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Re: Learning to Drive

To: "kas kastner" <kaskas@cox.net>, "Ted Schumacher"
Subject: Re: Learning to Drive
From: "tom strange" <tstrange@new.rr.com>
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 07:52:00 -0600
NOW WAIT A MINUTE KAS.....
  I thoroughly enjoy corner working.... & I dont consider myself cra a
z.................

  Okay........ so I am crazy.........
Tom
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "kas kastner" <kaskas@cox.net>
To: "Ted Schumacher" <tedtsimx@bright.net>; "tom strange"
<tstrange@new.rr.com>
Cc: "Dave Riddle" <dave@microworks.net>; <fot@autox.team.net>
Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 10:49 AM
Subject: Re: Learning to Drive


> Back in the old Cal Club days (50'sand early 60's) drivers that were a
> problem were brought up before the contest board and if found wanting in
> attitude or ability were sentenced to a weekend of working a corner with
the
> flagmen.  Boy is that a REVELATION.and SCARY. Those people are crazy.
> Drivers are only nuts.
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Ted Schumacher" <tedtsimx@bright.net>
> To: "tom strange" <tstrange@new.rr.com>
> Cc: "Dave Riddle" <dave@microworks.net>; <fot@autox.team.net>
> Sent: Saturday, November 08, 2003 6:44 AM
> Subject: Re: Learning to Drive
>
>
> > Excellent point.  Whenever I instruct, my studnets have to go work a
> > corner for an entire session.  Gives a "whole new meaning to life" for
> > them.  Ted
> >
> > tom strange wrote:
> >
> > >One more note I dont see here (now that my computers running again....)
> > >  Corners you have trouble with... go out and corner work at them.  Its
> > >amazing what you can see people doing from a corner workers point of
> view.
> > >Sometimes it takes a lot of the mystery out of a corner.
> > >
> > >Tom
> > >----- Original Message ----- 
> > >From: "Dave Riddle" <dave@microworks.net>
> > >To: <fot@autox.team.net>
> > >Sent: Friday, November 07, 2003 11:40 PM
> > >Subject: RE: Learning to Drive
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>At 09:47 PM 11/7/2003, Bill Babcock wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>Oh, one more thing, a late apex is safer, a slightly earlier one is
> > >>>generally faster if you're putting the car close to the limit.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>That's funny and convey's what I always tell students that show an
> > >>appititude (those without ability I don't waste the time telling) "you
> > >>
> > >>
> > >want
> > >
> > >
> > >>to late apex as early as you can".  It is hard to describe and even
> harder
> > >>to do but the first time you actually "do it" it is like a little
light
> > >>goes off.  Sometimes it is really only a way of visualizing a corner
and
> > >>how you want to drive through it (notice I did not say around it).
> > >>
> > >>For example: If you ever drive the road course at Phoenix
International
> > >>(which I don't really like myself - it is boring) you will be told
that
> T2
> > >>is a late apex corner, and it is. You need to go so deep into the
corner
> > >>that you think you have driven right past it and could never get the
car
> > >>rotated.  Going into that corner I am looking so far through it and at
> T3
> > >>that I can imagine seeing a "channel" magically appear as the curbing
of
> > >>
> > >>
> > >T2
> > >
> > >
> > >>on drivers left falls away to reveal the second bit of curbing of T3
on
> > >>drivers right (I completely look past the first bit of the curbing of
> > >>T3).  I have walked the track and from no vantage point does it really
> > >>"look" like that, but in my minds eye I can visualize that it does
exist
> > >>and I feel like Moses parting the Red Sea. This lets me bring the
power
> on
> > >>earlier than other guys can and like Bill mentions I feel I can
"hustle"
> > >>the car though the corner faster.
> > >>
> > >>I tried to help a fairly new Spec Racer Ford guy look at that corner
> that
> > >>way and he could only see it with his eyes not with his brain.  He
came
> > >>back in and said "I thought you said the corner opens up".  It does,
but
> > >>you have to have the ability to imagine and view the geometry of how
the
> > >>corners work together to "get it".
> > >>
> > >>So my advice would be to look at the track and it's corners as a whole
> to
> > >>see how they work and then find the lines that tie the track
> > >>together.  Those lines are often times very different than what the
> > >>"obvious" layout of the track is.  Another saying I use with students
is
> > >>
> > >>
> > >to
> > >
> > >
> > >>"drive the line not the track".
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> > -- 
> > Ted Schumacher
> > tedtsimx@bright.net
> > http://www.tsimportedautomotive.com
> > 108 S. Jefferson St.
> > Pandora, Ohio, USA 45877
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