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Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil Stabilisator

To: "'MadMarx'" <tr4racing@googlemail.com>, "'AC'" <ac@camoletti.ch>, "''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'" <fot@autox.team.net>, <triumphs@autox.team.net>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil Stabilisator
From: "Peter Vucinic" <pvucinic@netspace.net.au>
Date: Sun, 13 Sep 2015 02:49:08 +1000
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Hi Chris,

Wow! I am really sorry to hear that! I feel your pain from here!

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The advice you received seems to break the cardinal rule of NEVER EVER =
mixing mineral and synthetic oils! They are two completely different =
bases of stock. I=E2=80=99m not surprised that you had mechanical =
issues.=20

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Foaming suggests that the combination of the two distinctly different =
bases were not mixing. That=E2=80=99s expected.=20

I would suggest that lubrication starvation, through oil emulsifying is =
most likely the culprit of your failure.

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Mmm=E2=80=A6 A very simple error in advice has had dire consequences! =
Very, very frustrating.

=20

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"You can Make a Small Fortune From Motor Racing. As long as You Started =
With A Lage Fortune!"

Kind Regards

Peter Vucinic

TR4 - TR7 V8 - Spitfire MkII

_______________________________________________

fot@autox.team.net

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From: Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On Behalf Of MadMarx
Sent: Saturday, 12 September 2015 6:02 PM
To: 'AC'; ''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'; triumphs@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil Stabilisator

=20

Hello Alex,

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I was told to use mineral Lucas with synthetic oil. And so I did.

This stuff is stiff like frozen honey.

=20

I suppose the lube went too stiff and the oil pump wasn=E2=80=99t able =
to force it through the system and opened the relive valve.

=20

Chris

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Von: AC [mailto:ac@camoletti.ch]=20
Gesendet: Samstag, 12. September 2015 09:19
An: ''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'; triumphs@autox.team.net; MadMarx
Betreff: Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil Stabilisator

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Hallo lieber Chris! Which Lucas stab did you use? There are two of them, =
mineral and synthetic.=20



---- MadMarx a =C3=A9crit ----

Hi Guys,

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by accident I found on my camera chip a video how I fill in two cans of =
Lucas Oil Stabilisator to 4 gallons of 10w60 oil of the IMSA TR8.

Listen to the difference.

The oil pressure dropped from 40 to 30 psi and never got over 40 psi on =
driving. Normally it is at 70 psi.

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The engine died after 8 laps with bearing failures on all crank bearings =
and a worn out camshaft.

This has happened in April.

My engine man was ill for half a year now, but it seems that =
he=E2=80=99s getting back to work next week and tries to repair the =
engine.

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 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1IVwEbOfkpc> =
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D1IVwEbOfkpc

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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
6'>Hi Chris,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
6'>Wow! I am really sorry to hear that! I feel your pain from =
here!<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
6'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
6'>The advice you received seems to break the cardinal rule of NEVER =
EVER mixing mineral and synthetic oils! They are two completely =
different bases of stock. I=E2=80=99m not surprised that you had =
mechanical issues. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
6'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
6'>Foaming suggests that the combination of the two distinctly different =
bases were not mixing. That=E2=80=99s expected. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
6'>I would suggest that lubrication starvation, through oil emulsifying =
is most likely the culprit of your failure.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
6'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
6'>Mmm=E2=80=A6 A very simple error in advice has had dire consequences! =
Very, very frustrating.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
6'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#7030A=
0'>&quot;You can Make a Small Fortune From Motor Racing. As long as You =
Started With A Lage Fortune!&quot;<o:p></o:p></span></b></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
6'>Kind Regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
style=3D'font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#99336=
6'>Peter Vucinic<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal><span =
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Fot [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] <b>On Behalf Of =
</b>MadMarx<br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, 12 September 2015 6:02 =
PM<br><b>To:</b> 'AC'; ''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'; =
triumphs@autox.team.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil =
Stabilisator<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Hello Alex,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I was told to use mineral Lucas with synthetic oil. And so I =
did.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>This stuff is stiff like frozen honey.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>I suppose the lube went too stiff and the oil pump wasn=E2=80=99t =
able to force it through the system and opened the relive =
valve.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Chris<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><div =
style=3D'border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm =
0cm 0cm'><p class=3DMsoNormal style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><b><span =
lang=3DDE =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>Von:</span><=
/b><span lang=3DDE =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> AC [<a =
href=3D"mailto:ac@camoletti.ch";>mailto:ac@camoletti.ch</a>] =
<br><b>Gesendet:</b> Samstag, 12. September 2015 09:19<br><b>An:</b> =
''Friends of Triumph' Triumph'; <a =
href=3D"mailto:triumphs@autox.team.net";>triumphs@autox.team.net</a>; =
MadMarx<br><b>Betreff:</b> Re: [Fot] Lucas Oil =
Stabilisator<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><span =
lang=3DDE><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></span></p><p =
style=3D'margin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=3DDE>Hallo lieber Chris! Which =
Lucas stab did you use? There are two of them, mineral and synthetic. =
<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:0cm;margin-right:0cm;margin-bottom:12.0pt;mar=
gin-left:36.0pt'><span lang=3DDE><br><br>---- MadMarx a =C3=A9crit =
----<o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:3=
6.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Hi Guys,</span><span lang=3DDE><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:3=
6.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span lang=3DDE><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:3=
6.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>by accident I found on my camera chip a video how I fill in two cans =
of Lucas Oil Stabilisator to 4 gallons of 10w60 oil of the IMSA =
TR8.</span><span lang=3DDE><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:3=
6.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>Listen to the difference.</span><span =
lang=3DDE><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:3=
6.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>The oil pressure dropped from 40 to 30 psi and never got over 40 psi =
on driving. Normally it is at 70 psi.</span><span =
lang=3DDE><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:3=
6.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>&nbsp;</span><span lang=3DDE><o:p></o:p></span></p><p =
class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:3=
6.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>The engine died after 8 laps with bearing failures on all crank =
bearings and a worn out camshaft.</span><span =
lang=3DDE><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:3=
6.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>This has happened in April.</span><span =
lang=3DDE><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:3=
6.0pt'><span =
style=3D'font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#1F497=
D'>My engine man was ill for half a year now, but it seems that =
he=E2=80=99s getting back to work next week and tries to repair the =
engine.</span><span lang=3DDE><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=3DMsoNormal =
style=3D'mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto;margin-left:3=
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