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Re: [Fot] Reg Compliance - Your Feedback

To: Barr Scott <sbarr@mccarty-law.com>, "jason@multivintage.com" <jason@multivintage.com>, <jhhasty@gdhs.com>
Subject: Re: [Fot] Reg Compliance - Your Feedback
From: Kas Kastner <kaskas@cox.net>
Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 18:34:49 +0000
Cc: fot <fot@autox.team.net>
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We of course were never allowed anything but the stock box with the alternate
ratios.  We did not have very much trouble with he box.  I think primarily
because all the parts in the car and from the parts department were new
FACTORY pieces. I think the clubs should allow  the five speed .  It is silly
to see people spend so much money and lost track time when ancient pieces.

Never be beaten by equipment
 > Subject: RE: [Fot] Reg Compliance - Your Feedback
> Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2012 06:43:53 -0500
> From: sbarr@McCarty-Law.com
> To: jason@multivintage.com; jhhasty@gdhs.com; kaskas@cox.net
> CC: fot@autox.team.net
>
> << Jason. Do you include 5 speed transmissions,  >>
>
> And, in the case of GT6s, yes I definitely include 5-speed
> transmissions.  One argument frequently made in the cause of originality
> and fairness is that the stock parts wouldn't have such failure problems
> if we didn't use cheater parts to build engines that produce far more
> horsepower than was available "back in the day".  However, even in my
> very mildly-tuned STREET GT6 Which I used to use for 5 or 6 track days a
> year, I went through three transmissions in two years.  I very quickly
> decided that a nice Toyota 5-speed conversion was a good idea, rules or
> no rules.  The ratios are very close to the same, including the 5th gear
> which is the same is the as the stock overdrive ratio.  Kas, I can't
> imagine how you kept the transmissions together back in the day.  Did
> you just rebuild them between every race?
>
> Scott B.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: fot-bounces@autox.team.net [mailto:fot-bounces@autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Jason Ostrowski
> Sent: Wednesday, October 10, 2012 10:56 PM
> To: John Hasty; Kas Kastner
> Cc: fot
> Subject: Re: [Fot] Reg Compliance - Your Feedback
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Hasty
> >
> >
> > "Jason. Do you include 5 speed transmissions, 4 piston calipers,
> > slotted & drilled discs, Weber carbs, 50 profile tires on 7 inch rims
> > as regulation violations not to worry about?  Safety, reliability type
>
> > transgressions are fine, but the other stuff is, in my opinion, beyond
> the sprit of the rules."
>
>
> John,
>
> No, that's perhaps why my car doesn't have any of that stuff. Key words,
> WITHIN REASON. You should know by now that I fully promote the use of
> Triumph parts and period correct parts. But I also wouldn't fault a guy
> for looking for a reasonable fix to 3 blown transmissions in a season.
> And quite frankly any organization that would require you to use sub-par
> equipment simply to adhere to a 40 year old formula of "Fairness" seems
> to be digging its own grave. Bud's point about being open with your
> sanctioning body is important here. I think different cars require
> different mods (even for vintage) and should be classed accordingly.
> Otherwise, you are essentially requiring wasting $.
> I think that certain case by case analysis of this issue is reasonable.
> Most importantly, I don't like my Triumph friends being beaten by cars
> with lots of brand new parts that are available "off the shelf" by
> certain German and Japanese brands. We need to be able to have at least
> a limited access to similar parts as cars we are racing against.  I'm
> not condoning any V8 drop-ins here, yet I wholeheartedly support our
> TRIUMPH FRIENDs that are developing various modern solutions to help
> with obvious difficulty in trying to race safely in a 40+ year old car.
>
> Jason Ostrowski
> Friendly Ghost Racing
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