<BR clear=3Dnone>>>>&g=
t; <BR clear=3Dnone>>>>> Hi Gents.<BR clear=3Dnone>>>>=
> I am looking for feedback on the MaxSpeeding connecting r=
ods for GT6.<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> Can't afford Carrillos and I'm ho=
ping these are good. Also am still<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> searching f=
or an aluminum flywheel without having something custom made. and<BR clear=
=3Dnone>>>> would like input on what type of clutch to use as well=
. Lets call it a race<BR clear=3Dnone>>>> car for the sake of arg=
ument....<BR clear=3Dnone>>>>>  =
; &nb=
sp; Thanks. P.J.<BR clear=3Dnone>>>>> ___________________=
____________________________<BR clear=3Dnone>>>>> <A href=3D"ma=
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