Kas, I didn't know why until you explained it, but I agree completely. If
you see some uncharacteristic tire wear on front tires there's nothing good
going to happen from then on no matter where you put them on the car.
They're junk.
Triumphs are kind of forgiving in this sense, but you'll certainly see the
difference with a ruined tire in your lap times. I've gotten very sensitive
to the issue because on my Radical running on slicks the difference is HUGE.
You need to religiously pay attention to the tires, how they've been heating
and where the rubber is building up or wearing off. Slicks heat cycle to the
point of being useless except for holding a corner up long before they show
any discernable wear, but they're trash even sooner if you let something
funny happen to them.
I wouldn't rotate those toasted tires to the back. I'd toss them and get
some new ones and get the suspension set properly. What are you using for
camber, tire pressure and toe in/out?
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-fot@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-fot@autox.team.net] On Behalf
Of kas kastner
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 12:58 PM
To: Don Marshall; fot@autox.team.net
Subject: Re: Calling you tire/suspension experts
Might as well give an opinion. Probably okay to move the rear tires to
the front (never to the opposite side) but when the fronts are worn they are
DEAD. Don't move them anywhere but the dumpster. NEVER turn the tires inside
out. If you've never had weird handling before you will certainly have it
now if you do. The tread takes on a "feather". This is the blocks of
rubber moving under load by rolling away from the pavement. The inside of
the tread block wears when the tire is compressed and this leaves a
definite sharp edge you feel with your fingers as you stroke across the
tire. If you turn that tire inside out you have the high sharp edges
exposed to the brunt of the cornering and they will not take the weight,
thus you will feel just like on hard packed snow.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Don Marshall" <marshall@nefcom.net>
To: <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 9:18 AM
Subject: RE: Calling you tire/suspension experts
> Mine also wear that way. Someone suggested to me that once the wear on
> the inside got noticeable having them demounted and reversed on the
> wheel to put the less worn section to the inside. Other than the
> possibility of the tire changer cutting the bead, is there any reason
> not to do this? Don
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-fot@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-fot@autox.team.net] On
> Behalf Of Richard Taylor
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 11:08 AM
> To: BillDentin@aol.com; henry@henryfrye.com; fot@autox.team.net
> Subject: RE: Calling you tire/suspension experts
>
> Henry,
>
> My TR-4 Hoosiers look exactly the same as yours. I rotate them in a
> random
> pattern which uses the least worn one on the outside front corner and
> the
> most worn on the inside rear corner. Then I buy two new tires every
> other
> race. I figure it's kinda like rebuilding motors on a twin engined
> airplane
> or rotating clothes in and out of the laundry.
>
> You never want to do it all at once....unless you're rich or really into
> fun, safety and haberdashery. You know, like Joe Alexander
>
> Richard
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-fot@autox.team.net [mailto:owner-fot@autox.team.net] On
> Behalf
> Of BillDentin@aol.com
> Sent: Tuesday, April 13, 2004 9:33 AM
> To: henry@henryfrye.com; fot@autox.team.net
> Subject: Re: Calling you tire/suspension experts
>
> In a message dated 04/13/2004 6:05:13 AM Central Daylight Time,
> henry@henryfrye.com writes:
>
>
> > I have been seeing tire wear on my TR4 vintage racer that indicates to
> me
> I
> >
> > can improve something in the front end setup, but I can't figure out
> what
> > to do. Take a look at these pictures:
> >
> > http://www.henryfrye.com/tires/
> >
> > Any comments, observations, words of wisdom? It would be nice to get
> more
> > that two weekends on a set of tires.
> >
>
> Henry:
>
> It's clear to me that you're going WAY TOO FAST. Those tyres can't take
> that
> kind of stress. You've got to ease up.
>
> Bill
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