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RE: Calling you tire/suspension experts

To: "'Henry Frye'" <henry@henryfrye.com>
Subject: RE: Calling you tire/suspension experts
From: "Mike Munson" <fasttrs@mindspring.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Apr 2004 12:20:57 -0400
Henry,

This looks like a toe in / out problem. If you lowered the car and
changed the geometry on the upper a-arm then you need to check your bump
steer. It will affect the toe at different suspension heights. For
instance I noticed in pictures of my 6, powering out of turns, it looked
like I had too much toe out. I had the bump steer checked and corrected
and the problem of the strange tire wear almost went away. BTW I have
the same kind of sway bars front and rear and my car still rolls
somewhat. 

Mike Munson
Snellville, Ga.
   

-----Original Message---
Subject: Re: Calling you tire/suspension experts

Now I am wondering if the car will be OK riding in the trailer on those 
tires!  ;-)

Wondering even harder how our fearful leader Joe survives running
his.... 
ahem, tire program!    <bigger grin>

The quantity and quality of the replies I have received has been 
outstanding. I appreciate everyone's responses. The consensus of
everyone's 
opinion is I have been running overinflated and with too much camber for
my 
setup. Here's what I run.

The front end is lowered with a pair of those great Triumph Competition 
Dept. springs. You can tell them from stock because the coils run 
counterclockwise going down, opposite the stock springs. Massive sway
bar, 
perhaps too big. Negative camber is achieved by using shortened upper 
A-arms, supplied by uncle jack's racing service. With my car sitting in
a 
line of TR4's at races, comparing the front camber to other TR4's, mine 
looks to have less camber than others. Michael Porter I think may have
put 
his finger on the crux of the issue, my big front sway bar is keeping
the 
car from rolling in corners, so I don't need as much negative camber
dialed 
in. I wish this was an easy adjustment on a TR4. Would make life so much

easier...

I have been running cold tire pressures at 24 front and 23 rear. I have 
experimented with lower, and didn't think it felt right. Looks like I
will 
be doing more experimenting this week. The Frye Racing Program has not 
started the tire temp thing, so I have no idea what the tire temps are. 
Looks like another gadget for the trailer is needed.

I have the tow set to about 1/8th in. My plan is to buy another set of 
tires and set the toe to Zero before they see the track.

Thanks again, one and all.

At 12:58 PM 04/13/2004 -0700, kas kastner wrote:
>Might as well give an opinion........  Don't move them anywhere but the

>dumpster.

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